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Stoner/Doom Bassists Thread, Part 90: Maxed Out
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Sure, we don't care. Back in the day, this was the Wild West of TB. Lots of fun. Then a few people started to troll the Praise and Worship thread and then the mod hammer came down.
Nah. We're not total miscreants. It's more like the 5-6 guys who all hang together after school and on weekends, doing...stuff...and listening to music while enjoying...stuff...and just flapping their gums in a good way. And maybe play some hackey sack and eat pizza while doing...stuff.
Say what you will about the tenets of the stoner/doom thread but at least there's no tort.
I'll have you know I was a great student on the occasions I wasn't skipping class! I'm just here most of all because it's a cool bunch who share my interests in terms of style and can get what I'm going for with my high gain hijinx and subcontra shenanigans.
Quilter/arkham/halberd
here ya go, only took a couple minutes. Pretty straight forward, clean, halberd, longsword, reverb.
not sure why but it starts at the 25 sec mark
I was nearly a straight A student... Dang math... And I AM a teacher... But I was certainly never a "cool kid". I most definitely hung out with those who understood that school was only a means to an end. My graduating class was known for having no school spirit to speak of at rallies. We didn't care about superficial stuff as a whole. We just wanted to enjoy ourselves and get out of high school and on with our lives.
Anyway, got off work today early, which was unexpected, and the Supercollider I bought came a few days early, which was also unexpected. So in my extra time, I continued the months long fuzz shootout. Got the Musket, Pharaoh Supreme, Supercollider, and Swollen Pickle together and tweaked like crazy while jamming along to old Metallica. I'm slowly amassing a collection of muffs to rival my collection of HM-2s... Then it's time for Rats! (Someone, please, stop me! It's a cry for help of some sort, I'm sure.)
We'll see where I end up, but the Supercollider seems too gainy for my tastes thus far - which is what I recalled from 8 years or so ago when I had one. But my tastes have changed, so I gave it another go. Not bad, but not what I'm looking for in a bass fuzz. Perhaps guitar? The Musket was once again tweaked like crazy, and I think I've got it somewhere I like, but we'll see tomorrow when I can jam again. I just finished tweaking it a few minutes ago, but it was at low volume since the kiddo is already sleeping. The Supercollider and Musket are more alike than different (besides just being muffs), and while I like them both, they aren't as easy to dial in as my other muffs. They seem very compressed, and in the mix you can hear them well, but really you only hear the compressed bass and not the grit itself. While it's very present in the mix, it doesn't sound like "fuzz" in the mix. Not sure how I feel about that. They also don't play as well with my flats. They overly compress everything, and I get odd sorts of squeaky grunts in the attack of the distortion.
The Pharaoh Supreme is still #1, and the Swollen Pickle is still #2. I got the Pickle to pretty much nail the Pharaoh's tone again tonight, which is awesome. They both seem more "open". I'll apologize in trying to verbalize tone. I'm terrible at it. But the compressed lows only coming through is not a problem for these two. You get the bass tone present in the mix, as well as hearing the dirt too. Love them both.
Where's all this going? Well, here it is: what are other muff-derivatives that have the same open tonal qualities as the Pickle and Pharaoh? I don't really want high gain, as those tones never sound right to me for bass. And the mids knobs don't seem too important to me as long as I can get a flat mid response (which both the Pickle and Pharaoh are capable of). I'm hoping the Grey Stache falls into that category, because it should be arriving tomorrow. I'll hopefully continue the shootout then. If not, maybe I'll pick up another standard Pharaoh. I'm currently using SIL diodes, so the only control I can't replicate exactly would be the "pre" knob on the Supreme, but I'm sure the lo setting would be close enough.
I also took a few minutes to make my Cat Tail sound as close as possible to my Iron Pig. While the Cat Tail doesn't quite have the same heft to it, I got incredibly close. I'm thinking it's the lack of a clean blend on the Cat Tail. May have to get one added some time. Anybody know what kind of blend it is that Fuzzrocious uses? I may try and hack one in myself if I'm feeling adventurous.
Anyway, thanks as always for putting up with my ramblings. Keep on doomin' and whatnot.
