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Stingray Classic Returns

Well... strings are fairly cheap (except TIs). Pick your poison and slap 'em on there. I rarely buy a bass that I don't immediately change the strings on. Even if they are string brands I like, they are often deader than doornails. I've always wondered if they put "factory second" strings on new basses. They nearly always manage to suck. Of course, if the new bass has been hanging in a music store... forget it. Automatic string change time.

I would hope a Company of EB Status would not put reject strings on 2500+ Basses for Players to try, Demo', purchase Etc.

On my 'Special' OEM Slinkys sound great still after 2 1/2 months as did the ones on my EBMM 25th Anniversary[AKA Reflex] back a while

Even on my 2019 Fender Ultra P the OEM 7250's were fine and sounded excellent

But my guess is most buyers will swiftly replace Slinky Rounds with their favorite Flats
 
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Part of me really wants to go for the natural. That’s my favorite look for a Ray, and a 2-band IS unique enough to “justify.”
Natural is awesome on a Stingray. I love my Classic.
 
Ahhh, the wonderful 3 bolt neck with micro neck tilt.......(cough!)........and the wonderful bullet truss rod adjust.........(cough!).

What else does it have? The battery that stays on all of the time? And the 2 band eq with the no flat response indentation notches?

I wonder if these also come in the weight range of the originals? A friend of mine in Australia has an old original Stingray and it weighs just under 15 lbs.

Sorry for my negative post. But aren't we all getting tired of "re-fried bass guitars" with rich man's list prices?

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$3,200 seems a lot for something that reincarnates a number of the original design flaws and outdated features that have been consigned to the 'fixed' list over the years:
  • Original bridge geometry where the strings have to bend past the intonation screws;
  • Bullet truss adjustment;
  • 3-bolt neck joint;
  • 7.5" fingerboard radius.
Maybe these are features I have a personal dislike for, but IME they are all objectively inferior to later incarnations of the StingRay, up to and including the Special. I will concede it is nice to see the 2-band back on the cards but that is a more subjective preference - there is nothing objectively 'better' or 'worse' over the 3-band or the revoiced 'Special'. It is also nice to see the compensated nut being dropped, but again that is a personal preference.

But with all that said, is it my eyes or does the control plate here look out of alignment. I don't remember any StingRay model where the curves of the plate and body don't conform to each other:
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I'd like to think it is part of the website 'mockup', but it also looks that way in these captures from the promo video. Maybe these are also CGI but I find it hard to believe such an obvious thing would get past any technical review. If this is an actual instrument, at $3,200 it is inexcusable, IMHO:
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If I end up with a 4 string Ray again, I could see it being one of these. However, I agree with many of the comments I quoted here. The changes Ernie Ball has made over time are all improvements, not just changes.

The bridge has been improved with each iteration. The flatter radius of the fingerboard is arguably better. The wheel truss rod replaced the bullet truss rod, and I don't understand why there are new instruments still requiring allen wrenches for truss adjustments. The new pickups and preamp help keep up with the concept of a "modern" tone while keeping the spirit of "that Stingray sound." Even the body contours of the Specials are better. I do think the three bolt/microtilt neck gets a bad rap because Fender's implementation of it was poor. But, it is also unnecessary, and 6 bolts is better.

I have to admit, it would be nice if they offered the Specials with a "76 Option" that put the original pickups and pre in the more refined instrument.
 
A ‘lineup’ photo on the MM site shows four basses that have the plate aligned differently. The white one is especially off. Not great…!

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But my guess is most buyers will swiftly replace Slinky Rounds with their favorite Flats

It’s interesting that in 1978, Musicman stopped shipping Stingrays with flats, moving to GHS rounds. My new Stingray in 1980 came with rounds - that really was the sound of a Stingray as far as I was concerned - I’m pretty sure Louis Johnson didn’t use flatwounds!! I’m pretty sure Bernard Edwards did have flats on his in the late 70s (based on the sound and also that it was a 1977 bass).

I think a lot of people will want the roundwound sound - I’ve got flats on my Stingray Classic and fretlesses (those are for reasons of not wanting to damage the fretboards overly).

If I get one it will be a natural, and will retain the roundwounds!!
 
I'd would hope thinner, if they recreated the neck shape like the originals.

Chatted with EB customer service and was informed 0.812” at the first fret and 0.960” at the twelfth. Thinner at the first and thicker at the twelfth than a Classic (mine measures close to the 0.830” / 0.930” of a regular Stingray).
 
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I have to admit, it would be nice if they offered the Specials with a "76 Option" that put the original pickups and pre in the more refined instrument.

They 'sorta/kinda' tried that with the Classic and many here on TB seemed to like it but alas not enough

Read a post on EB Bass Forum where EB Rep said Specials/3 band pre Specials out sold Classic's 10-1; He also said that the Classic may return but not as it was; this was maybe a couple years ago so here we are.
 
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I'm not thrilled about that 3-bolt neck plate. I'm all for a "retro" sting ray, but why not include some subtle improvements from lessons learned through the years (i.e. compensated nut, better neck plate, maybe even contoured body)? None of those things would really take away from the look and would certainly make for a more comfortable and stable instrument. not trying to be a downer, but at that price point I just want at least some semblance of quality of life features. just my .02
 
I'm not thrilled about that 3-bolt neck plate. I'm all for a "retro" sting ray, but why not include some subtle improvements from lessons learned through the years (i.e. compensated nut, better neck plate, maybe even contoured body)? None of those things would really take away from the look and would certainly make for a more comfortable and stable instrument. not trying to be a downer, but at that price point I just want at least some semblance of quality of life features. just my .02

I’ve got nothing against a “true” recreation of the original, but I agree that I would love a “modern retro” option that had the sculpted heel, compensated nut, body contours, easy access battery, and truss rod wheel. Keep the 2-band, muted bridge, retro script, “missing” fretboard dot(s), etc…
 
Because you can still go buy the current 'regular' model with all those features.

I think most people are talking about a Classic 2 band ray with those kinds of options. I loved my classic 5 but couldn't deal with the slab body. If you want the classic sound and look but with modern options and comfort no we can't go buy that unfortunately, especially us 5 string players.
 
They 'sorta/kinda' tried that with the Classic and many here on TB seemed to like it but alas not enough

Read a post on EB Bass Forum where EB Rep said Specials/3 band pre Specials out sold Classic's 10-1; He also said that the Classic may return but not as it was; this was maybe a couple years ago so here we are.
I’m sure that’s true, and exactly in line with my post. I suspect the Retro will get outsold 10:1 as well. But if you can sell 11 basses instead of 10, maybe make the 11th bass cheaper to produce by just making it a Retro 2-band Special where only the electronics package (and maybe color choice) is different.
 
I’m sure that’s true, and exactly in line with my post. I suspect the Retro will get outsold 10:1 as well. But if you can sell 11 basses instead of 10, maybe make the 11th bass cheaper to produce by just making it a Retro 2-band Special where only the electronics package (and maybe color choice) is different.
A 2 band Special would be killer. Especially if it’s at the same price as the 3 band Special. A 2 band HH would be awesome as well.
 
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