Stoner/Doom Bassists Thread, Part 90: Maxed Out

[kzr750r1]

Tell him to say it out loud in front of as many as possible!

 

[Speedor]

I'm starting to GAS for DOD Carcosa Fuzz.

 

[Blank_0101]

I run a Voodoo PP Iso 5, never a problem with it. I like that it has a dedicated 18v out for Dunwich or EAE stuff.

Locally all I ever see is the Iso 5, so I got two for around $50 each.

Do use the 12v/potent 9v any special way? I tend to leave my reverb on that one, but it says delays run well there too.

 

[Pelham Bleu]

Locally all I ever see is the Iso 5, so I got two for around $50 each.

Do use the 12v/potent 9v any special way? I tend to leave my reverb on that one, but it says delays run well there too.

Some pedals such as @dunwichamps' Volt Thrower can run at 18v for added head room, so I run them off that spot. That's all I've really used it for.

 

[kleinenenten]

looks like I'll be scoring a new fuzz pedal soon. Saw it advertised on local FB music classifieds. Turns out the seller is a friend / work acquaintance of my brother-in-law. I've been coordinating a three-way deal, explaining to my bro-in-law that this guy will come to his office and expect to be given $60 in exchange for his Swollen Pickle.
Sorry, couldn't help it.

Sweet deal. I'd jump all over that Swollen Pickle for that much. Even sweeter if someone else jumps on it for you!

 

[kleinenenten]

I'm starting to GAS for DOD Carcosa Fuzz.

I've seen some vids, and it doesn't do much for me personally. Which is hard to admit, because I LOOOVE DOD. I have like 20 pedals of theirs, with something like 16 distinct effects. But the Carcosa seems to have too much high end for me. I think I have slowly realized I'm a fan of mids and low end burl.

But if I had a shop close to me that stocked some of these things, I'd jump to try them out! Not a great selection of pedals around here. That's why I typically ask you fine gents.

Let me know how the Carcosa sounds, I'd love to be proven wrong!

 

[PokeyPrasch]

Been wanting for this, luckily no funds.

 

[mpdd]

they changed the eq on my amp at the repair shop and now i'm not sure if i want a more traditional bass tone as opposed to the really aggro biting mid focused tone i usually use with the d180

 

[eyeballkid]

I recently accidentally hit the 500k slider all the way up on my 300 Pro. Was playing and really digging the great aggressive punk tone i was getting.. its weird how slipping into a new sonic space affects your thinking about your rig.

 

[kzr750r1]

Weren't you selling that rig? Was gonna hit you up but shipping would kill.
Felt the same about the Trace pulling that mid sweep knob really livened up the tone with both the 215 and 410 cabs.

 

[Speedor]

I've seen some vids, and it doesn't do much for me personally. Which is hard to admit, because I LOOOVE DOD. I have like 20 pedals of theirs, with something like 16 distinct effects. But the Carcosa seems to have too much high end for me. I think I have slowly realized I'm a fan of mids and low end burl.

But if I had a shop close to me that stocked some of these things, I'd jump to try them out! Not a great selection of pedals around here. That's why I typically ask you fine gents.

Let me know how the Carcosa sounds, I'd love to be proven wrong!

I'm still waiting for someone to make a bass demo, but I sure like how it sounds on guitar. I decided recently to make my own little fuzz collection and I'm mainly looking for weird and unusual stuff.

 

[vdub75]

I Need some ideas for bi-amp-like Setup

I use:
Comp, Akai Unibass, bass muff, overdrive, ampeg rack preamp, power amp, cab

The unibass can add an extra "guitar powerchord" to my bass Signal or send it via an extra out to a guitar amp.

I wand to use the "extra out" into a guitar preamp pedal (cheap, for tryin, later whatever fits) like a joyo trutone or whatever, and blend it with my bass Signal after the bass effects. got any idea how to do it?

I can Switch the guitar Signal on and off by switching the unibass on and off.

 

[Korladis]

Summer gigs: shorts, no shirt. Gotta stay chill.

