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Spector Club - Part 10

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jarrhead said:
That sucks man. As for what work i've done... well I'm fifteen. I've never had a job. I've always wanted to join the service, that's why I mentioned it.

I've done very very little excercise in the past 10 months besides bass -- I went running ONCE, I cleaned up after the tornado slammed my neighborhood on April 16, and I walk home from school (with no backpack or books. Just a cheap RCA mp3 player.) Been swimming once casually, no laps.

No skateboard,snowboard or skiing accidents?
Thought your avatar pic was young but thought maybe18-22.
 
Tracebassplayer said:
OK, I see a RED Ian Hill Signature model on ebay.
I only see gloss black available on Spectorbass.com ...

what's up? Refinished or ???? It does have the Ian Hill signature on the back by the neck...:confused:

If you read his description at the very bottom it says "Gloss Black". Which is it red like pics or black as discription???
 
I think they were very high 2K to low 3K. If you visit the store, it is slighly bigger then someone's living room with hundreds of guitars and basses. You can barely walk when you get in the store,:eek: but it is like being a 5 year old in Toys R Us. :hyper: You will leave with a very bad GAS attack for sure.:help:

Oh, I have been there but I need to stay away since I tend to want to buy half the store when going there. They are the only place that seems to have all the great gear to be able to try out and they are very cool about letting you do so.

Hmm, maybe I will try and see how much they will give me for my Corvette $$ to apply to another Spector :bassist:
 
Ok after looking at that NS-2 Brooklyn era i have to ask the question. I'm GASing for one badly now! Do i....

A - try to find an 80's model like this at a reasonable price and get it. or...

B - save up and get a new NS-2

I'm going to call that New Jersey Guitar and Bass just because i am curious on the price, but i wanted to see what everyone here thought about getting an old verses getting a new NS-2?
 
PhatBasstard said:
1991? It says "Late Kramer era". Didn't they go belly up in '90?! That would be extemely late. :p

Both those basses belonged to a very good friend of mine. The Brooklyn bass is an amazing player. Super thin neck and very loud. The Blue '91, from what he was told by PJ, was one of the last basses made at the Kramer factory. If my memory serves me correctly, he bought it directly from the factory during it's final days. It was his favorite bass until he got a late Brooklyn era that is one # away from Todd Cookes red Brooklyn. That one was also killer.
 
OK, I see a RED Ian Hill Signature model on ebay.
I only see gloss black available on Spectorbass.com ...

what's up? Refinished or ???? It does have the Ian Hill signature on the back by the neck...:confused:

You can special order Ian Hill and Doug Wimbish models from the Czech factory in any of the available colors/finishes.

The lefty Euro4LX-Classic PJ and I presented to Brad Savage (Band from TV) is a Zebra-Wood/Gloss finish model with a hybrid Ian Hill/Doug Wimbish neck... the thinnest/skinniest neck you'll ever get on a SPECTOR.

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Left to Right: PJ Rubal, Brad Savage, Me
 
Ok after looking at that NS-2 Brooklyn era i have to ask the question. I'm GASing for one badly now! Do i....

A - try to find an 80's model like this at a reasonable price and get it. or...

B - save up and get a new NS-2

I'm going to call that New Jersey Guitar and Bass just because i am curious on the price, but i wanted to see what everyone here thought about getting an old verses getting a new NS-2?

There are two big questions...
Is price an issue? You can usually get a decent shape Brooklyn NS-2 for between $3K and $3.5K
A new NS-2 is going to be $4K+ depending on the dealer. Bass Central has a couple for under $5K (which is list).

Second... are you planning on gigging/touring with this bass?

So answers: if the extra money isn't an issue... Order a new one. You're talking about a guitar with new electronics, new everything and a lifetime warranty. The older Brooklyn models are really more collector guitars now. The electronics in them are 20+ years old and who knows how the guitar has really been treated.

Which leads me to the second question. If you are a pro-musician and this guitar is going to be used as a touring bass, or anything you have to depend on in a live setting. Get the newer bass. Again, what if the Brooklyn model's truss rod is close to being stripped... and you find this out one day 30 minutes before a show. Not good.

