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Stoner / Doom Bassist Thread - Part 18

#982
Sunnburn said:
I've never played a Swr, but the few times I've seen local bands with them, I have really disliked the tone. It could totally be how they eq'ed them. To each, their own.
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They're fantastic amps but far too clean for me.


twhitedc said:
BUT LOA!

Blender, I'm kind of floored, but I guess not everyone's adolescence was sound tracked by River Runs Red and there are A LOT of bands I've never heard of so I understand. To be honest I never knew or cared who was playing bass

Seriously download that album and listen to it straight through, don't be too put off by Keith Caputo's vocals great album, then the band signed to roadrunner and put out some watered down pop-metal poop... I think I saw them in 1998, but it was after the second album...
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I absolutely love Life of Agony. One of my favorites.


Lazarus.Bird said:
What do you guys think about recording with a click vs without? We never used one before and we've got our recording date set, so wondering if we should try it at practice.
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I highly recommend it. Your drummer doesn't need to absolutely marry himself to it. Feels can come and go. But as long as that steady beat is there the tempo will be perfect. Also, it opens up all kinds of options for different recording techniques. I know this is a pretty stripped-down genre in general, but all the same - making sure tempos are locked in is extremely important.

My philosophy on recording is likely different though: I want it perfect. Absolutely, positively perfect. If that requires endless overdubs to get it right then so be it. The trick is to live up to the recording when you play live. ;)

eyeballkid said:
it can be your salvation or damnation. If you need a little something to make sure tempos stay consistent for the recording they can be quite helpful to some, but for some guys it can REALLY kill their "feel" in a song and make em sound kinda stiff. To record well without it you need to be SOLID as a band with good timing. There is nothing wrong with an eight minute song speeding up or down 10 beats a minute over its length if its right for the feel. Listen to alot of Zeppelin and it happens all the time to good effect. But if a certain part cant reliably be played at a constant tempo its a good idea. Ive never used one with any band for recording, but we were a really jivin live bands that could go and nail songs in the studio in one or two takes and would sometimes do additional takes for fun to see if we got a cut with a different feel.
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A lot of those Zeppelin tempo "issues" were, according to every teacher I had back in recording school, very often tape reel warble during overdubs and mixing and whatnot. I know Bonham played fast and loose with tempos but when the song itself goes up and down in pitch along with the tempo you know it isn't a drummer's timing. Obviously that was resolved in later remasters; I'm speaking more of original recordings.
 
#983
Thanks for the feedback on click tracks guys. I know we goof around a lot here but you guys are an invaluable source for instant knowledge and opinion.

Pretty successful work trip to VA so far. Got to hang out with OldCrow, play with some awesome gear, and just got back to the hotel after hanging with beebassdude! I guess I should clarify that I didn't bring him back to the hotel with me.

Eyeball we gotta hang again soon. I'll have to see what the rescheduled Om dates look like.
 
#984
Niff said:
I was at about 3 o'clock master with the gain down as low as possible and it wasn't at its 'peak volume' as a big loud clean amp like I wanted it to be - the only way to get it as loud as I wanted was to make break up using the gain knob. I was using a rick 4001 (stock, passive) straight in.

That could be my ears and relative inexperience, though - it could have been exactly the same volume in terms of db between low gain/high gain but just 'seemed' much louder to my ears. I was using an Orange OBC410 with horn on.
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Add more speakers. I run mine with the volume at about 3-3 1/2 and the gain around 4-5. That's the marker positions not click positions. I've also swapped out the driver tube for a 12AX7 to push the power tubes more. I don't run a clean tone though I always have a pedal on. You usually can't even hear me if I don't have a pedal on.
 
#986
demon666 said:
Add more speakers. I run mine with the volume at about 3-3 1/2 and the gain around 4-5. That's the marker positions not click positions. I've also swapped out the driver tube for a 12AX7 to push the power tubes more. I don't run a clean tone though I always have a pedal on. You usually can't even hear me if I don't have a pedal on.
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I figured that may have been the case!

My girlfriend is going to kill me in my sleep if I add more cabinets.
 
#989
Niff said:
super super early, even with KT88s and the gain down as much as possible. I for one want a big loud clean amp at high volumes first, then dirty it up/boost it with my boxes. does good dirty rock tones, tho.

hey Corey Y, for some reason I remember seeing you in another bassists thread - you said that you like treble boosters on bass as an overdrive type thing. what do you recommend?
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Not treble boosters specifically, at least not live, but I do like overdrives and boosts to push the signal hard when playing with a pick. The DOD 250 is my favorite, but I've also used a tubescreamer and a SHO. I haven't tried it, but the Catalinbread Nags Viper seems like it could be cool as well.
 

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