I tried playing with now shirt a couple times as a teenager. It felt awkward. You will never, ever see me play without a shirt on.

im not very versed in recording, but I fell into the rabbit hole a couple months ago reading about old recording techniques. Also of course different genres and such might vary, but a Couple things I gleaned so far.

1. Rooms weren't always great or built suited for said purpose.

I visited sun studios and the famous "room" so many greats recorded in was basically an office break room with with the standard linoleum tile and ceiling tiles. They had like 1-3 mics and a typical mix was singer stand in front of mic and everything else behind them. Maybe occasionally putting mics other places.

2. A lot less mics

Most studios were one take live styles recordings. Vocal and room mics were pretty much it a lot of places. It wasn't until the disco era they really started mic'ing everything. Drums without bottom heads and mics shoved inside came around then.

3. Gear quality

Most was absolute garbage, rose colored glasses combined with us only seeing primarily the "good stuff" these days. You know since the garbage generally wound up there.

Mics weren't as great, and drums of the day were very very poorly made. The great vintage kits that fetch $$$, are generally made to the same specs or worse than many of today's most budget models. Shells were thinner, smaller and had to have support rings and such to keep them true, and hardware was abysmally weak in most cases.

Motown records official drum set was literally just pieced together from the best sounding junk and left behind parts from other musicians.

Remember also, they were producing quick singles usually and intended for the eras radios which Sucked for bass. As a result they very rarely focus on real low end.

It's hard to get a good room if you're doing things yourself.

Also, people had a lot fewer tracks to play with back then.

And yeah, we definitely see the past through rose tinted glasses. If you look beyond the classics, there was a ton of stuff that was absolute crap. And also recorded with really questionable mix decisions.

As far as gear quality, it was all over the place. A lot was crap, but some was pretty good. Our drummer uses these deep 50s snares. Not very wide, but quite tall. But a lot of the stuff used back then wouldn't really hold up now. While some of our favorite gear is from those eras, at the time, often it was ludicrously expensive. As I recall, a Sunn 2000S system's price would be the equivalent of $10,000 today. The stuff most musicians were stuck with was rather subpar.

Also bands often didn't like how the recordings came out, but weren't in a position to really do much about it. Entwistle famously was frustrated at recording personnel and to be fair, the Who did sound way different in studio than live, partly because of them being made to keep turning down.

Doesn't stop my friend from swangin' his moobs and thug lyfe gut tattoo in time to his music lol.

Gross.

It's mostly irrational gear churn, honestly. I've used the Aria P and Warlock for basically every single HC gig since last November and I'm looking to change it up. That was recently spurred by doing recording for the 2nd HC EP; I used my Ric bridge pup and just want "that sound" all the time now. For recording, I did all the E and Drop D stuff, then re-set up the Ric for C stnd and did all that stuff. For live use, I'll have the Fireglo in C stnd and the Jetglo in E stnd/Drop D. Lastly, this goes a long ways back to 2011-12 when I was searching for a Ric. I originally wanted Jetglo but bought the Fireglo off the rack b/c Jetglo wasn't in-stock. This purchase just kinda completes that circuit. The "other" Ric I had was the green Chinese copy aka The Chinabacker. I sold that one this past winter/spring. It looked pretty cool and played great but didn't sound anything like a real Ric.

As for the Beta, as awesome as the head sounds (through a fridge that is, the 115 combo cab is too vintage for my preference) and as compact and convenient as it is for live use, it can't compare to the AD200. It has value so away it went to fund the Jetglo.

Yeah, the newer Chinese copies have the bridge pickup in totally the wrong position, which will throw off the whole sound of the instrument. The 70s Ibanez copies were much better in this aspect.

I've been using the 4003S lately with Catapult. Recorded all the new stuff with it. I've only ever had my bass in BEAD for that band.

looks like I'll be scoring a new fuzz pedal soon. Saw it advertised on local FB music classifieds. Turns out the seller is a friend / work acquaintance of my brother-in-law. I've been coordinating a three-way deal, explaining to my bro-in-law that this guy will come to his office and expect to be given $60 in exchange for his Swollen Pickle.
Sorry, couldn't help it.

Swollen Pickle is a monster of a pedal. A bit difficult to control and get dialed in (I wish the "filter" control was bypassable). I have the scoop turned all the way off on mine for maximum ganky grind.