Now... the flip side... If you want an historic, first generation collectable NS-2... if you plan on playing it at home or in the studio... where you can have backup guitars ready or it's not something you have to have perfect and working flawless... if you're OK with the fact that if anything goes wrong with it there is no warranty... parts may be hard if not impossible to buy. The Leo Quan bridge on that model is out of production, the die to make new ones was destroyed and so if the bridge gives out, you have to try and find one on Ebay...
The Brooklyn models didn't have neck-reinforcements. So there is more of a chance that you can have neck issues.

The Brooklyn models are great. But I recently gave up on my dream of owning one because I really want to PLAY my SPECTORs. And something like that I'd want to be careful with... treat delicately... I'd be afraid to really play it hard.

So I've ordered new NS-2 models... and I'll be comfortable playing them.

Not trying to discourage you... but you can order a NEW NS-2 and know it'll be right out of the box... first time playing it. Or you can buy a 26 year-old bass that honestly you can never know what (if any) issues it may have the first time you pick it up.

Just my $0.02

And basically because I asked myself these same questions back in Feb before ordering my new NS-2.
 
JPSBassist said:
There are two big questions...
Is price an issue? You can usually get a decent shape Brooklyn NS-2 for between $3K and $3.5K
A new NS-2 is going to be $4K+ depending on the dealer. Bass Central has a couple for under $5K (which is list).

Second... are you planning on gigging/touring with this bass?

So answers: if the extra money isn't an issue... Order a new one. You're talking about a guitar with new electronics, new everything and a lifetime warranty. The older Brooklyn models are really more collector guitars now. The electronics in them are 20+ years old and who knows how the guitar has really been treated.

Which leads me to the second question. If you are a pro-musician and this guitar is going to be used as a touring bass, or anything you have to depend on in a live setting. Get the newer bass. Again, what if the Brooklyn model's truss rod is close to being stripped... and you find this out one day 30 minutes before a show. Not good.

Now... the flip side... If you want an historic, first generation collectable NS-2... if you plan on playing it at home or in the studio... where you can have backup guitars ready or it's not something you have to have perfect and working flawless... if you're OK with the fact that if anything goes wrong with it there is no warranty... parts may be hard if not impossible to buy. The Leo Quan bridge on that model is out of production, the die to make new ones was destroyed and so if the bridge gives out, you have to try and find one on Ebay...
The Brooklyn models didn't have neck-reinforcements. So there is more of a chance that you can have neck issues.

The Brooklyn models are great. But I recently gave up on my dream of owning one because I really want to PLAY my SPECTORs. And something like that I'd want to be careful with... treat delicately... I'd be afraid to really play it hard.

So I've ordered new NS-2 models... and I'll be comfortable playing them.

Not trying to discourage you... but you can order a NEW NS-2 and know it'll be right out of the box... first time playing it. Or you can buy a 26 year-old bass that honestly you can never know what (if any) issues it may have the first time you pick it up.

Just my $0.02

And basically because I asked myself these same questions back in Feb before ordering my new NS-2.

+1 Now that's great advice!!! :bassist:
 
You can special order Ian Hill and Doug Wimbish models from the Czech factory in any of the available colors/finishes.

The lefty Euro4LX-Classic PJ and I presented to Brad Savage (Band from TV) is a Zebra-Wood/Gloss finish model with a hybrid Ian Hill/Doug Wimbish neck... the thinnest/skinniest neck you'll ever get on a SPECTOR.

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Left to Right: PJ Rubal, Brad Savage, Me

I knew the name Brad Savage sounded familiar! He was in Red Dawn and a bunch of those Disney movies when I was a kid. I didn't know he played bass.
 
