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Stoner / Doom Bassist Thread - Part 18

#65
askrere said:
As for the recording, I know a band I've been listening to came here (Austin) and recorded their album direct live in a room covered in mic's in just a few takes (they are a 5 piece).
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Anecdotal, I remember reading that Bob Marley and the Wailers insisted on recording this way, because they wanted each instrument's track to include the ghost sounds of the other instruments. Then as they recorded takes, they'd do each one slightly different, until it "felt" right and then they just mastered it. Sounds basic and stupid based on our music technology/recording standards today but the theory behind their technique is applicable to our genre, and they smoked alot of weed too.

Kawai-chang said:
I say set up, turn on, and let'er rip. Full band, full steam ahead. Then sell it as a "Live from Treelady Studios" CD.
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That would require a live studio audience, I hereby volunteer.

Lazarus.Bird said:
Here is their website: http://www.treelady.com/
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Wiz Kalifa recorded there, you should sample in some of his rhymes during solos or something. I'm sure he won't mind, Pburgh spirit and all.
 
#71
the true Winged C stuff costs more than others.

A Matched Sextet of 6550s would cost me 232.50 + ship

A Matched Sexet of JJ 6550s would cost me 184.20 + ship

I wont list the other brands for now but I dont know if you will see performance improvement from the extra dough
 
#72
Toastfuzz said:
If you're trying to record on the cheap, say just to get some demos out onto the internet, you outta try tapping the pool of engineers you got at CMU. I remember at PSU I'd see ads posted around the engineering building by audio engineers looking for guinea pigs.

May not be ub3r-pro, but I bet a student would have more equipment/knowledge than us hobbiests, and far cheaper than a professional studio. The guys who did it at PSU would use the school's equipment and sound rooms.
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+1. I can't recommend this enough. Plenty of sound engineering students need people for their various recording projects. Sometimes it's free, sometimes, you pay for the room, sometimes the student wants a little something besides the grade. Work that out beforehand. Otherwise, my old punk/ska band recorded our demo at USF's campus. We did all the guitars live through the board while the drummer came through headphones. Drummer was in isolation room. He played while we tracked guits. Then we played that recording for drummer and we tracked the drums. Then the drum/guit track was played for vox. It took us 12 hours to record 10 songs (about 30 minutes of actual music). This seemed like forever, but it worked and we used that demo to get onto a compilation CD. It can be done, but I would say it's not realistic for this type of music. It worked in my punk band because most of our songs were 3 minutes and less. We also had played together almost everyday as I was in highschool still, so the band was real tight. Bottom line, go in tuned, ready, and be quick as you can. You can't change how long it takes to play the song, but you can control how ready you are as a band. If you want a professional recording with all the bells and whistles, you'll need a few days of "lock-out".
 
#73
Laz,

You could always get the guy who did the Billows EP. He'll do it in a weekend for a reasonable price. He's still setting up shop so he keeps getting better as he gets more gear/clients. It's a hobby for him not a career so he has a real passion for it. Plus he'll make you record live (which was great for Billows).

He played guitar in Hurl which come from your way during the Math Rock scene.

I can also recommend the guy who did the Asthma Castle EP. He has a house/studio in York, PA that you can stay at while you record.

Then you can use the $500 giftcard for final mixing and mastering.
 
#74
mlove said:
i blink and 17 is over + 4 pages into 18.
You guys are nuts.

I am in the market for re tubing my svt in the near future. A lot of people are telling me to go with winged C's for power tubes. Thoughts?
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I've tried so many different tubes, and honestly at the volumes we play at you will not hear much if any difference between different brands. You just need something robust enough to handle the SVTs screen and plate voltages. From my research the EH KT88 can handle the most voltage. I have EH6550 and they seem to be fine. Before that I had Sovtek KT88s and they lasted about 5 years.

edit: i do hear a bigger difference between tubes in guitar amps though. But that's because its easier to hear all the details in guitar tones compared to bass tones.
 
#75
if I was going into anything I would always prefer 88s over 6550s due to better max grid leak resistance and better screen and plate ratings but if your amp cant handle the size it then its not the best idea. I actually get 88s cheaper than 6550s.
 
#78
Well putting in a quad of Kt88s into an amp with a quad of 34s is okay from the primary impedance and heater current requirements but you will not have enough secondary current and OT bandwidth to get a lot of extra power out of the amp. since the PT is not specced to deliver a proper amount of secondary HVAC current into the amp it will not be able to handle proper 70% biasing of the KT88s without overheating it and dropping down the plate voltage a lot. Secondarly, you will not be able to really get a ton of extra power out of that OT without shrinking the bandwidth down a ton, which will chop your low end power a bit. 6550s are a better choice if you ask me
 

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