did you sand down the cabs and all of that jive or just rip the fur off and paint?
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Stoner/Doom Bassists Thread, Part 90: Maxed Out
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did you sand down the cabs and all of that jive or just rip the fur off and paint?
I’ll echo cornfarmer. Schroeder makes very nice cabs, especially if you can overlook the visual aesthetics. The newer ones have a better logo though. I have a 212210 model from then and it did the impossible: replace my SWR Goliaths. The single 12s and 15s are just as good from my experience.
About the tweeter, it’s definitely off for the heavy poopie but it still projects a lot of highs, so EQ your rig accordingly.
Not fearful, but I'm seriously contemplating and have been planning out building either a 4x12 or 1x15/2×12 combined cab. I have an ampeg pf210 which puts out some volume and only weighs like 45-50lbs for smaller stuff.
For me I recalled how easy it was to move an ampeg 610 and it's like 110/120lbs. But pulling it around, loading into and out of cars, and dragging it up stairs really wasn't tough. Hell of a lot easier than the deep 212 Mesa or 410 SWR I had for fitting into car doors and heaving up stairs. Another other reason was that I haven't found a 412 that'd sealed and I realize that I kinda prefer that over vented. Lastly, I'd rather move one cab than 2 unless I'm moving like 1x12 cabs, but I digress. I figured I can build either of those configurations I'm wanting to do and likely keep em in the 75-85lbs range, meet the cab volume needed and whatnot.
Russian muffs are excellent, though like you said, the stache and whatnot have a cool timbre too. I just love how the Russian is so creamy, but can also get some bite, all while being massive on the low end if desired. I have a black Russian that also has a 250 stacked in front in one enclosure. Absolutely love how creamy but articulate it is and can sit in the mix so well! And it's wicked beefy if I want it.
Hmm... I'll have to keep this mind for my current two. I hate the carpet on em.
I bet that'd sound awesome. I need something like 40ish lbs or lighter.... because. Well. I live up-stairs and I can't keep (a) cab(s) in my jeep all the time.
Usually you should do a minor amount of sanding to prep any surface. Most of the time the glue used for rat fur is old & dried out and comes off with the fur easily. If not, sand it a little and roll the Duratex right over it. It goes on thcckkk
Yeah, not really sure why I didn't bond with the Russians before. Maybe I wasn't playing in the mix or something? Anyway, I also remembered my old Musket was Green Russian based, so I threw that on a bit ago. Enjoying that too, but need some more time to tweak. It sounds great, but doesn't take boosting as well as the Russian Pickle or EHX. The Pickle especially keeps clarity and a bit more gain when hit with my Pork Loin, but the Musket seems to get a bit muddied and muffled when boosted. But with all of the extra knobs, I feel I should be able to get those tones in there. Gotta keep tweaking. For the moment, my Pharaoh and Grey Stache are off the boards, replaced by Russians.
It's so weird how that can happen to dirt pedals. I've wondered what causes some to get muddy and some not, but then also how like you said some can maintain clarity regardless. Is it just component values, circuit design, component quality? IDK, but would love to learn more about electronics, audio, and circuit design one day.
Can't blame ya one bit. I bet the fearful will fit the bill easy. The 2x10 I have is rad, love the punch it has and I think it'll work great for smaller stuff, its got a hell of a lot of volume. But being sealed and from the design, it just doesn't reach as low as you'd want if your down tuning, or wanting a real deep/subby feel. Fearful seems to be designed for that exactly.
Never used or seen them myself, but I'd go for that over a 2x10 personally. Unless cost is just way better on the 2x10 you want, IMO of course.
Can't blame ya one bit. I bet the fearful will fit the bill easy. The 2x10 I have is rad, love the punch it has and I think it'll work great for smaller stuff, its got a hell of a lot of volume. But being sealed and from the design, it just doesn't reach as low as you'd want if your down tuning, or wanting a real deep/subby feel. Fearful seems to be designed for that exactly.
Never used or seen them myself, but I'd go for that over a 2x10 personally. Unless cost is just way better on the 2x10 you want, IMO of course.
If I knew that stuff, and had the ability to solder well at all, I'd have ALL THE PEDALS.
Short version of what happened - did a massive fuzz shootout. Pharaoh Supreme won out of the EHX Green Russian Reissue, Russian Pickle, Musket Clone, Swollen Pickle, Pharaoh Supreme, and Grey Stache.
