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Stoner/Doom Bassists Thread, Part 90: Maxed Out

#45,281
Novarocker said:
Not sure I've only heard em on YouTube. I just said it as a joke due to the two drive and gain knobs.

"Why don't you just make 10 louder?"

"...But these go to 11." Hahaha spinal tap



That was my experience with an older Ampeg 6x10. The size was nice, but yeah not loud and never really opened up before farting. Granted 3 speakers had been re-coned or replaced.



Nice dude, way to go with the two band pre. Never cared much for the sound of em myself but I always liked the two band more than the three band.
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I know the reference haha, I just thought you were saying that because you own one.
 
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What to do?

I know of a real deal, tube SVT nearby that is 1) in good working order and 2) selling for cheap, or at least cheaper than what people ask for. Here's my problem, I mean, 1st world problem - I already have an SVT III Pro, with the tube pre-amp (three 12AX7A's and two 12AU7's) and it sounds good. But I am wondering if I am missing out on that definitive SVT, 6x big-ass tubes sound. I also have a bunch of solid state amps I love, and don't know if I should part with them to help fund this, as they are mostly sitting around right now:

  • Traynor TS-50B - one of the definitive noise-rock amps, sorta hard to come by and not really cheap to buy anymore (70w max, solid state)
  • Traynor MonoBlock II - don't come up that often either, it would probably still work after being run over by a truck (250w max, solid state)
  • SUNN Beta Bass - this one was a complete hassle to get working right, but it's clean and it's loud. I have to dime the bass EQ to get any sort of low end out of it. The dirt/OD on it really isn't my favorite, but it's alright (100w max, solid state)
  • H/H Bass Machine - even more uncommon, the on-board phaser is one of the best I've heard, super thick and gooey (250w max, solid state)
  • Acoustic 320 - this was part of my 320/301 cab craigslist score, and is getting re-capped as of this post. I can flip it without too much regret, not sure about the 301 cab though, that thing sounds killer (300w max @ 2 ohms, solid state)
  • SVT III Pro - sounds great, but I don't know if the SVT above is that much greater. FOMO (450w max, tube/solid state)
WWDD? (what would doomers do)
 
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cornfarmer said:
What to do?

I know of a real deal, tube SVT nearby that is 1) in good working order and 2) selling for cheap, or at least cheaper than what people ask for. Here's my problem, I mean, 1st world problem - I already have an SVT III Pro, with the tube pre-amp (three 12AX7A's and two 12AU7's) and it sounds good. But I am wondering if I am missing out on that definitive SVT, 6x big-ass tubes sound. I also have a bunch of solid state amps I love, and don't know if I should part with them to help fund this, as they are mostly sitting around right now:

  • Traynor TS-50B - one of the definitive noise-rock amps, sorta hard to come by and not really cheap to buy anymore (70w max, solid state)
  • Traynor MonoBlock II - don't come up that often either, it would probably still work after being run over by a truck (250w max, solid state)
  • SUNN Beta Bass - this one was a complete hassle to get working right, but it's clean and it's loud. I have to dime the bass EQ to get any sort of low end out of it. The dirt/OD on it really isn't my favorite, but it's alright (100w max, solid state)
  • H/H Bass Machine - even more uncommon, the on-board phaser is one of the best I've heard, super thick and gooey (250w max, solid state)
  • Acoustic 320 - this was part of my 320/301 cab craigslist score, and is getting re-capped as of this post. I can flip it without too much regret, not sure about the 301 cab though, that thing sounds killer (300w max @ 2 ohms, solid state)
  • SVT III Pro - sounds great, but I don't know if the SVT above is that much greater. FOMO (450w max, tube/solid state)
WWDD? (what would doomers do)
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Just how cheap is this svt? How many heads would you have to move?
 
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cornfarmer said:
What to do?

