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Stoner/Doom Bassists Thread, Part 90: Maxed Out

A funny thing happened...my Craigslist post generated some interest. I'm now at the beginning stages with two separate bands, and today I "had the talk" with the cover band I've been goofing with for the past year or so. It felt like I was breaking up with a girlfriend. I'm very ready to be out of that though. Playing with these new bands made me realize how much better I play when I'm playing with competent musicians. Not that I'm some virtuoso, but I think I just put more time into practicing than the people in the cover band so I accelerated a bit faster than them.

The two bands are very different, but both are really interesting to me. One is doomy, the other is like jazzy indie rock. Hopefully I won't be coming back here whining about one or both of them imploding anytime soon.
 
A funny thing happened...my Craigslist post generated some interest. I'm now at the beginning stages with two separate bands, and today I "had the talk" with the cover band I've been goofing with for the past year or so. It felt like I was breaking up with a girlfriend. I'm very ready to be out of that though. Playing with these new bands made me realize how much better I play when I'm playing with competent musicians. Not that I'm some virtuoso, but I think I just put more time into practicing than the people in the cover band so I accelerated a bit faster than them.

The two bands are very different, but both are really interesting to me. One is doomy, the other is like jazzy indie rock. Hopefully I won't be coming back here whining about one or both of them imploding anytime soon.

Awesome! I find that it’s cool to be in different bands of different genres. It keeps things fresh and interesting. I think it’s good for your chops. It allows you to play totally separate kinds music that take different sets of skills. (Plus it’s a really good excuse for more basses/different rigs!) And sometimes your can intermesh the genres and they can play off of eachother.

I like it when I come up with a riff or song idea it’s fun to go “which band can I use this one in?” I also am in a doom band and an alt rock/indie type band. At one time I was in death metal, doom, and alt rock. That was very diverse and fun and my chops were at an all-time high. I had to step away from the DM band though. With my two kids I couldn’t do the amount of woodshedding it took. That was a bummer but I digress.

Good luck with the new projects!
 
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Well, no, if anything it was too much definition on the high end. Crust plays a screen door spring tuned to (I think) B, and it sounded a lot like that.


You summoned me!
I worship this band so hard. :D

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I miss nowadays something like those absurd Trance Syndicate bands that I'm sure did not use hallucinogenic drugs at all.
 
You summoned me!
I worship this band so hard. :D

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I miss nowadays something like those absurd Trance Syndicate bands that I'm sure did not use hallucinogenic drugs at all.

HEeheheehehehe, I'm always amazed at how far the Trance Syndicate recordings traveled. Pretty much every band on that label ruled, but Crust and Cherubs were/are the most gloriously heavy of them. Their stage shows were amazing. The wiki entry on it describes them pretty well:

wikipedia said:
Crust achieved some notoriety for their stage antics, which frequently included live earthworms, fresh beef tongues, nudity, and fire.

The beef tounge was sewn into a g-string, and he'd whip it out and start slapping people in the face with it. I remember one show where they came out in costumes made from blow-up sex dolls and thrift store evening gowns, and another where Hawkins was rubbing raw pig ears all over himself. Ahh, good clean fun.

I can neither confirm nor deny that the performers were bathing in hallucinogens.

Just because I can't resist, here's another favorite from them:

 
HEeheheehehehe, I'm always amazed at how far the Trance Syndicate recordings traveled. Pretty much every band on that label ruled, but Crust and Cherubs were/are the most gloriously heavy of them. Their stage shows were amazing. The wiki entry on it describes them pretty well:




The beef tounge was sewn into a g-string, and he'd whip it out and start slapping people in the face with it. I remember one show where they came out in costumes made from blow-up sex dolls and thrift store evening gowns, and another where Hawkins was rubbing raw pig ears all over himself. Ahh, good clean fun.

Awwww I'm so jealous. Really. I adore this band, I have a cult for them. And sadly, never had the chance to see them live (I was lucky to see Cherubs on the other hand, although only recently. I agree they were among the best on that label! Also, Ed Hall!)