First of all...I'm envious of your move! I've thought about moving out there dozens of times! I was stationed at Cannon AFB 4 yrs. Visited Albuquerque a few times...love it!
Secondly...I'm so very sorry about your back/neck/shoulder problems! I feel your pain bro!!! I had the same issues start in Nov. 2010! Except carpal tunnel...dealt with bi-lateral carpal in 2000. Operation...all's well! But in Nov. I was having muscle cramps/knots in my left & right scapula and the extended into my left & right trapeze muscles. After trying to fix myself and also seeing a chiropractor and masseuse until Feb. I finally went to my Dr. Found out that I had a torn shoulder Labrum, upper Bicep, rotator cuff and bursitis. The muscle cramps were just a side effect of the tares. So I started playing my Spector bass sitting on my lap...did PT 2 weeks which made it all worse...had left shoulder surgery May 25th. Dr. said this was work repetitive related. My job requires me for last 8.5 yrs. to lift suit cases that weigh up to 90#s throughout the day. My bass wasn't the culprit as what was rolling in my mind too. What do you do in the service or what kind of work have you done in the past that was repetitive? After surgery my surgeon told me that over 20% of my shoulder joint has deteriorated. No torn muscles after all. I see him today and I do have questions!
Any ways, try sitting bass on your lap to play and take all tension off your shoulder strap. You'll be surprised at how quickly the body will heal.
Good luck & God bless you!
Sorry guys if we went off thread! :hiding:
My apologize. :D
Icebox i hope you have a speedy recovery!!
 
Iceboxbass...

I am sorry to hear of your physical injuries. I have been partially there, too. I hope you get well, soon....
I have a "Cumulative Injury" from "repetitive motion under force" causing an impingement and bursitis in right shoulder, arthroscopic surgery, Workman's comp fights (I am about ready to show up in his office - unannounced - with a small box)....

On a brighter note...
The part you sent me brought the strings in perfectly to match the new neck width (or skinniness, rather). It's a tad bit too high though, I think. 3/32 at the 1st fret on the E string.... which makes it like 4 or 5/32 at the 2nd fret :eek:
 
Tracebassplayer said:
Iceboxbass...

I am sorry to hear of your physical injuries. I have been partially there, too. I hope you get well, soon....
I have a "Cumulative Injury" from "repetitive motion under force" causing an impingement and bursitis in right shoulder, arthroscopic surgery, Workman's comp fights (I am about ready to show up in his office - unannounced - with a small box)....

On a brighter note...
The part you sent me brought the strings in perfectly to match the new neck width (or skinniness, rather). It's a tad bit too high though, I think. 3/32 at the 1st fret on the E string.... which makes it like 4 or 5/32 at the 2nd fret :eek:

Oh bummer on the bass guitar nut...and your right shoulder!!! :rollno: well atleast you have a bases now for ordering a new string nut.
Hey thanks on the speedy recovery! I'm doing the OWCP deal too...I just hope that I get a paycheck on time! :eyebrow:
 
Oh bummer on the bass guitar nut...and your right shoulder!!! How did the string spacing work out though?
Hey thanks on the speedy recovery! I'm doing the OWCP deal too...I just hope that I get a paycheck on time! :eyebrow:
String spacing appears to be just about right on. With the action so high, I can't really tell yet if the string will still slip off but, I don't think it will.
I may have to slowly file this one down to match my brass nut's height - :eyebrow: don't go there... until I get the action where it should be.
 
Tracebassplayer said:
String spacing appears to be just about right on. With the action so high, I can't really tell yet if the string will still slip off but, I don't think it will.
I may have to slowly file this one down to match my brass nut's height - :eyebrow: don't go there... until I get the action where it should be.

Can't sleep either huh? Dang shoulder! :rollno:
Well that's cool about string spacing!
I'm contemplating going fretless...might buy an inexpensive fretless Spector off GC and try it. :D There's one on there now but a little more $$$ than I want to fork out. :rollno:
 
Can't sleep either huh? Dang shoulder! :rollno:
Well that's cool about string spacing!
I'm contemplating going fretless...might buy an inexpensive fretless Spector off GC and try it. :D There's one on there now but a little more $$$ than I want to fork out. :rollno:
I'm a late nighter....:cool:
I tried fretless.. not one of my favorite sounds... Although the "fretless" sound effect on my BP200 makes "TAPS" in harmonics sound pretty cool.
 
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