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Stoner/Doom Bassists Thread, Part 90: Maxed Out

Can I admit that I am not nor ever have been cool enough to 'get' Boris? The concept of what they do appeals greatly, but they are forever blah. Every once in a while I try again. Same result.

i was in the same boat until i saw them live. for me it made me appreciate them and their records in a whole new way. now they have a ton of material and not all of it is gold, but when they are good they are one of the best.

Akuma No Uta
Feedbacker
Amplifier Worship
Flood
Heavy Rocks 1
Pink
Dear
Attention Please

those are my favorites right now. new album sounds promising from what i have heard so far. my copy should arrive today.
 
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Thank you. :)

The effects that is used throughout "In Orbit" is a fairly moderate and quite mellow flanger effect on the bass signal and a quite prominent phaser effect with the feedback turned up really high and with a fairly wide sweep on the octave up signal, exact same effects used on the intro/outro of "3rd Eye of Hypnos".

To me it makes for a great psychedelic effect that also has kind of an oriental quality to it, somewhat giving off a vibe of mysticism, but maybe that is just me imagining things.

I've done similar signal routing myself. If you ever have issues with the transient attack being to harsh a lpf can help tame that. On the octave up I mean.

I agree subtle settings on flangers creates an awesome chewy but spaced feel. I like the idea of mixing flangers and phasers.

Can I admit that I am not nor ever have been cool enough to 'get' Boris? The concept of what they do appeals greatly, but they are forever blah. Every once in a while I try again. Same result.

I've only tried once, may have to again.
 
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One of my favorite bands released a new album recently, they're considered black metal though.



The music seems to be well done. It’s too fast for me lol. I’m not really in to Black Metal, but it’s not a genre that I write off completely.

Yeah the guy that does the church thing and church music is not anti-black metal. Strange but true. I still don’t care for the vocals, but......
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Recently-released stuff I've been digging (that's at least somewhat close to the subject matter of this thread):





And the aforementioned Ghosts of Glaciers:

Eagerly awaiting the new Blood Incantation album as well. I heard them play it at Fire in the Mountains, but I wasn't really feeling great that day so I didn't absorb it. Regardless, I'd be shocked if it's anything less than "damn good."
 
I always love an excuse to post a picture of my setup. After trying stereo and wet dry, wet/dry is where it’s at. Being able to distort the crap out of the guitar head and run the deep switch on the svt is amazing. All the gnarly sound I could ever want and tons of low end. All the effects run through the Randall with a heavy mid boosted tone that cuts and still has the boom.

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Well, you've convinced me. Time to run the bi-amp rig next week at practice. I had stopped because I can't fit everything in my car for gigs. Didn't want to get too attached, haha.
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Well, you've convinced me. Time to run the bi-amp rig next week at practice. I had stopped because I can't fit everything in my car for gigs. Didn't want to get too attached, haha.
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Nice! I always love a nice rig and excuse for more. My 810 fills the back of my Ford Focus wagon but I could fit everything in my wife’s car. Our practice space is pretty tiny so until I can get a drummer going mine is solely for home use. For now it’s home use and hopefully by this time next year I’ll be gigging it a little bit.
 
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Nice! I always love a nice rig and excuse for more. My 810 fills the back of my Ford Focus wagon but I could fit everything in my wife’s car. Our practice space is pretty tiny so until I can get a drummer going mine is solely for home use. For now it’s home use and hopefully by this time next year I’ll be gigging it a little bit.
I have a focus hatchback. The Gk side fits no prob so its the gig rig for now, unless we start hauling everything in a trailer.
 
Here's a new recording of the bass to the track "3rd Eye of Hypnos" with my bass solo project "all I nil", this time played in it's correct form and with a distortion tone that in my opinion sounds better than the one used on first recording I posted of this track, and a little closer to how I'd prefer it to sound too.

The tempo though is a bit higher than on the first recording, which is faster than it really is supposed to be, but all in all still a better recording.

Here it is (again a Dropbox link):

"3rd Eye of Hypnos"
 
I began to wonder with the way I use my 5 string Mikro bass, for my solo bass/drums/vocals psychedlic stoner/doom project, which is more as kind of a bass/guitar hybrid or Bass VI type instrument than as a traditional bass, with a lot of use of simple chords, if tuning it up would be a better option for me, especially since one of the the 2 tracks I created for this so far, the one with the working title "In Orbit", that utilize the low E, actually sounds a bit muddy.

So I used the pitchshifter that comes with my DAW Reaper to get an idea which tunings would work, and it seems like 3 semi tones up is the magical spot, which means that instead of tuning my 5 string E1 to C3 as I do now, I'd likely get a more useful result tuning it G1 to D3.

The G seems sufficiently low to get me plenty of low end when needed, any higher I found lacking bottom and resulting in it sounding too thin, and any lower it started to sound too muddy.

So I used D'Addario's online app, "String Tension Pro", for calculating string tension, to get a set that has similar tension to the one I use now when tuned in G to D.

