Stoner/Doom Bassists Thread, Part 90: Maxed Out

[Geezer Brown]

which one can cop the Matamp sound the best?

 

[Speedor]

Orange would be closer I guess.

 

[bahia0019]

I'm looking for some good "starter" songs that either have Isolated bass tracks on Youtube, or have the bass really forward in the mix. I'd like to start training my ear for Stoner/Doom bass.

Any recommendations? I've done some work with Sabbath already... Any others?

 

[bassboysam]

Neither can really do the Matamp sound. The AD200 does not really share anything with it's original Matamp design.

 

[Geezer Brown]

Neither can really do the Matamp sound. The AD200 does not really share anything with it's original Matamp design.

So what does cop that sound? Besides the real deal, of course.

 

[Blank_0101]

@Speedor

Is that a you in your avatar?

 

[Speedor]

@Speedor

Is that a you in your avatar?

I drew it a long time ago, a buddy digitized it like six months ago, I put it recently as my Facebook photo and suddenly everyone says it perfectly reflects my personality

 

[bassboysam]

So what does cop that sound? Besides the real deal, of course.

can't think of anything off the top of my head and I've owned all the big boys at one point in time or another.

Matamp GT200
Vintage SVT
Fender 300 Pro
Mesa 400+
Traynor YBA-3
Sound City Bass 150
Traynor YBA-200


The SC was probably the closest. a little more dirty sounding than the matamp though.

 

[Blank_0101]

So what does cop that sound? Besides the real deal, of course.

I don't think anything cops that tone at least in a tube amp form that you'd find at sweetwater. You mentioned it had to be new and from there.

Maybe that sansamp Orange pedal.

The AD200B is a fender tone stack with baked in mid scoop, my fear is you buy a fancy pedal to sculpt the tone of your fancy amp and the amp cuts the tone you want from the pedal.

 

[jollygiantchris]

I'm looking for some good "starter" songs that either have Isolated bass tracks on Youtube, or have the bass really forward in the mix. I'd like to start training my ear for Stoner/Doom bass.

Any recommendations? I've done some work with Sabbath already... Any others?

The only isolated bass that is roughly in stoner doom territory I can think of it Mastodon's guitar hero stuff which can be found easily on youtube. Otherwise I'd just learn Sabbath and Om songs. Since Om is a drum/bass duo for most of it's existence it's relatively easy to learn by ear. It's all pretty much the blues scale with some exceptions anyways.

 

[Muddslide]

Back home now. While I was in the hospital someone stole money out of my wallet. Must have happened when I was taking a shower. It was in a nightstand drawer by the bed.

The things that happen to me...in my past life I must have been an animal abuser or something.

 

[Geezer Brown]

The only isolated bass that is roughly in stoner doom territory I can think of it Mastodon's guitar hero stuff which can be found easily on youtube. Otherwise I'd just learn Sabbath and Om songs. Since Om is a drum/bass duo for most of it's existence it's relatively easy to learn by ear. It's all pretty much the blues scale with some exceptions anyways.

First 4 Sabbath Albums, Sleep's Holy mountain is very bass forward/dominant. The first three electric wizard albums have a lot of stuff that is pure bass. I.E. The Hills Have Eyes, Electric Wizard, Invixor B/Phase Inducer.

 

[Geezer Brown]

So there's no way to get any of those to sound alike? If I did have to use stomps to get them to do that, what should I use?

 

[Geezer Brown]

well I assumed be overdriven amp that we're talking about power tube OD not preamp drive. if we're talking about preamp drive then anything with a master volume would work with an 810.

Wouldn't setting the master and gain at the same position simulate a non-master amplifier?
(*IE Gain@6 MV@6)

 

[mbelue]

Wouldn't setting the master and gain at the same position simulate a non-master amplifier?
(*IE Gain@6 MV@6)

No, to simulate a non master amp you max the master and control volume with your gain knob.

 

[Geezer Brown]

No, to simulate a non master amp you max the master and control volume with your gain knob.

I see. Thank you for clarifying.

So I figure I should cross all 200W+ amps off the list since I most likely wont be able to get them to do that OPT sound.

 

[Geezer Brown]

I don't think anything cops that tone at least in a tube amp form that you'd find at sweetwater. You mentioned it had to be new and from there.

Maybe that sansamp Orange pedal.

The AD200B is a fender tone stack with baked in mid scoop, my fear is you buy a fancy pedal to sculpt the tone of your fancy amp and the amp cuts the tone you want from the pedal.

What's the difference between the tonestacks on an SVT/V4, a Fender tone stack, and the Orange?

 

[ampegfuzz]

Orange and fender both use the fmv
And the ampeg is baxandall

 

[mbelue]

Orange and fender both use the fmv
And the ampeg is baxandall

Fender and orange EQ both have a mid scoop any time other than controls @ 2/10/2ish.
Shouldn't be a big problem with an Ampeg 810e though.

 

[Blank_0101]

Back home now. While I was in the hospital someone stole money out of my wallet. Must have happened when I was taking a shower. It was in a nightstand drawer by the bed.

The things that happen to me...in my past life I must have been an animal abuser or something.

I shouldn't laugh as that's sharty as shat can be. But something about that past life thing is hilarious.

Fender and orange EQ both have a mid scoop any time other than controls @ 2/10/2ish.
Shouldn't be a big problem with an Ampeg 810e though.

Are those new fenders FMV too? Even with that mid select and graphic EQ? I might be thinking of the wrong fender head, but all the new ones seem more complicated.