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Stoner/Doom Bassists Thread, Part 90: Maxed Out

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the high/low dual gain setting on a demon (or rat tail) works if you want your "cleaner" gain to be lower in volume than your "heavier" gain.

I've always setup my distortion to be louder than my clean tone, so this never really bothered me. Gave the appropriate amount of boost when going from low gain to high gain. But everyone likes different things obviously.
 
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Getting way ahead of myself and wondering if I should pick up a Squier P or J 4 banger for the new project. I doubt we'll be in B or E standard - yes I could transpose and use the 5er - but I like hammering away on those open strings. Theoretically I could sell my Rat and pay for low-end squier w/ my employee discount.
 
#3,987
Why you drop the octron again??[/QUOTE]

The second one I ended up with seems to be an earlier version and just sounded different to me than the one I sold to JMac. I am thinking of going back to an MXR bass octave or the MXR slash octave fuzz again. I just love to the MXR octave down tone, though it is not as tweakable on the slash octave fuzz but that is offset by the sweet Octavia on that slash pedal. I am also curious to try out a Whammy, though I don't usually dig digital octave pedals.
 
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Lazarus.Bird said:
Never played a Pharaoh in person and they always sound great in the video clips, but I've definitely heard multiple people complain about their low end retention on bass.
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i found it a little too farty for my tastes. Tried two different pedals and both times it would compress and lose too much volume on lower notes. Having said that Joe got my last Pharaoh and it seems to be working out well for him.
 
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#3,990
dcarwin said:
I've got a Demon with dual gain. First off, it sounds fantastic.

I'm not a hundred percent confident recommending the dual gain option for the simple fact that there is only one volume knob, shared by both gain knobs. It means that if I set volume levels with one gain setting, then the other gain setting is too loud or too quiet.

In practice, it means I have to keep the two gain knobs very near each other with respect to gain level, so that the volume jump is not too drastic - which is not what I wanted.

In sum, if I did re order, I'd get dual volume controls to go with the dual gain controls, which basically means two pedals. Get two demons in small enclosures.
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Cheers, good suggestion!

I actually keep the volumes on the UDs very similar, but obviously the same settings in the Demon might not work for me - wee bit risky considering the cost/wait time!
 
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Ron Now said:
the high/low dual gain setting on a demon (or rat tail) works if you want your "cleaner" gain to be lower in volume than your "heavier" gain.

I've always setup my distortion to be louder than my clean tone, so this never really bothered me. Gave the appropriate amount of boost when going from low gain to high gain. But everyone likes different things obviously.
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I'm fully with you in theory, but in practice (and this is probably because your band mates are far better at dynamics than mine) the volume diff is too great for me if I want one knob at three o'clock and the other at nine for example. I either can't hear myself on clean, or crush my mates and invoke their whine-age on dirty. :-)
 
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dcarwin said:
I've got a Demon with dual gain. First off, it sounds fantastic.

I'm not a hundred percent confident recommending the dual gain option for the simple fact that there is only one volume knob, shared by both gain knobs. It means that if I set volume levels with one gain setting, then the other gain setting is too loud or too quiet.

In practice, it means I have to keep the two gain knobs very near each other with respect to gain level, so that the volume jump is not too drastic - which is not what I wanted.

In sum, if I did re order, I'd get dual volume controls to go with the dual gain controls, which basically means two pedals. Get two demons in small enclosures.
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Dual Demon! That's what I got. Two Demon's with their own sperate gain, tone and volume controls. plus clean blends on both. Also the first Demon has LED clipping, giving it a less gainy, brighter and less compressed sound.

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virginiacreeper said:
Hey Ron,

I'm stoked you guys are playing Denver. Are you bringing your rig or backlining it?
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We're excited to be coming out. It's just the one show so we're flying out, aka not our backline. However, Atlas Cabinets are providing the backline for the show, so we should have enough to be loud and sound good.
 
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Ron Now said:
We're excited to be coming out. It's just the one show so we're flying out, aka not our backline. However, Atlas Cabinets are providing the backline for the show, so we should have enough to be loud and sound good.
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No roadtrip in the Bongripper Mystery Machine? (In my imagination you guys have a sweet van and a dog with a loose grasp of the English language)

But yeah, probably not practical for guys with jobs/families/responsibilities.
 
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Using the DK second gain stage as a noise gate of sorts. Having seperate controls would help flexability for sure. I apparently have an old one. Still deciding if it's needed. I like the first gain stage feeding the blower box but need to engage the second for feedback gate. Going to try it some more this weekend in rehersal.
 
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