Tell him to say it out loud in front of as many as possible!

And then say how happy you are to get it, since you love Big Muffs.

I'm starting to GAS for DOD Carcosa Fuzz.

What's a Carcosa fuzz? Named after the city Carcosa from The King In Yellow? I think I may need this thing, even if I don't really need more pedals right now.

Been wanting for this, luckily no funds.

The "Thou in a box" pedal.

they changed the eq on my amp at the repair shop and now i'm not sure if i want a more traditional bass tone as opposed to the really aggro biting mid focused tone i usually use with the d180

Changed your EQ? As in changed the circuit? Or just changed the knobs?

I go for a really nasty mid focused tone on the D-180 as well. Though lately I've been dialing in a lot more low end, since I know my new speakers can take it a lot better than the vintage ones.

 

[Speedor]

What's a Carcosa fuzz? Named after the city Carcosa from The King In Yellow? I think I may need this thing, even if I don't really need more pedals right now.

It's supposedly a modified Maestro FZ-1S. And yes, it's THAT Carcosa.

 

[kleinenenten]

I'm still waiting for someone to make a bass demo, but I sure like how it sounds on guitar. I decided recently to make my own little fuzz collection and I'm mainly looking for weird and unusual stuff.

Ah, well it certainly fits that bill. Hope it works for you!

 

[Korladis]

It's supposedly a modified Maestro FZ-1S. And yes, it's THAT Carcosa.

What's a Maestro FZ-1S?

Also I approve of the literary reference.

 

[Speedor]

What's a Maestro FZ-1S?

Also I approve of the literary reference.

No idea, some old classic fuzz circuit.

I also approve of the Lovecraft reference.

 

[Blank_0101]

What's a Maestro FZ-1S?

Also I approve of the literary reference.

Google might know.

I think the maestro on Seinfeld had a hand in it.

 

[mpdd]

Just a slider and knob adjustment, but I did kinda dig the fatter and less attacky tone, I'm trying to see if I can get up and shoot some pics before is gets hot as heck

I tried playing with now shirt a couple times as a teenager. It felt awkward. You will never, ever see me play without a shirt on.


It's hard to get a good room if you're doing things yourself.

Also, people had a lot fewer tracks to play with back then.

And yeah, we definitely see the past through rose tinted glasses. If you look beyond the classics, there was a ton of stuff that was absolute crap. And also recorded with really questionable mix decisions.

As far as gear quality, it was all over the place. A lot was crap, but some was pretty good. Our drummer uses these deep 50s snares. Not very wide, but quite tall. But a lot of the stuff used back then wouldn't really hold up now. While some of our favorite gear is from those eras, at the time, often it was ludicrously expensive. As I recall, a Sunn 2000S system's price would be the equivalent of $10,000 today. The stuff most musicians were stuck with was rather subpar.

Also bands often didn't like how the recordings came out, but weren't in a position to really do much about it. Entwistle famously was frustrated at recording personnel and to be fair, the Who did sound way different in studio than live, partly because of them being made to keep turning down.


Gross.


Yeah, the newer Chinese copies have the bridge pickup in totally the wrong position, which will throw off the whole sound of the instrument. The 70s Ibanez copies were much better in this aspect.

I've been using the 4003S lately with Catapult. Recorded all the new stuff with it. I've only ever had my bass in BEAD for that band.


Swollen Pickle is a monster of a pedal. A bit difficult to control and get dialed in (I wish the "filter" control was bypassable). I have the scoop turned all the way off on mine for maximum ganky grind.


And then say how happy you are to get it, since you love Big Muffs.


What's a Carcosa fuzz? Named after the city Carcosa from The King In Yellow? I think I may need this thing, even if I don't really need more pedals right now.


The "Thou in a box" pedal.


Changed your EQ? As in changed the circuit? Or just changed the knobs?

I go for a really nasty mid focused tone on the D-180 as well. Though lately I've been dialing in a lot more low end, since I know my new speakers can take it a lot better than the vintage ones.

 

[Squanch72]

Some (many) of us are too corpulent for that.