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Stoner/Doom Bassists Thread, Part 90: Maxed Out
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sungrazer were pretty groovy. early orange goblin was too.
My experience with octavers is, you can't just kick them on and expect them to do everything they theoretically should. Approach your octaver as if it's a new instrument. You have to play it. Get used to its strong and weak points. Playing the same note on a different string can make a world of difference in how the octaver reacts. So does playing louder or softer. Experiment with mixing your dry signal; I rarely turn it fully off.
And yes, roundwounds with their richer harmonic content may not vie with a particular octaver. My life is simple, I play flatwounds.
(YawningJorin please don't take all this to mean I consider you a beginner, I'm just formulating some thoughts.)
And yes, roundwounds with their richer harmonic content may not vie with a particular octaver. My life is simple, I play flatwounds.
(YawningJorin please don't take all this to mean I consider you a beginner, I'm just formulating some thoughts.)
Great quote!
Oh not at all! I quite agree. On a very basic level, an octaver (save for analogue up maybe?) does not transform your signal electronically. It's a synthesiser and should be approached as an instrument played with another instrument.
I'd add Grand Magus to the list of "groovy doom". One of my favorites, and shared a vocalist with Spiritual Beggars for a while as well. Both solid bands.
Now, more pedal talk.
Spent more time tweaking my Swollen Pickle today (yeah, I said it, and I'm not ashamed). I got it incredibly close to the Pharaoh Supreme, and many times had to look at the board to see which pedal I was currently playing. There were slight differences in lows and aggressiveness, but otherwise, I don't think anybody would notice which one I was playing. I have also found that the Pickle reacts differently to different amps, even though my amps are very closely related (GK 400RB and 700RB). Going from one to the other required minor tweaks. In general, the Pharaoh is slightly more aggressive in its dirt character, but not much, and the Pickle is slightly smoother in its lows, though again, not much. It's definitely splitting hairs, and I think either would work for the same scenarios.
I also played around more with my PD-7s, and I think they've officially replaced my HM-2s and B3Ks on my boards. They're just too good. I can get pretty much identical tones to my B3Ks by just reducing gain, and the saturation on the lows is incomparable. Both B3Ks and HM-2s are staying around for now, but it's wild that the B3K is officially off the board. It's been my longest serving pedal at about a decade, and I didn't think it would ever fall. But here we are.
EDIT - I'd add that it would be really cool to have some sort of PD-7 clone made. Having the ability to go from "Clean" to "OD" would be amazing. I played around with the "Clean" setting today, and it livened up my tone in all the right ways, without tweaking a single knob. Going from "Clean" to "OD" with a bypass footswitch would be amazing.
The Iron Pig also sounds great on guitar, though I don't need that tone. Gonna keep it around if I ever need a RAT.
Finally, the Rhino is great on guitar, though not quite gainy enough to replace my OCD clone (EHX Glove). I didn't think it would, but it can definitely do classic rock or blues guitar no problem. It's a perfectly good OD tone, just not better for my current usage than the OCD. Additionally, the Pickle is solid on guitar, but not aggressive like the Pharaoh. Of course, I didn't tweak it as much. I'm sure the tone is in there. It's just a bit odd that the Pharaoh has almost identical settings on my guitar and bass, and sound amazing, yet almost identical settings on the Pickle between guitar and bass sound totally different. The bass sounds amazing, but the guitar would require more tweaking to get the same sound. Again, though, totally usable fuzz for guitar.
Now I've got to figure out what to do with all of these "extra" pedals I have. I'm thinking of making a general purpose guitar bass combo board. Use the Rhino for low-gain tones for both, getting another Pickle for double duty, using one of my displaced Throat Locusts for HM-2 tones, and throw on a delay just because. Of course, doing this would necessitate a small rig for guitar and bass... and I just downsized. Oh GAS, you cruel mistress you.
Now, more pedal talk.
Spent more time tweaking my Swollen Pickle today (yeah, I said it, and I'm not ashamed). I got it incredibly close to the Pharaoh Supreme, and many times had to look at the board to see which pedal I was currently playing. There were slight differences in lows and aggressiveness, but otherwise, I don't think anybody would notice which one I was playing. I have also found that the Pickle reacts differently to different amps, even though my amps are very closely related (GK 400RB and 700RB). Going from one to the other required minor tweaks. In general, the Pharaoh is slightly more aggressive in its dirt character, but not much, and the Pickle is slightly smoother in its lows, though again, not much. It's definitely splitting hairs, and I think either would work for the same scenarios.
I also played around more with my PD-7s, and I think they've officially replaced my HM-2s and B3Ks on my boards. They're just too good. I can get pretty much identical tones to my B3Ks by just reducing gain, and the saturation on the lows is incomparable. Both B3Ks and HM-2s are staying around for now, but it's wild that the B3K is officially off the board. It's been my longest serving pedal at about a decade, and I didn't think it would ever fall. But here we are.
EDIT - I'd add that it would be really cool to have some sort of PD-7 clone made. Having the ability to go from "Clean" to "OD" would be amazing. I played around with the "Clean" setting today, and it livened up my tone in all the right ways, without tweaking a single knob. Going from "Clean" to "OD" with a bypass footswitch would be amazing.
The Iron Pig also sounds great on guitar, though I don't need that tone. Gonna keep it around if I ever need a RAT.