I know of a real deal, tube SVT nearby that is 1) in good working order and 2) selling for cheap, or at least cheaper than what people ask for. Here's my problem, I mean, 1st world problem - I already have an SVT III Pro, with the tube pre-amp (three 12AX7A's and two 12AU7's) and it sounds good. But I am wondering if I am missing out on that definitive SVT, 6x big-ass tubes sound. I also have a bunch of solid state amps I love, and don't know if I should part with them to help fund this, as they are mostly sitting around right now:

  • Traynor TS-50B - one of the definitive noise-rock amps, sorta hard to come by and not really cheap to buy anymore (70w max, solid state)
  • Traynor MonoBlock II - don't come up that often either, it would probably still work after being run over by a truck (250w max, solid state)
  • SUNN Beta Bass - this one was a complete hassle to get working right, but it's clean and it's loud. I have to dime the bass EQ to get any sort of low end out of it. The dirt/OD on it really isn't my favorite, but it's alright (100w max, solid state)
  • H/H Bass Machine - even more uncommon, the on-board phaser is one of the best I've heard, super thick and gooey (250w max, solid state)
  • Acoustic 320 - this was part of my 320/301 cab craigslist score, and is getting re-capped as of this post. I can flip it without too much regret, not sure about the 301 cab though, that thing sounds killer (300w max @ 2 ohms, solid state)
  • SVT III Pro - sounds great, but I don't know if the SVT above is that much greater. FOMO (450w max, tube/solid state)
WWDD? (what would doomers do)
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If you get that SVT and want to trade that 320 for some pedals let me know :D
 
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#45,290
bassboysam said:
SVT is totally different from the 3 pro and anything SS. regardless of how cheap it is, factor in $150-$300 to get it up to spec no matter what the seller says.
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Care to elaborate on SVT vs. SVT III pro? More warmth, grit? Moar toobz? I can kinda hear 'the sound' on the III pro, but I don't think I'm getting the full frontal. I had a real deal SVT a long time ago, but never had a chance to use it the way it was intended and traded it off for other gear. Oddly enough, I've played either hybrid tube/SS amps or SS amps exclusively.

The head's been recently serviced at a reputable tech, so I doubt it will need anything.
 
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#45,292
eyeballkid said:
But it may not need anything. I've never needed to take a tube amp to a tech after buying one... but its good to have the funds just in case.
I've had much better luck with my tube amps than Sam though.
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my experience buying used tube amps:
seller says recently serviced with new tubes and low hours.

reality, 2 tubes are shot, caps are dead and there's a bunch of blown resistors.

never fails so i always factor the tech costs in.

luckily i am no longer buying amps
 
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cornfarmer said:
Care to elaborate on SVT vs. SVT III pro? More warmth, grit? Moar toobz? I can kinda hear 'the sound' on the III pro, but I don't think I'm getting the full frontal. I had a real deal SVT a long time ago, but never had a chance to use it the way it was intended and traded it off for other gear. Oddly enough, I've played either hybrid tube/SS amps or SS amps exclusively.

The head's been recently serviced at a reputable tech, so I doubt it will need anything.
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Just bigger.

It's as much a feel as a sound. Playing through an amp with a tube output section just responds differently.

It feels like my bass and the amp are more connected, if that makes sense. Like rather than playing my bass through my amp, it's all one thing.
 
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cornfarmer said:
What to do?

I know of a real deal, tube SVT nearby that is 1) in good working order and 2) selling for cheap, or at least cheaper than what people ask for. Here's my problem, I mean, 1st world problem - I already have an SVT III Pro, with the tube pre-amp (three 12AX7A's and two 12AU7's) and it sounds good. But I am wondering if I am missing out on that definitive SVT, 6x big-ass tubes sound. I also have a bunch of solid state amps I love, and don't know if I should part with them to help fund this, as they are mostly sitting around right now:

  • Traynor TS-50B - one of the definitive noise-rock amps, sorta hard to come by and not really cheap to buy anymore (70w max, solid state)
  • Traynor MonoBlock II - don't come up that often either, it would probably still work after being run over by a truck (250w max, solid state)
  • SUNN Beta Bass - this one was a complete hassle to get working right, but it's clean and it's loud. I have to dime the bass EQ to get any sort of low end out of it. The dirt/OD on it really isn't my favorite, but it's alright (100w max, solid state)
  • H/H Bass Machine - even more uncommon, the on-board phaser is one of the best I've heard, super thick and gooey (250w max, solid state)
  • Acoustic 320 - this was part of my 320/301 cab craigslist score, and is getting re-capped as of this post. I can flip it without too much regret, not sure about the 301 cab though, that thing sounds killer (300w max @ 2 ohms, solid state)
  • SVT III Pro - sounds great, but I don't know if the SVT above is that much greater. FOMO (450w max, tube/solid state)
WWDD? (what would doomers do)
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Man... I would love either of those Traynors!
 
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