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Stoner/Doom Bassists Thread, Part 90: Maxed Out

Got the last (hopefully) of my December pedal binge in. Matt does some insanely cool pedals, I need to pick up everything he does someday. I already reached out about if he can just keep me on some perma-list for mystery effects.

Heheh, I reached out to him about the 2022 Mystery Effects list recently. He just said to get/stay on his mailing list. He's going to limit the number of them this go-round to keep the releases closer to the expected dates, and will prioritize mailing list members for the available slots.

I've spent maybe 2min with the Kool filter but it's similar to a graphic EQ, boost/cut etc. Great center points for sure. I think there's more to it, but I haven't had much time.

I literally opened the mailer for mine about 45 minutes ago, and haven't had time to plug it in yet. Oddly, I was just about to start looking for an EQ pedal. So, that's very nice. I'm a complete pirate hooker for good design, though, and it surely pushes those buttons hard. I might not plug it in before I go to bed, but I'm likely to play with it for at least a minute or two before I work tomorrow morning.

My year-end reviews? (yeah, it's almost all old, but I just got ahold of it recently)

Hits:
Behringer Bass BDI 21 - it's supposed to be a SansAmp Bass Driver clone. I've never owned one of those, but for $35, it made home recording of bass tracks easy as hell. I'm still pumping it's output through a tube preamp and a cab sim, but it makes getting "rock bass sound" almost brainless, and it seems flexible enough to get a lot of other sounds, as well.

IdiotBox Effects' WhataPhaser - It was a a mystery effect, but wow, it's nice sounding. I haven't found a particular use for it (just haven't written a song where a phaser's needed or particularly useful since I received it), but I still just plug it in to enjoy the sounds it makes when I'm playing through it. That enjoyment alone is worth the price of admission.

Zvex Fuzzalo - I got this because my singer bought it, used it, and then made it easy for someone to run over his pedal board. I replaced the switch, and he decided he didn't really want it anymore, so I inherited it after repairing it. It's a nasty, nasty, nasty fuzz. Only controls are pulse width and volume, the volume knob on your guitar is the fuzz control. It's a good pedal, but you gotta watch yourself with it. It's easy to get it more saturated than you mean to.

Caline Crazy Cacti - a $40 copy of a Fulltone Fulldrive 2. I've used it on both bass and guitar tracks, and have been quite happy with both after tweaking the knobs and switches. It is flexible. If you want to own one $40 overdrive, you should probably grab that one.

Misses:
Really, only one: The Caline Action Replay Distortion. I didn't like it's low end sound on guitar, much less bass. It's a pity, because I kind of like a lot of the high end distortion it generates.

The Jury is still out:
Hmm. Maybe the other mystery effects this year, and a few of the others from the previous series. I can get the Space Yo-Yo to sound like a normal delay, but man, that feels like I'm selling it short. The same with the Gargalactic Blaster. I can make it sound in the neighborhood of a normal fuzz - but I've got that already, and that surely isn't what that pedal was made to do. I need to open up my composition and playing to utilize them in the way the electrons intended! Or, maybe not necessarily the way the electrons intended, but to utilize them best on the paths they were going to semi-deterministically employ? Ehh, it gets worse the more precisely I try to describe it. I'm not good enough to use them, yet.



As to places to live: Heh, I've lived in the DFW area my whole life. I may move away, but it will be a surprise to me. It's not because I love the place in any particular visual way - dry prairie is somehow less visually appealing than scrub desert. But I know it, it's the briar patch. If you come here for vacation and you don't have family here, I question your ability to scope out vacation spots. But it is a decent place to live if you can stomach a December high temp being in spitting distance of a Michigan August day - our August days being somewhere between that and 110F with silly humidity. Plus, the sky is capable of doing a random dance of trying to open up and trying to kill you. Oh, and it's very flat in most places, so you can drive at ludicrous speeds and not get pulled over too often if you're somewhat careful. It takes forever to get anywhere in this state, and the cops seem to understand that, up to a point.