Finally, the Rhino is great on guitar, though not quite gainy enough to replace my OCD clone (EHX Glove). I didn't think it would, but it can definitely do classic rock or blues guitar no problem. It's a perfectly good OD tone, just not better for my current usage than the OCD. Additionally, the Pickle is solid on guitar, but not aggressive like the Pharaoh. Of course, I didn't tweak it as much. I'm sure the tone is in there. It's just a bit odd that the Pharaoh has almost identical settings on my guitar and bass, and sound amazing, yet almost identical settings on the Pickle between guitar and bass sound totally different. The bass sounds amazing, but the guitar would require more tweaking to get the same sound. Again, though, totally usable fuzz for guitar.
Now I've got to figure out what to do with all of these "extra" pedals I have. I'm thinking of making a general purpose guitar bass combo board. Use the Rhino for low-gain tones for both, getting another Pickle for double duty, using one of my displaced Throat Locusts for HM-2 tones, and throw on a delay just because. Of course, doing this would necessitate a small rig for guitar and bass... and I just downsized. Oh GAS, you cruel mistress you.
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I actually just edited my post - I really enjoyed going from "Clean" to "OD". Identical settings on both just brought my bass alive. It would be awesome to have a footswitch to go from one to the other.
Interesting. I actually haven't messed with the clean mode much. The one I have in OD mode, though, has the drive at zero, so maybe that's similar to the effect you're getting in clean mode? I dunno.
We need the JHS guy to talk up the PD7 in one of his videos and then people will start getting interested and cloning them. (Though that would also unfortunately drive the price up.) If he says it's good for guitar they'll become cool immediately
Noooo, no. No. We don't need inflated prices! I was thinking that somebody out there could just make a clone with a footswitch to go between "Clean" and "OD". Don't need the "Attack" settings myself. All I know is that the "Clean" setting really made my bass shine. Livened it up in all the right ways.Interesting. I actually haven't messed with the clean mode much. The one I have in OD mode, though, has the drive at zero, so maybe that's similar to the effect you're getting in clean mode? I dunno.
We need the JHS guy to talk up the PD7 in one of his videos and then people will start getting interested and cloning them. (Though that would also unfortunately drive the price up.) If he says it's good for guitar they'll become cool immediately
I can't play flats, they have a totally different sound and don't match with anything I do
I'm almost tempted to try again with a cheap one such as the Boss OC-3 (even tho I shouldn't really spend money in gear right now...)
Any experience with that?
I only play flats on my fretless now, but I had an OC-3 for a while. My opinion is bias I’m sure because I had an Octabvre mkiii at the same time. I found the OC-3 lackluster by comparison, aside from the neat distortion part of the pedal which really wasn’t über useable. I want an Octabvre mkii Tim Tuned, and would probably never buy another octave if I ever got it. A few of the octave settings on the hx work well though. Still always need just one more pedal, right? Or two. Three.... Damn it......
excellent suggestions, might I add my favorite live band of all time CHURCH OF MISERY. Their bassist is also a phenomenal ripper who somehow plays with his bass slung to his ankles.
Please don't buy gear now and die of starvation. We need you alive here.
Unrelated note - I hate grounding issues in basses... One of mine continually develops a hum after a few months. Got it checked out about two months ago, and now it's back. Definitely exacerbated by my pedalboard, and by specific cables, but my other basses are perfectly quiet no matter the rig! So annoying.
Here's my comprehensive 2020 playlist: 2020 Jamz, a playlist by heathen303 on Spotify
It's a lot, but there's a lot of good music all the way through the end.
It's a lot, but there's a lot of good music all the way through the end.
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I'm using the bandcamp app a lot to listen, so my Apple Music top 10 doesn't really reflect my taste 
Edit: nothing against Streetlight Manifesto, but I listened to their album one time, and since then there is always a song in my weekly playlists of Apple. Of course it will make the top ten that way!
Edit: nothing against Streetlight Manifesto, but I listened to their album one time, and since then there is always a song in my weekly playlists of Apple. Of course it will make the top ten that way!
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With the PD-7 spiking in popularity, the Dunwich/Magic Mojo still having no set release date and me really craving a Model T equivalent of the Dunwich DA120 or at least something along those lines, I can't help but wonder if it's time for me to start diving into pedal design. But I've got way too many projects going on at once. This weekend I've been working on both a fight stick (almost done!!) and assembled a 3D printer. I love engineering but whew I'm knee deep in five things at once
In related news of doing way too many things at once I just installed a KRK 10S subwoofer. It's grand but it's late so I can't exactly play it loud yet for better calibration to my room. As it stands currently I feel I'm losing some of the high bass. Phase inversion seems to have helped a bit but I need to find the right crossover frequency and level. Also build a bypass switch...
I think that also marks the end of my GAS autumn, but that's probably a lie since I can already tell I need to make an order for some parts to build the mentioned switch, as well as finish my monster muff that's been lying around since early summer.
In related news of doing way too many things at once I just installed a KRK 10S subwoofer. It's grand but it's late so I can't exactly play it loud yet for better calibration to my room. As it stands currently I feel I'm losing some of the high bass. Phase inversion seems to have helped a bit but I need to find the right crossover frequency and level. Also build a bypass switch...
I think that also marks the end of my GAS autumn, but that's probably a lie since I can already tell I need to make an order for some parts to build the mentioned switch, as well as finish my monster muff that's been lying around since early summer.
tentacle is basically an armstrong green ringer, so octave fuzz that also gets ring modulator sounds
hyperfuzz has the octave in both modes 1 and 2. the difference is in gain and tone shaping between the two. boost mode bypasses the superfuzz section though (and is really the only useful mode for me. the other two sound awful to my ears)