I will of course need to buy the strings separate as single strings, and in order for the two highest strings to be reasonable balanced with the rest of the set tension wise I will have to use guitar strings for those, as bass strings doesn't come in the gauges that would fit the high A# and D, it won't be an issue though since the scale length of my bass is just 28,6", making guitar strings sufficiently long, and for the guitar string's ball ends to fit the bass bridge I will just need to cut off the ball ends of some old bass strings and then thread the guitar strings through those.

Really looking forward to try this new tuning out, as I think it will improve the functionality of my bass a lot for how I use it.

Not sure if I can really call it a bass anymore after tuning it G1 to D3 though, or it would be more correct to refer to it as a 5 string down tuned baritone guitar with wide string spacing.

I mean pitch wise it will be 1 semi tone closer to a baritone guitar in A standard tuning than a bass in E standard tuning.
 
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Nice! I always love a nice rig and excuse for more. My 810 fills the back of my Ford Focus wagon but I could fit everything in my wife’s car. Our practice space is pretty tiny so until I can get a drummer going mine is solely for home use. For now it’s home use and hopefully by this time next year I’ll be gigging it a little bit.
Damn you.

I went over to the space tonight. Sweet jeebus I am in love with biamping [again]. Took the Tyler tube head listing down off reverb. I'm keeping that sucka. With the Behringer hm300 [hm-2 clone] in front of it and rhe GK in the biamp low mode. Holy. Hell. Guess the guitarist is going to have to find more room in his truck for my peavey 4x12 on gig days. :help:
 
Oh, one thing I forgot to mention: I had my first practice with the SVT-215E, and yeah, I'm in love. Where have you been all my life? It's supposedly the same cab shell as an 8x10 SVT of the same era, but it has different character than any of them I've played through, more than I would have expected. I'll haul this thing to most places. Even at low volumes (I had the SB300's master on umm, 2.4 or so), it thumps and growls. Hopefully the speakers can survive the idiocy I call a tone. Gotta keep an eye out for a backup like it just in case I cook one of them.

Or maybe I should just get the buzz in my SVT-410HLF fixed. Anyone got advice on tracking down an annoying farting buzz at around A out of one? Unless you're around that frequency, it sounds great. Until it developed that habit, that cab sounded 8/10ths as good as the SVT-215E. Loved that cab. If I could fix it, I'd sell my other two 4x10s. Yeah, don't mention how many cabs are running around the house, there's even more guitar cabs/amps. My wife asks periodically "Does that one even work?" Much like parents asking if their kid is on drugs that one week they haven't done a damn thing, the particular amp in question seems always to luckily be in perfect working condition. (Mental note, only store working amps in the living room).

My singer plays through a 2x10 Deluxe Reverb. It looks ridiculous sitting next to that thing.
 
I've found buzz to be either something major (thrashed voice coil or bent speaker frame) or something incredibly trivial (something vibrating like screws a little too loose or a poorly designed handle/grill cloth situation)

so the easiest is to tighten everything up, including the screws attaching the speaker to the baffle board. but not too tight. that could either warp the speaker frame or strip some wood screws
 
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Oh, one thing I forgot to mention: I had my first practice with the SVT-215E, and yeah, I'm in love. Where have you been all my life? It's supposedly the same cab shell as an 8x10 SVT of the same era, but it has different character than any of them I've played through, more than I would have expected. I'll haul this thing to most places. Even at low volumes (I had the SB300's master on umm, 2.4 or so), it thumps and growls. Hopefully the speakers can survive the idiocy I call a tone. Gotta keep an eye out for a backup like it just in case I cook one of them.

Or maybe I should just get the buzz in my SVT-410HLF fixed. Anyone got advice on tracking down an annoying farting buzz at around A out of one? Unless you're around that frequency, it sounds great. Until it developed that habit, that cab sounded 8/10ths as good as the SVT-215E. Loved that cab. If I could fix it, I'd sell my other two 4x10s. Yeah, don't mention how many cabs are running around the house, there's even more guitar cabs/amps. My wife asks periodically "Does that one even work?" Much like parents asking if their kid is on drugs that one week they haven't done a damn thing, the particular amp in question seems always to luckily be in perfect working condition. (Mental note, only store working amps in the living room).

My singer plays through a 2x10 Deluxe Reverb. It looks ridiculous sitting next to that thing.

If it’s really only one note that does it I would think it’s something loose. You just found the frequency that really exaggerates it. If that doesn’t work if you have a way to really zero in with eq you could just cut that frequency down some.
 
Damn you.

I went over to the space tonight. Sweet jeebus I am in love with biamping [again]. Took the Tyler tube head listing down off reverb. I'm keeping that sucka. With the Behringer hm300 [hm-2 clone] in front of it and rhe GK in the biamp low mode. Holy. Hell. Guess the guitarist is going to have to find more room in his truck for my peavey 4x12 on gig days. :help:

What’s the Tyler sound like? Do you keep it pretty clean and dirty it with pedals or just crank it super loud?