I keep describing the place in those terms, and people keep moving here nonetheless. It's friggin' loony here, and if you move here you will become more loony whether you notice or not. Even though it's my home state and I love it, I see that as an inevitable result. I don't know if it's the weather or the water.
 
Anybody do anything doomy for the solstice AKA heathen christmas of old? I was gonna, but it was cold. And dark. I always think I should spend the night outside drinking by a fire, but I’m sober, so…
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Hopefully not jinxing it by posting this bc I haven’t done it yet, but humbly hoping that the relatively high probability that I will finally get to try a natural psychedelic tomorrow with some friends and my Spouse will come to fruition…

Would be lying if I didn’t admit that I’m just a little bit fearful not knowing what to expect, but doing my best to prepare mentally for that and humbly hoping it will happen…

Thanks! \m/
 
It's 'Murican for either:

A message to someone ("give me a holler if you need help putting up that pole barn"), sometimes specifically yelling/shouting ("when i holler, you come a runnin")

or

Any sort of dip/depression in the ground ("let's chase them city boys down into the holler")
:D

I grew up next to people from Yorkshire (and Australia, come to think of it). At any rate, I was thinking on the lines of your first interpretation, not so much the second.

In short: Any of you around eastern Switzerland? Please say so, would love to meet you and show you around, time permitting.

Also – hey, merry Christmas and whatnot, should you celebrate! Take care, doom on, and hopefully doom a lot more next year than this year’s pandemic situation allowed for. Take care, and stay safe.
 
Got one of those cheap mini DOD250/MXR Distortion+ boxes as a gift today. Gotta say, I'm impressed. I've always liked - and wanted to love - the DOD250, but have never quite bonded with it (I think I've owned it three times, plus a clone or two). This iteration seems a bit sweeter on the high end, which I like. After a bit of noodling, it compares favorably to my modded Pork Loin on bass and my OD Glove on guitar. It won't replace either of them, but it could easily play the part if needed. The MXR half is a bit lacking in my opinion, as I just don't like the rougher distortion tone it has, but the DOD part is great. And, since it's so cheap, I don't feel like I'm missing anything even if it just sits with my extra pedals. May be my "keeper" of all the DOD250s I've tried.

Any of you getting or anticipating any gear this season? I think this is likely the only thing I'm getting, though I may be sealing a few deals on some pedals I've been trying to sell locally, which may mean I finally get an Atreides (for bass/guitar) or a FatMetal Pro (for guitar). Time will tell.

Hope all is well with everyone else here tonight!
 
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I got some new pedals, and wow, my wife sure knows what I like. I haven't been playing with them for very long yet, but if I had them before my previous post, I would think they are both solid hits for this year.

The Surfybear is a true spring reverb. In the hour I've had it out of the box, it's incredible. I like it better than a Fender outboard unit. Heck, I like it better than any spring type reverb I've ever heard. I can't wait to run the pedal steel through it. I'm considering moving it to after the pedal I'm using for a preamp, just because that's the place the reverb would traditionally be. But even before the preamp, it sounds dandy.

The Deathray is a square wave fuzz. Totally nasty. Even if it didn't sound great, I'd love it because the eyes are the diodes that are doing the clipping. So they flash on and off while you drive it. I'm a sucker for novelty. On top of that, it's got an expression pedal input that allows you to control the frequency of the square wave divider for funkiness.

I also got some GC gift cards, and considering I got these two pedals, I have no idea what I want to spend them on. I should probably get something utilitarian, like a keyboard stand or rack for my two smaller keyboards.

Definitely been a good Christmas for an atheist like myself. I hope everyone else is having a happy holiday season!
 
