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Stoner/Doom Bassists Thread, Part 90: Maxed Out

my buddy took this in downtown SF...
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it's full on Mars out right now.
 
Question - looking at a small rig. What would be the volume difference between the same amp hooked up to a 410 vs a 210? I think I’ve found my amp, but the point is to be quieter so I can actually have time to practice without waking the kid or annoying the wife.
Depends if the impedance is the same as to whether you get a power bump from the amp (c.3db). I always get the numbers a bit wrong but I think you typically end up with a 2-3 dB volume increase and a notch in the low end as well. Depends if you're comparing the same brand/ speaker cabs, how you EQ.
I use a 210 at most rehearsals, sounds 'bigger' when I go 410 but volume stays in a similar position.
What are you considering? What's the application/use?
 
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Depends if the impedance is the same as to whether you get a power bump from the amp (c.3db). I always get the numbers a bit wrong but I think you typically end up with a 2-3 dB volume increase and a notch in the low end as well. Depends if you're comparing the same brand/ speaker cabs, how you EQ.
I use a 210 at most rehearsals, sounds 'bigger' when I go 410 but volume stays in a similar position.
What are you considering? What's the application/use?
Forgot o mention - same impedance. Both 8 ohm GK cabs. One is a Neo 410, the other will likely be something much cheaper used.

My single cab solution will likely be a Neo 112 which have great reviews all around, but are pricey used.
 
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When I use my Acme 210 at home it can get uncomfortably loud. For a home practice amp I've been using a Rumble 40 and even that gets louder than I need. I'm not a big fan of the Rumble's sound, so I've got a Peavey 208 on the way. So anyway, I'd say the 210 should be more than enough for home practice. If anything you might still find yourself wanting something smaller.
 
Yeah, I was worried about that. May end up getting a 112.

When I use my Acme 210 at home it can get uncomfortably loud. For a home practice amp I've been using a Rumble 40 and even that gets louder than I need. I'm not a big fan of the Rumble's sound, so I've got a Peavey 208 on the way. So anyway, I'd say the 210 should be more than enough for home practice. If anything you might still find yourself wanting something smaller.

I used a 112 Peavey combo for a while as a practice amp and that worked well, however I lent that to a friend shortly after I got my TKO as I like the tone of the TKO a lot more and it has a more flexible preamp.

I suspect a 112 cab might get you close but sometimes the response of the higher wattage amps through single speaker cabs can still be overwhelming.

In semi-related news I might move my Rumble 500 head on in favor of a GK or a quilter head, I like the tones/preamp sections in both a bit more and they're not nearly as scooped as the fender. I'm generally impressed with how stupid loud the fender is with a 115 and a 210 cab however, it'll drown out our drummer, guitar and PA with ease but the preamp is so damn hard to dial in.
 
I used a 112 Peavey combo for a while as a practice amp and that worked well, however I lent that to a friend shortly after I got my TKO as I like the tone of the TKO a lot more and it has a more flexible preamp.

I suspect a 112 cab might get you close but sometimes the response of the higher wattage amps through single speaker cabs can still be overwhelming.

In semi-related news I might move my Rumble 500 head on in favor of a GK or a quilter head, I like the tones/preamp sections in both a bit more and they're not nearly as scooped as the fender. I'm generally impressed with how stupid loud the fender is with a 115 and a 210 cab however, it'll drown out our drummer, guitar and PA with ease but the preamp is so damn hard to dial in.
I've got a GK MB Fusion 800 I could give you a good deal on. PM me if you're interested and I'll give you the details.
 
Question - looking at a small rig. What would be the volume difference between the same amp hooked up to a 410 vs a 210? I think I’ve found my amp, but the point is to be quieter so I can actually have time to practice without waking the kid or annoying the wife.

I have an old Carvin PB150 Single 10” 150watt Combo amp for around the house and even that drives my wife crazy.. lol. The speaker still moves enough air and travels enough at low volume to be heard in the other room. I End up using Mooer Radar with headphones or occasionally run it through a 5w amplifier and desktop speaker system I built years ago.
 
I have an old Carvin PB150 Single 10” 150watt Combo amp for around the house and even that drives my wife crazy.. lol. The speaker still moves enough air and travels enough at low volume to be heard in the other room. I End up using Mooer Radar with headphones or occasionally run it through a 5w amplifier and desktop speaker system I built years ago.
This points to the fundamental problem with trying to use a bass amp for home practice. We're dealing with sounds frequencies that, as a matter of physics, aren't well contained by stuff like drywall. So even a quiet volume for home practice can often easily be heard in another room. An extremely aggressive HPF might be more effective than smaller speakers, if the goal is to not disturb others in the house.

With great power comes great responsibility ;)
 
I have an old Carvin PB150 Single 10” 150watt Combo amp for around the house and even that drives my wife crazy.. lol. The speaker still moves enough air and travels enough at low volume to be heard in the other room. I End up using Mooer Radar with headphones or occasionally run it through a 5w amplifier and desktop speaker system I built years ago.
I also have a headphone setup, but it just doesn't do it... I need some air at least. I tried my old GK Backline 112 again today - farting out on low notes. Not gonna work.
 
I'll have to find a link to it, and some of you could probably just wire one up, but I found some guy on ebay that puts together a fairly nice passive hpf for cheap. I think I paid like $26 shipped and it's just a simple pot/cap set up similar to a G&L PTB circuit with an on/off switch in a small plastic enclosure. It's fixed, but does the job well. I got it mostly for the enclosure and plan on setting up a switch to roll different caps through, but can't beat the price for one that doesn't even need power to work. It helps immensely for at home lower volume practice.

When I use my Acme 210 at home it can get uncomfortably loud. For a home practice amp I've been using a Rumble 40 and even that gets louder than I need. I'm not a big fan of the Rumble's sound, so I've got a Peavey 208 on the way. So anyway, I'd say the 210 should be more than enough for home practice. If anything you might still find yourself wanting something smaller.

I've always wondered about those 2x8 cabs from peavey and fender.
 
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