that's just the nature of the beast. it's a guitar driven genre. but the first band that pops in my head is Kyuss, especially Welcome to Sky Valley.
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Stoner/Doom Bassists Thread, Part 90: Maxed Out
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that's just the nature of the beast. it's a guitar driven genre. but the first band that pops in my head is Kyuss, especially Welcome to Sky Valley.
If you're not already listening to them, you should have MONOBROW and Supervoid in your rotation.
This is also in my rotation, I think @Squanch72 turned me on to them. It is proggy, but I dig it.
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Asteroid, Causa Saui, Rotor(Germany), and Colour Haze come to my mind.
Thanks, hopefully it pans out, otherwise I'll be a bitter underemployed man if I have to walk/drive/live next to the place that got away.
What's your thoughts on your 6x10 next to the behringers? Still gonna keep them or one for home use?
I actually tried listening to that one just a little before I posted this. I had a lot of trouble making out the bass on that one as well.
I know there are some real challenges for bass players given the low tunings and heavy level of distortion involved. I think that it is somewhat ironic that so many bassists, myself included, like a genre that seems to intentionally tell bass players to get to the back of the bus.
I haven't A/B'd them, but the 6x10 is more efficient, louder, deeper and tighter. Volume knob on the 2-pro was barely at noon at the last practice and I was dominating the mix. With the Behringers I'd have to be closer to 2:00-3:00 to get that kind of volume. I still like the sound of the Behringers, never had an issue with the sound. I'm debating whether to keep them or sell them. Won't be able to get much for them, aside from being made by "that" company they're outdated, rat fur is coming off and my half-assed paint job of the tweeter and LF driver surrounds doesn't look so hot on close inspection.
I like the idea of hooking it all up to the 2-PRO and seeing what happens, but it's really unnecessary for either band. Couldn't fit in all in the car at one time anyway. I also like the idea of having a "B" rig - I still have the LH1000 - but don't know when I'd have occasion to use it.
Anyway, long story short I'll probably keep them for now, at least until I have GAS for something else and decide to sell them.
It is all about slotting. Most guitarists dont like to be told to occupy their corner of the mix. They dont get that their super heavy low sound, is actually crap when you play it with other people. "Bedroom" tone is the term I have seen used for it. Even multiple guitars in the same mix have that issue. In the last band I was in, one of the guitarists only liked his tone. He would dial in the other guitarist to sound the same, and would want me to have the same tone. Then he would complain that it sounded like crap all together, but was dissatisfied by how they sounded on their own.
I have to disagree with the last statement, I think bass players are much more respected in this genre compared to pretty much any other subgenre of rock or metal.
Reverend Bizarre
Church of Misery
Hypnos 69
OM
Sleep
Big Business
Doomriders
Are just a few that I can rattle off from the top of my head. I'll think of more and post them as I think of them.
I find a you need decent listening equipment to hear bass more distinctly. I typically listen for the differences in dirt and mid character to differentiate them in a dense mix.
I agree, allot of bass is missing from your average commercial speaker/headphone. 99%of people don't have the equipment to actually hear the bass.
I know it is sacrilege in this thread... But DSP really helps turn crappy ear buds in to something worth using.
Is your dsp like built in to your phone or whatever you listen via?
Witch bass tones very mid focused and Grindy and isn't always playing the same riff in unison as the guitarist.
I've noticed that it is easier to get an audible bass tone when you are doing super retro stuff with thinner guitar tones. Where as the bass tone for bands like High on Fire, The Sword, Electric Wizard, and YOB are often AWOL.