Oooh, the Surfy bear tempts me so much! I love the demos I've heard, but those were mostly guitar. Good to hear it's also OK on bass :D

Hehehe, I had only tried it on guitar before, but I've since plugged the bass in. As long as you keep the mix control below 3/4 of the way up, it totally works on bass for me, no matter what the other settings are. After that, you do get the ping trails that are the signature of spring reverb pretty clearly. I really love that sound on guitar, but I normally find it kind of distracting on bass. Even then, it could be used as a sound effect, and you have two mixes to pick from, so you could switch.

I've also plugged my own expression pedal into the Deathray (I was using a friend's before). Oh my. The wider range of my expression pedal turns the frequency divider to a murderous wah. I think it's actually wider than the range of the knob on the pedal. Dang, I might cuddle this pedal when I go to bed.

Edited to add: Dang, if I'm assaulting the Surfybear with the Deathray and using the expression pedal, umm, expressionisticaly, I don't mind the pings with the mix knob all the way up. So, yeah, no reservations on it as a bass reverb for me, depending on what frequencies you're clobbering it with.
 
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Hopefully not jinxing it by posting this bc I haven’t done it yet, but humbly hoping that the relatively high probability that I will finally get to try a natural psychedelic tomorrow with some friends and my Spouse will come to fruition…

Would be lying if I didn’t admit that I’m just a little bit fearful not knowing what to expect, but doing my best to prepare mentally for that and humbly hoping it will happen…

Thanks! \m/
Winner! Winner!
Yulerrific! There’s speculation about reindeer, fly agaric mushrooms, their pee and origins, history, legend and myth. Better than new socks and a tin of mixed nuts.
 
Merry Christmas Morning, everybody.

Any of you getting or anticipating any gear this season? I think this is likely the only thing I'm getting, though I may be sealing a few deals on some pedals I've been trying to sell locally, which may mean I finally get an Atreides (for bass/guitar) or a FatMetal Pro (for guitar). Time will tell.

Yup!

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Looking forward to reducing my board's size some – and making the power situation easier; this one will (probably) replace the Diamond on my main board. No more polarity reversal cable and the chaos underboard associated with it.

Incidentially, anybody have a suggestion for an opto-like and/or Stoner-worthy tone print?

Also got a Gator pedalboard bag, and a kickstand for my Ampeg Rocketbass (the old, heavy one). Must say, this Christmas has turned out to be very bass-centric for me.
 
Any of you getting or anticipating any gear this season?
I bought myself an Ibanez SRMS800 for my birthday, and an Alexander F.13 flanger recently. Not really expecting anything else unless my cats figure out how to order from Sweetwater.

In the foreseeable future I need to get some new hard drives because I've just about filled up what I'm currently working with.

That about sums up my holiday season.

Edit: The metronome app on my phone just wished me merry christmas so I've got that going for me, which is nice.
 
The mini DOD250 seems to be my only gear-related item this season (except some GHS Fast Fret my wife bought to replace my decade-old one). Still, it's a solid mini-addition! It's a week or so out, but I'm going to try to Talk less Bass and Play more Bass in the next year, as well as really try to get back into working out. Between Covid, working virtually, and taking my master's classes online, I've spent most of the last two years sitting at a computer, and it's showing.

Anybody else thinking about New Year's stuff or is it just me?
 
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It's been a hell of a year, hell of a 4th quarter even. I feel like I upgraded a lot as a whole throughout the year, but my pedal volume and whats going in and out the door has way ballooned. I gotta walk back through the room.

Hits:
#1 Without a doubt, SS Stingray sterling by MM. 100% worth it, sound is fantastic, feel is immensely good, neck is outstanding, string response somehow feels closer to a long scale than any shortie I've tried. The JMJ and wattplower the only others close. Might have to get another for my kids cuz I just wanna keep this one. Hope they'll still let me use it.

RCO, absolute rock solid work, so glad I dived in. Gotta buckle down and work with him, he's open to requests and collabs. Eitherway the Life Pedal and Black Ash clones are sick and have worked their way on my board(s) in one way or another.

