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Stoner/Doom Bassists Thread, Part 90: Maxed Out

sorry i havent been on here much guys. Since the app went away I only really get on TB for more than a few minutes on the rare times I have access to a laptop because the site SUCKS on my phone... and if I miss 2 days on here it seems you guys jump ahead 30 pages...

Anyway, I just had the most annoying experience!! I just sold an instrument on Reverb ( and not on talkbass because I cant bring myself to pay for a membership to a site I can rarely use!) ...
So in selling my listing it was up for $1850 and this fella offers me $1500. I tell him Im happy to come down to $1700 with free shipping. He agrees, but before he hits the "buy" button he has second thoughts and he then spends the rest of the evening haggling with me to come down to $1600. I finally relent and say I'll go $1650 (because I can give up $50 to make $1600!). He agrees and buys my listing. Im happy right? Well then I go to make a shipping label thru fedex and I need to know whether or not its a residential or commercial address so i Google up his address and find the Zillow listing from 2013 when he bought his house for $1,950,00 that is currently appraised for $2.35 mill! Dude is buying $2 million dollar houses and is haggling with me over a $100!!! Wow... Im just gonna assume that with his mortgage he needs that $100 more than me!
Next time tell the haggler to put up or get lost.... Cause it's probably another ass hat.
 
Sold my Ray34CA locally and sold another pedal on Reverb today. I'm on a streak, at last. Posted a bunch of old recording accessories up on Reverb today too, patch cables still in the packaging, a patchbay, we'll see if it moves at all. It's crazy how much stuff I have in storage that I forgot I even own, miles of cables from when I actually had analog rack recording gear.
 
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Nothing beats that feeling of when a new tune comes together.

I just bought a $79 (+$40 shipping) peavey 4x12 from GC so I can have a cab for the Peavey musician. Those peavey musicians sound great on guitar. Our guitarist's tube head is getting a check up so he has been using the Peavey and it sounds rad. Now I just need to finished the guitar kit I started last year. :bassist: I just need a matching Peavey Bass 400 and a matching cab for the complete home jam set. lol


I have that same Gone Squatchin hat! lol
View attachment 547869 View attachment 547871 A couple more shots from Peavey Henge unveil...
 
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Nothing beats that feeling of when a new tune comes together.

I just bought a $79 (+$40 shipping) peavey 4x12 from GC so I can have a cab for the Peavey musician. Those peavey musicians sound great on guitar. Our guitarist's tube head is getting a check up so he has been using the Peavey and it sounds rad. Now I just need to finished the guitar kit I started last year. :bassist: I just need a matching Peavey Bass 400 and a matching cab for the complete home jam set. lol


I have that same Gone Squatchin hat! lol

Which model Musician is it? I see one with sliders, a bass one(maybe they are all bass, I have no clue), etc.
 
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Interesting article... it mentions a number of things that's always been in my mind about the debate.

anyone that claims vinyl sounds better because it is analog an has better dynamics is full of shvt. That may be true for vinyl pressed 20 or more years ago, but anything in the last 20 years not analog. To have true analog sound the original source material has to be recorded on tape. Hardly anyone records on tape anymore. It is too expensive, to difficult and not enough people have the skills to do it properly. Pretty much all music today is recorded on some form of computer and digitized. The pressing plant gets the tracks on CD or uncompressed audio files. They then take the digital audio run it through their DAC and convert it to analog and press the vinyl. The only difference between CD an vinyl is who does the convrsion from digital. with vinyl it is the pressing plant, with CD it is your CD player. Any differences in sound have nothing to do with the medium itself. Instead the mastering on vinyl is different (or shoud be) than the CD version. typically the bass and treble are rolled off and the overall volume is lowered. Then there are the other factors in the chain, like your cartridge, tonearm and phono preamp. each piece will affect the sound and none of these are in your CD chain. even reissues of classic albums are no longer analog. it is very rare that a label will give anyone access to the master tapes. most major label libraries have been digitized anyone wanting the rights to reissue an album will get a CD and not the tape.
 
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anyone that claims vinyl sounds better because it is analog an has better dynamics is full of shvt. That may be true for vinyl pressed 20 or more years ago, but anything in the last 20 years not analog. To have true analog sound the original source material has to be recorded on tape. Hardly anyone records on tape anymore. It is too expensive, to difficult and not enough people have the skills to do it properly. Pretty much all music today is recorded on some form of computer and digitized. The pressing plant gets the tracks on CD or uncompressed audio files. They then take the digital audio run it through their DAC and convert it to analog and press the vinyl. The only difference between CD an vinyl is who does the convrsion from digital. with vinyl it is the pressing plant, with CD it is your CD player. Any differences in sound have nothing to do with the medium itself. Instead the mastering on vinyl is different (or shoud be) than the CD version. typically the bass and treble are rolled off and the overall volume is lowered. Then there are the other factors in the chain, like your cartridge, tonearm and phono preamp. each piece will affect the sound and none of these are in your CD chain. even reissues of classic albums are no longer analog. it is very rare that a label will give anyone access to the master tapes. most major label libraries have been digitized anyone wanting the rights to reissue an album will get a CD and not the tape.