Anyway, got off work today early, which was unexpected, and the Supercollider I bought came a few days early, which was also unexpected. So in my extra time, I continued the months long fuzz shootout. Got the Musket, Pharaoh Supreme, Supercollider, and Swollen Pickle together and tweaked like crazy while jamming along to old Metallica. I'm slowly amassing a collection of muffs to rival my collection of HM-2s... Then it's time for Rats! (Someone, please, stop me! It's a cry for help of some sort, I'm sure.)
We'll see where I end up, but the Supercollider seems too gainy for my tastes thus far - which is what I recalled from 8 years or so ago when I had one. But my tastes have changed, so I gave it another go. Not bad, but not what I'm looking for in a bass fuzz. Perhaps guitar? The Musket was once again tweaked like crazy, and I think I've got it somewhere I like, but we'll see tomorrow when I can jam again. I just finished tweaking it a few minutes ago, but it was at low volume since the kiddo is already sleeping. The Supercollider and Musket are more alike than different (besides just being muffs), and while I like them both, they aren't as easy to dial in as my other muffs. They seem very compressed, and in the mix you can hear them well, but really you only hear the compressed bass and not the grit itself. While it's very present in the mix, it doesn't sound like "fuzz" in the mix. Not sure how I feel about that. They also don't play as well with my flats. They overly compress everything, and I get odd sorts of squeaky grunts in the attack of the distortion.
The Pharaoh Supreme is still #1, and the Swollen Pickle is still #2. I got the Pickle to pretty much nail the Pharaoh's tone again tonight, which is awesome. They both seem more "open". I'll apologize in trying to verbalize tone. I'm terrible at it. But the compressed lows only coming through is not a problem for these two. You get the bass tone present in the mix, as well as hearing the dirt too. Love them both.
Where's all this going? Well, here it is: what are other muff-derivatives that have the same open tonal qualities as the Pickle and Pharaoh? I don't really want high gain, as those tones never sound right to me for bass. And the mids knobs don't seem too important to me as long as I can get a flat mid response (which both the Pickle and Pharaoh are capable of). I'm hoping the Grey Stache falls into that category, because it should be arriving tomorrow. I'll hopefully continue the shootout then. If not, maybe I'll pick up another standard Pharaoh. I'm currently using SIL diodes, so the only control I can't replicate exactly would be the "pre" knob on the Supreme, but I'm sure the lo setting would be close enough.
I also took a few minutes to make my Cat Tail sound as close as possible to my Iron Pig. While the Cat Tail doesn't quite have the same heft to it, I got incredibly close. I'm thinking it's the lack of a clean blend on the Cat Tail. May have to get one added some time. Anybody know what kind of blend it is that Fuzzrocious uses? I may try and hack one in myself if I'm feeling adventurous.
Anyway, thanks as always for putting up with my ramblings. Keep on doomin' and whatnot.
thanks dude! I think I’m bringing it tonight to try out a new drummer.
Grey Stache came in. All I can say is, I waited FAR too long to get one. It's exactly what I was wanting for fuzz. No nonsense, just the right mix of aggression and compression to sit in the mix. The second I played it I knew that the Musket and Supercollider were done. Even made me tweak my Pharaoh Supreme slightly to get a bit more aggression in its tone! I'm a happy bass player today. That is all. Back to jamming!
Your posts inspired me to finally do an in-depth fuzz shootout. I think I'll make the long post in the Fuzz addict thread, but in brief: I really like the Pickle too, and considering what it usually sells for, and the amount of tones you can get with it, it's gotta be one of the best values for a Big Muff. MKIIS is the version I have.
But, my favorites are the Bluebeard and Magick Fuzz. Bluebeard with tone bypassed has that "open" sound you're talking about, which I equate with headroom. It also has absolutely massive, warm low end, like the hugest bass I've heard out of a fuzz pedal. Magick has fat bass as well, but more upper mids, and there's something about the way it cuts through a mix that just sounds wonderful to me.
Magick sounds closer to the Pickle than Bluebeard. I'd say the Pickle has a nastier, "spittier" midrange, whereas the Magick is "crunchier" and tuned a little lower overall.
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