Whataphaser, Space Yoyo, Spires, Fooz, SD-2, Hizumitas. All were either big surprises or nailed what I was looking for. I dig how all the mystery effects are so good, even if not exactly something I'm looking for, that I feel like I need to use em. That or find someone who will and not keep it on a shelf. The Fooz honestly could/would be a desert island pedal for me.

Misses: Vezzpa, Disnortion micro, Reverb cables, Bass Driver, how long winded I am. The cables aren't bad, and when they're on sale for $2e they're worth it for the practice room, but my kids have wrecked em quick unlike my livewire and hosa cables. They also tangle worse than typical pvc covered cables.

Vezzpa was sweet and I love how the two fuzzes can be operated and sound, but something seemed off. Not for bass, maybe I need to give it a go on Guitar or maybe with a clean blend.

Disnortion story seemed the same a Vezzpa. The filter is awesome, but it seemed to fizzle with the input I fed it...I rushed moving that on to be honest.

Bass driver wasn't bad, just not better than what I already had.

Jury's out to lunch: Atreides, DF-7, Mostortion, Fever Dream, Garglactic Blaster, Kool Filter, Ashdown BTA, fuzz assumption.

Absolutely love the Atreides and messing with it. It's on my board, but the couple times I jammed with others, I needed to really adjust to the room and mix. Was a little difficult, but the pedal is so much fun, it's really a winner for the year.

The DF-7 and mostortion I need to spend more time with. They are both fantastic and almost Swiss army knives. I see the DF-7 being possibly a pain to use for more than one setting during a set. Where it'll really shine is saving time and space in a studio. Mostortion I like a lot, just haven't really dug into it.

Garglactic and Kool I want to keep and likely will both. Like @scabpicker said, they make me want to find a way to use em beyond conforming to what I want. I have an idea for em though.

Fever Dream I haven't even tried yet. I am a bit nervous and I didn't realize the lack of return policy...likely gonna take a bath on it, which sucks but oh well.

Fuzz assumption is absolutely awesome, but got ta figure out space because of its size. And what settings to use normally..

the BTA I didnt realize was this year that it came in technically. Amazing amp, but I'll be honest, not sure if it'll be the always go to. With how close the ABM gets there will definitely be shows where I would opt for it over the BTA. Nothing wrong with that though.

All this kinda led me to that I need to restart my small board. Enough to cover some bases. I'll have to post when I get it together, but:

Space Yoyo, Garglactic, Fooz or Atreides, Kool Filter, fuzz assumption, and something like a CF7.
 
Winner! Winner!
Yulerrific! There’s speculation about reindeer, fly agaric mushrooms, their pee and origins, history, legend and myth. Better than new socks and a tin of mixed nuts.

Best college course I ever took. "Drugs for religious experience " was the name of the class. I still wonder to this day what got them to think, "hmm we should drink this deer piss to trip balls, since eating them shrooms straight up will kill us." Chem with Religion minor, always thought it was weird, but the history/study of religions is so cool.

The mini DOD250 seems to be my only gear-related item this season (except some GHS Fast Fret my wife bought to replace my decade-old one). Still, it's a solid mini-addition! It's a week or so out, but I'm going to try to Talk less Bass and Play more Bass in the next year, as well as really try to get back into working out. Between Covid, working virtually, and taking my master's classes online, I've spent most of the last two years sitting at a computer, and it's showing.

Anybody else thinking about New Year's stuff or is it just me?

I am for sure, got so many things I need to really step up on. Biggest one is to figure out how to balance work. I'm close, but I do get tied up sometimes. I've gotten away from keeping in shape too, but I get it between covid blowing up indoor sports, having a 3rd kid (and all 3 being so young), and moving, me and the lady haven't had time for squat. Luckily my work is active enough that I haven't gotten too bad.

Only other thing, is now that I got a solid workshop, I want to finish my "final" prototype, get a decent CNC router, farm out the rendering (unless I get time to figure it out), and make a small batch. I doubt I'll even get to the CNC next year, but if that's the last piece, then I'm okay with that.