I tend to agree.
If the audio ever enters a digital format the analog wave after that will be stepped and to some degree the frequency response and transients are altered.
I think everyone should still print the SPARS code on releases so the consumer knows exactly what they are getting.
Digital could be a lot better than it is now.
Here is an interesting short film on the short comings of digital audio:
 
Some more observations on the new DiMarzios.
Played a bit last night getting the volumes equaled out between the two.
These pickups seem to have a much larger sweet spot for string height than the EMGs I had before.

The J pickup really came to life once I got it close enough to the strings. Much more complex mids and lows.
Also think that Dual Sound flat out blows. No reason ever to take the J pickup out of series.

One thing I didn't anticipate was the change to the flatwound 'clank' sound. Its different and I'm not sure if it's the Tonestyler or the pickups but it's much more mellow than with the EMGs. Always figured that was more focused in the upper midrange. I guess it's up there in treble land that these pickups don't emphasize.

When I get back in there to check the issue with the volume pot I'll probably remove the push/pull volume pot.

The only thing I have left to do is buy two sets of the same strings. One for these new pickups and one for my Hondo II Pro.
Its the only way I know to try the old Dimarzio p pickup against the new.

As of now it's hard to say which is better, the new P is gnarly but that could be string choice and confirmation bias.

That global series mode is really really really great. Can't say enough good things about that.
 
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Tried out the new chinese mini pedals last night. Got what I paid for.

The flanger sounds pretty good, but glitches the hell out if you put the depth above two thirds. It's interesting. Also - popping when you engage the pedal, which causes me to be angry. On to the pile it goes.

The other one is a distortion pedal that I was thinking/hoping was a Rat clone - it has a bass boost setting, which is actually just a mid scoop. The tone knob seems to add midrange, which helps with the scoop that's supposed to be a bass boost. Interesting, messed up, but it sounds harsh on most settings. Might be cool for some specific guitar tones, but no good for bass. On to the pile it goes.

Oh well, lesson learned.
 
Some more observations on the new DiMarzios.
Played a bit last night getting the volumes equaled out between the two.
These pickups seem to have a much larger sweet spot for string height than the EMGs I had before.

The J pickup really came to life once I got it close enough to the strings. Much more complex mids and lows.
Also think that Dual Sound flat out blows. No reason ever to take the J pickup out of series.

One thing I didn't anticipate was the change to the flatwound 'clank' sound. Its different and I'm not sure if it's the Tonestyler or the pickups but it's much more mellow than with the EMGs. Always figured that was more focused in the upper midrange. I guess it's up there in treble land that these pickups don't emphasize.

When I get back in there to check the issue with the volume pot I'll probably remove the push/pull volume pot.

The only thing I have left to do is buy two sets of the same strings. One for these new pickups and one for my Hondo II Pro.
Its the only way I know to try the old Dimarzio p pickup against the new.

As of now it's hard to say which is better, the new P is gnarly but that could be string choice and confirmation bias.

That global series mode is really really really great. Can't say enough good things about that.

What does dual sound refer to in this case? Parallel?
 
What does dual sound refer to in this case? Parallel?
Yep.
It is interesting you mention that because on their website they refer to it in a couple of different ways. They refer to it as series/parallel and they also refer to it as series/single.

In my case I went with series/parallel cause i hate single coil noise.

Seems silly to me to have a branding like "Dual-Sound" and have it refer to a couple of different things.
 
Yep.
It is interesting you mention that because on their website they refer to it in a couple of different ways. They refer to it as series/parallel and they also refer to it as series/single.

In my case I went with series/parallel cause i hate single coil noise.

Seems silly to me to have a branding like "Dual-Sound" and have it refer to a couple of different things.

Is this stellartone? I read there site but it's kinda clunky and doesn't refer to wjat any of the positions on the tonestylers are except to say it's capacitors like a varitone.

Dual-sound sounds like a way to refer to Ric-o-sound safely. I guess parallel is technically dual sound but it's confusing to refer to something obvious by a new name...

Single coils sound better to me so I have to just live with that noise. This is mostly referring to guitar and bass vi experience. Bass I don't really care either way.
 
Is this stellartone? I read there site but it's kinda clunky and doesn't refer to wjat any of the positions on the tonestylers are except to say it's capacitors like a varitone.

Dual-sound sounds like a way to refer to Ric-o-sound safely. I guess parallel is technically dual sound but it's confusing to refer to something obvious by a new name...

Single coils sound better to me so I have to just live with that noise. This is mostly referring to guitar and bass vi experience. Bass I don't really care either way.
Stellartone Tonstylers are just a small and convenient package of a rotary switch with a selection of capacitors. Without a separate tone potentiometer each setting is like the tone rolled all the way off only with different capacitor values. Which means you have a selection of deep treble cuts at different frequencies, each one with a slight bump before the cut.
This bump is a resonance peak formed by the impedance of your pickup.

Is that better or more unclear?
 
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