My guitarist just reworked his whole rig and downsized to a 210 Roland jazz chorus 40 and a couple new pedals. I’m pumped he is ditching some pretty meh sounding stuff for higher quality effects and getting his signal chain a little shorter.
 
Oh, one thing I forgot to mention: I had my first practice with the SVT-215E, and yeah, I'm in love. Where have you been all my life? It's supposedly the same cab shell as an 8x10 SVT of the same era, but it has different character than any of them I've played through, more than I would have expected. I'll haul this thing to most places. Even at low volumes (I had the SB300's master on umm, 2.4 or so), it thumps and growls. Hopefully the speakers can survive the idiocy I call a tone. Gotta keep an eye out for a backup like it just in case I cook one of them.

Or maybe I should just get the buzz in my SVT-410HLF fixed. Anyone got advice on tracking down an annoying farting buzz at around A out of one? Unless you're around that frequency, it sounds great. Until it developed that habit, that cab sounded 8/10ths as good as the SVT-215E. Loved that cab. If I could fix it, I'd sell my other two 4x10s. Yeah, don't mention how many cabs are running around the house, there's even more guitar cabs/amps. My wife asks periodically "Does that one even work?" Much like parents asking if their kid is on drugs that one week they haven't done a damn thing, the particular amp in question seems always to luckily be in perfect working condition. (Mental note, only store working amps in the living room).

My singer plays through a 2x10 Deluxe Reverb. It looks ridiculous sitting next to that thing.

I love 15's. So much. Uh, if its really just one note, is it one note played in one position? Its prob something hitting a resonant peak in the cab and shaking the crap out of something loose. On all the cheapo amps and cabs I've adopted over the years one of the first things I do is tear into em and reinforce all the joints inside of the cab and re-doing batting in there, etc. It helps.

Uh, late reply to the country thang... but its modern pop country, so not the most interesting stuff but it can be goofy and fun. My wife listens to a ton of that stuff, so I'm more familiar with it than a lot of people would expect...
 
I began to wonder with the way I use my 5 string Mikro bass, for my solo bass/drums/vocals psychedlic stoner/doom project, which is more as kind of a bass/guitar hybrid or Bass VI type instrument than as a traditional bass, with a lot of use of simple chords, if tuning it up would be a better option for me, especially since one of the the 2 tracks I created for this so far, the one with the working title "In Orbit", that utilize the low E, actually sounds a bit muddy.

So I used the pitchshifter that comes with my DAW Reaper to get an idea which tunings would work, and it seems like 3 semi tones up is the magical spot, which means that instead of tuning my 5 string E1 to C3 as I do now, I'd likely get a more useful result tuning it G1 to D3.

The G seems sufficiently low to get me plenty of low end when needed, any higher I found lacking bottom and resulting in it sounding too thin, and any lower it started to sound too muddy.

So I used D'Addario's online app, "String Tension Pro", for calculating string tension, to get a set that has similar tension to the one I use now when tuned in G to D.

I will of course need to buy the strings separate as single strings, and in order for the two highest strings to be reasonable balanced with the rest of the set tension wise I will have to use guitar strings for those, as bass strings doesn't come in the gauges that would fit the high A# and D, it won't be an issue though since the scale length of my bass is just 28,6", making guitar strings sufficiently long, and for the guitar string's ball ends to fit the bass bridge I will just need to cut off the ball ends of some old bass strings and then thread the guitar strings through those.

Really looking forward to try this new tuning out, as I think it will improve the functionality of my bass a lot for how I use it.

Not sure if I can really call it a bass anymore after tuning it G1 to D3 though, or it would be more correct to refer to it as a 5 string down tuned baritone guitar with wide string spacing.

I mean pitch wise it will be 1 semi tone closer to a baritone guitar in A standard tuning than a bass in E standard tuning.

Ended up deciding to just tune my bass 2 semi tones up to F# to D, instead of 3 to G to D#, as I first intended, since eventually I discovered that the G to D# tuning made it sound just a tad too thin, plus I'll have less open string sharp notes to deal with this way, with only the bottom F# string being sharp.

Gives me slightly more bottom end, and with my current gauge .100 to .032 set of strings there is still less tension put on the neck than had it been a 34" scale bass with same gauge of strings in regular E standard tuning, though I think I eventually will get a gauge .095 to .040 set, plus a separate gauge .030 string, and restring it to get the tension down to something closer resembling how my current set of strings felt in E standard tuning.

Glad I got the idea of tuning my bass up a bit, cause it makes my bass much more functional for how I use it, playing a lot of simple chords and harmonizing, often with several strings ringing at once, perhaps a bit more similar to how you would play a Bass VI type instrument or a baritone guitar, rather than how you'd traditionally play a bass.

I'll try to pull myself together to do another recording of the bass to the track "In Orbit" and post it later, to give you an idea of how much it has improved the overall sound of compositions utilizing the open lowest string for harmonizing, preventing it from getting muddy, but at the same time having sufficient bottom end to support my compositions when needed, and not sounding too thin in any way.
 
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