There is a Crust full show from back then on YouTube that I never get tired to watch


https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL1E19F0217E90D35A


John Hawkins was such a unique talent as a singer, with those absurdist "characters" he played. He was so perfect for that music, the icing on the craziness cake.

Butthole Surfers, Crust, No Trend (especially Tritonian Nash Vegas)... I have a soft spot for that surreal, hallucinated side of noise. It's my favorite actually. (I should start using drugs maybe 'cause it's not music I can conceive myself, but I'd really love to :smug:).




I can neither confirm nor deny that the performers were bathing in hallucinogens.

I can't confirm either, maybe there's just something in the running water in Austin :D

Btw

There is a band I found on RYM a few weeks ago that I ADORE and kind of reminds me of those old bands, not for the genre but for the attitude… It's a… grind/thrash/sludge/plunderphonics (!!!) thing, in the same estranging, humorous and weirdly apocalyptic vein IMO. And they're heavyyyy

I'm having a fixation for this record lately. Highly recommended!


The Cocaine Wars 1974-1989, by Crom


This one is really good as well, but Cocaine Wars is my favourite.

Hot Sumerian Nights, by Crom


(How can one NOT love this band, even for the artworks alone?? :roflmao:)
 
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Also, Ed Hall!

Jeebus, did you live in Texas at one time, or is the movement that I actually thought might take over the world at one time actually still have a chance? Will the broken psyche of crazy Texans who spent too much time ingesting psychedelics while spending too much time in the sun and possibly (ok, probably) consuming ethanol eventually find a way to break the world into a much weirder place? Maybe, it's a long shot, but it's a hill worthy of attempting to die on. Heck, technically I'm still trying to make it happen. Soldier on, soul brother!

[Guitarist Content Follows] I watched Gary Chester de-tune himself into the intro of this closer many times. I was still happy/sad when I heard it start. You knew it was the closer, because he's going to have to tune to get it anywhere near concert tuning, and I haven't seen the man use any pedals or a tuner. Wanna work your guitar like a dive-bomb whammy but you're playing a stop tailpiece Les Paul or Iceman? De-tune E and A mightily and go for it. [/Guitarist Content] Even though Larry had more high end in his tone and spent more time grooving above D than I would think prudent, he's a master. Plus, you would marvel at his dancing while coated in fluorescent paint.



They get special points in my heart for incorporating scattering bags of flour in their stage show as a cheapo visual effect, and stopping it when someone pointed out that the problem with that idea is that you're basically making an aerosol bomb. Slapping someone in the face with uncooked, poorly refrigerated beef is one thing, potentially blowing up a club or a house is another.

Hehehe, Crom. I had been only vaguely aware of them other than an absurd metal band that I kind of lumped in with Duh. But on further listen, dang, that's almost too clever for its own good. It's like the They Might Be Giants of metal. I'm still trying to wrap my head around the Pink Floyd reference in "Sons of Set" If I don't end up in some mental hole trying to explain them to myself, thanks!
 
Jeebus, did you live in Texas at one time, or is the movement that I actually thought might take over the world at one time actually still have a chance? Will the broken psyche of crazy Texans who spent too much time ingesting psychedelics while spending too much time in the sun and possibly (ok, probably) consuming ethanol eventually find a way to break the world into a much weirder place? Maybe, it's a long shot, but it's a hill worthy of attempting to die on. Heck, technically I'm still trying to make it happen. Soldier on, soul brother!

Unfortunately I have never even been in Texas… but if I undesterstand correctly you're from there? Or lived there back then? That place at the time, must have been so damn exctiting. All those bands from that scene were so interesting and unique. I'm jealous! :p


Maybe you heard about this recent band from Austin called Spray Paint? Oh, no need to mention they are WEIRD. They are from Austin after all




Love them!


BTW, I believe Trance Syndicate always had a cult following in the world, even back then… It even reached remote places like the town where I lived, with not even one single decent record store. Music magazines talked about it, even here in Italy.

