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Stoner/Doom Bassists Thread, Part 90: Maxed Out

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kleinenenten said:
Both of my basses have numerous tone controls. The Supercollider has a standard tone, mids, and mass (bass) controls. If the tone goes up past noon, it seems to lose bass, regardless of the mass knob's position. The Pharaoh has a standard tone and a hi knob that mixes in the original signal with the affected signal.


I'm not planning on stacking the fuzz and 250, I was thinking of running one or the other. I know the 250 dooms pretty well, so I thought I might try that, since without all the extraneous tone knobs I might get a more useable sound, or at least get one much quicker. It seemed like no matter how I adjusted the tone last night, the fuzz wasn't present. That's what started my initial inquiry, because I loved the sound of the fuzz, and at low volume jamming it killed. So I'm just thinking I might need to crank the volume on the fuzz when we play louder and say forget unity gain.
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I find that with fuzzes, at least in my experience, the adage that what sounds good in the mix won't sound good solo has kinda applied so far.
 
#32,124
Hi guys. I just came here to ask a few questions, I try to say all the info that i think u will need to help me :)

First my gear:
Fender Aerodyne
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Yamaha BBT500
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I just play bass like less than a year ago (studying music seriously), but I learn fast...

Now i throw my questions:
I know learn songs of this generes don't help me to improve my skills or my music development, but..in wich mode/scale is easier to find "stoner rock" bass lines?
(for study these modes or scales)

Wich EQ and bass config would be better to find stoner tone?

Ty in advance :)
 
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NUVOL said:
Hi guys. I just came here to ask a few questions, I try to say all the info that i think u will need to help me :)

First my gear:
Fender Aerodyne
[Invalid or Expired Link Removed]
Yamaha BBT500
Invalid Link Removed

I just play bass like less than a year ago (studying music seriously), but I learn fast...

Now i throw my questions:
I know learn songs of this generes don't help me to improve my skills or my music development, but..in wich mode/scale is easier to find "stoner rock" bass lines?
(for study these modes or scales)

Wich EQ and bass config would be better to find stoner tone?

Ty in advance :)
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most of stoner rock is minor pentatonic. doom incorporates the flat 2 and/or the maj 7 as passing tones quite often as well i find. i like middle eastern scales too. when slowed down they can be quite doomy.
 
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NUVOL said:
Hi guys. I just came here to ask a few questions, I try to say all the info that i think u will need to help me :)

First my gear:
Fender Aerodyne
[Invalid or Expired Link Removed]
Yamaha BBT500
Invalid Link Removed

I just play bass like less than a year ago (studying music seriously), but I learn fast...

Now i throw my questions:
I know learn songs of this generes don't help me to improve my skills or my music development, but..in wich mode/scale is easier to find "stoner rock" bass lines?
(for study these modes or scales)

Wich EQ and bass config would be better to find stoner tone?

Ty in advance :)
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Doom actually does improve your ability to stay in the pocket and on tempo. Easier to mess up timing when you're going slow than fast, as there's more space between each beat.

Lots of doom uses natural minor, the minor pentatonic scale, phrygian mode or even locrian mode. A couple bands I've heard use a weird variation of what seems to be either phrygian or locrian that sometimes incorporates a raised third.
 
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NBD. Fury number 2 has landed. Thanks again @Burnsy. Bass was well packed and arrived with no scuffs or scrapes that hadn't already been there. I was going to ditch the cream PG for a white one, but the cream is growing on me. Pretty stoked all around. Also my components to finish my phaoroh and blue warbler builds have landed AND I ****ed my back at work today so I'll be taking the night off. Gives me time to enjoy these new toys.
 
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NUVOL said:
I know learn songs of this generes don't help me to improve my skills or my music development,
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Why not?

NUVOL said:
but..in wich mode/scale is easier to find "stoner rock" bass lines?
(for study these modes or scales)
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Same as blues. (and all the variations of blues)


NUVOL said:
Wich EQ and bass config would be better to find stoner tone?
Ty in advance :)
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Loud and warm, but let the kick through. Cut through with a fuzz.
 
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Continuing to think about my fuzz/mix dilemma. Got a DOD250 in today. 3rd one. As usual, loving it solo. Had one guitarist over tonight, and it seemed to do better in the mix. Maybe this whole "no tone controls" theory has some weight to it! Next week the full practice will tell, but it definitely was better than the other fuzzes I had. (Yes, I realize it's not a "fuzz", but it's fuzz-y.)

Anyway, I got to thinking. LS-2? Would a clean blend help, or just unnecessarily cluster my board? I know some people swear by clean blending, others hate it. Mind you, I don't want crazy fuzz. I want fuzz with lows and some definition to cut the mix. So far I can EQ a fuzz for all lows, or all bite, but not both. So, blending?
 
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Mayhaps. I'd love to hear your gear in person. My Hail Satan delivers lows and bite without fail. There is some weird interactivity between the tone and mid knobs that creates a bunch of IMO unusable tones, however there is also a sweet spot that brings the heat for sure. I can cut through my band pretty well and still flap some pants.
 
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kleinenenten said:
Continuing to think about my fuzz/mix dilemma. Got a DOD250 in today. 3rd one. As usual, loving it solo. Had one guitarist over tonight, and it seemed to do better in the mix. Maybe this whole "no tone controls" theory has some weight to it! Next week the full practice will tell, but it definitely was better than the other fuzzes I had. (Yes, I realize it's not a "fuzz", but it's fuzz-y.)

Anyway, I got to thinking. LS-2? Would a clean blend help, or just unnecessarily cluster my board? I know some people swear by clean blending, others hate it. Mind you, I don't want crazy fuzz. I want fuzz with lows and some definition to cut the mix. So far I can EQ a fuzz for all lows, or all bite, but not both. So, blending?
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if a fuzz doesn't cut through a clean blend won't help.
 

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