Who gave me (and our friends) the chance to listen to Trance Syndicate records, was a friend who studied in Pisa, there was a great shop (and mailorder) there that was a dealer for many underground US labels, and he came back to his hometown on holidays, with his suitcase full of gems and good stuff! (he was the one who brought the AmRep stuff in our town as well...)
I still have the cassettes he made me with Drain, Pain Teens, Crust, Cherubs, Johnboy… even those I bought on vinyl or CD later :)

But I believe nowadays with the internet, even cult labels that don't exist anymore, like T.C., may live a second wave of popularity (although a niche popularity)... Countless bands I would have never known of, if it wasn't for Soulseek and RYM. And even bands I only "heard of" and never had the chance to listen before. I will never be done with filling in these gaps.

[Guitarist Content Follows] I watched Gary Chester de-tune himself into the intro of this closer many times. I was still happy/sad when I heard it start. You knew it was the closer, because he's going to have to tune to get it anywhere near concert tuning, and I haven't seen the man use any pedals or a tuner. Wanna work your guitar like a dive-bomb whammy but you're playing a stop tailpiece Les Paul or Iceman? De-tune E and A mightily and go for it. [/Guitarist Content] Even though Larry had more high end in his tone and spent more time grooving above D than I would think prudent, he's a master. Plus, you would marvel at his dancing while coated in fluorescent paint.



They get special points in my heart for incorporating scattering bags of flour in their stage show as a cheapo visual effect, and stopping it when someone pointed out that the problem with that idea is that you're basically making an aerosol bomb. Slapping someone in the face with uncooked, poorly refrigerated beef is one thing, potentially blowing up a club or a house is another.

I'm loving all these anecdotes and memories you're sharing… that place, at that time, is LEGEND to me.

Hehehe, Crom. I had been only vaguely aware of them other than an absurd metal band that I kind of lumped in with Duh. But on further listen, dang, that's almost too clever for its own good. It's like the They Might Be Giants of metal. I'm still trying to wrap my head around the Pink Floyd reference in "Sons of Set" If I don't end up in some mental hole trying to explain them to myself, thanks!

Someone on Bandcamp wrote they are like "Sun City Girls for metalheads". I don't think it's 100% spot on, to me it sounds more like Residents for metalheads, although more funny and less creepy.
(But I wish there was something like "Sun City Girls for metalheads". :woot::drool:)
 
Hey guys. So my Deluxe bass big muff crapped out on me yesterday and I wanted to see if any of y'all know how to fix it or what to do. Basically if I have the pedal powered off it fails to let the signal bypass and nothing comes out of my amp. If I power it on then the signal passes through w/ the effects of the pedal of course. On my muff there's also a second hpf/lpf(labeled Crossover) switch that has no effect unless the power(bypass) switch is on too. If I wiggle or twist the power switch I get some feedback so I believe the problem has something to do with that but I can't be sure. I use an ampeg BA210 and have all my effects in the effects loop and my pedals are daisy chained.
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PS. I still have the box with the warranty card in it. The card hasn't been touched so could I send in the card and say I got it from x- big music store and then send in the pedal sometime after?
 
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HAAY KIDZ i totally joined the PD7 bandwagon. I like it but I need to experiment more with stacking. Is this photo too yuuuuge? I'm trying to de-Google and it's hard as balls finding stuff that works as well to replace the evil Google ecosystem.


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Hell yeah! Welcome to the cult, er, team that is. Even though it preserves a lot of bass I've been liking mine blended with some clean signal. I like the distortion setting, with the treble cranked way up.
 
HAAY KIDZ i totally joined the PD7 bandwagon. I like it but I need to experiment more with stacking. Is this photo too yuuuuge? I'm trying to de-Google and it's hard as balls finding stuff that works as well to replace the evil Google ecosystem.


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#2 is stuck in the mail for me. Should have arrived yesterday.