#1 Pharaoh Supreme - No surprise for anyone who's noticed my affinity for the Pharaoh that it came out on top. Changed from MOSFET to Germanium diodes, upped the fuzz, slightly tweaked the pre, and adjusted volume as necessary, and it was similarly warm and fuzzy as my Russian Pickle, but with a more balanced tonal spectrum and less compressed lows. It was also a bit more articulate. It will continue to live on my #1 board.
#2 Swollen Pickle - Replaced the Grey Stache as #2. More of a full spectrum tone, very similar to the Pharaoh, but with slightly more compressed lows and maybe a touch more distortion (on my preferred settings trying to match the Pharaoh). As usual, lots of tweaking, but basically put filter and gain at about 10:30, scoop maxed, crunch at about 10:30, and volume as needed. Can't remember what the internal controls are, but I didn't touch them. It's going back to my #2 board.
#3 & 4 (Tie) Russian Pickle and EHX Reissue - Definitely more compressed lows, and a bit of a scoop, but super easy to dial in. Great for a quick fuzz to just get the job done, and sounds amazing for being so simple. The Pickle has slightly less compressed lows, a bit brighter, and requires more on the volume knob (for identical tone on each pedal). But both are so similar tone-wise and have plenty of travel left on any of the knobs you should be able to get pretty much identical tones to either. Overall I have a very slight preference for the Pickle, but both could get the job done no problem. The Pickle will likely go to my dual purpose guitar/bass practice board I'm working on (as well as some other Way Huge offerings. LOVE that company!).
#5 Grey Stache - This was a surprise to me, as this was my #2. It went down a good deal on the rankings! It came down to flexibility. This thing can CUT - no doubt. But I couldn't get the combination of fuzzy warmth in the lows and enough highs to cut out of it that I could with the others. I could get one or the other. It seemed almost flat in comparison. Still, a very competent muff, and if you need gain, this has it in spades. I never went above 9:00 on the gain, and had plenty of dirt. I've found I prefer lower gain muffs, so this doesn't surprise me. I typically had it at minimum tone and gain, with mids from noon to 3:00, depending.
#6 Musket Clone - Another surprise. I really liked this one, but as a fuzz, it was underwhelming. I could get this to really cut as a tight distortion, but whenever I'd boost it, it got muddied no matter the settings. When I upped the bass to make it fuzzier/looser in the lows, it seemed so compressed everywhere else in the spectrum it was a big shift from the tone of the lows to the highs. Seemed kinda jarring for what I wanted in a fuzz. This can definitely do all sorts of tones the others can't, but I have other pedals I prefer for my distortion needs. This isn't a knock on the circuit, but just an observation.
Hope this is interesting to at least someone out there!
Why am I picturing Eugene Levy asking this with a confused look on his face?
Out of the options that I've been looking at, the Fearful ends up being one of the better ones, on a cost-wise basis.... 'course that requires some sweat equity as well, but that's fine. The real upside to making a cab like this I can make it some obnoxious color with _vibrant_ grill cloth.
I'm sure you know some arty types out that way. I say you embed some magnets into the front edge of the cab, then just have them do paintings and put them in the appropriate size frame (with matching magnets) and stick them to the front of the cab. You can just swap out new paintings at your whim that way.
Hmmmm.
Loud cab, check.
Golf bag by front door, check.
Lotsa pens, check.
Wood smoking device, check.
Valid picture.
As an aside, I lived in Albany, OR for some years. Been to Salem many times. Used to haunt the three guitar stores downtown.
In a non-D/S note, I took my wife to see the Old 97s Thursday night, and she had a great time. I've seen them 5 times now, and they always bring a great live show.
Hehehe, they're from my hometown. Love them, this is one of my favorite songs.
Public service announcement:
To anyone who knew of Igorrr and didn't tell me about them: I'm holding it against you, personally. You obviously hate me and want me to be sad.
I mean, if nothing else, that video makes Ultimate Muscle Roller Legend look like Saturday morning cartoons when I was a kid. That it's for that song is just pure deliciousness.
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Been on a doom/stoner streak recently. Or at least somewhere adjacent and in proximity of that location, in relation to the vicinity of my entire being.
The low and slow kinda works for me, even though its not entirely my thing. I think a lot of the vocals kinda ruin a lot of low'n'slow, but that's just me. I really enjoy a lot of the more lovecraftian side of things here, it makes me feel at home.
I'm a picky cat when it comes to music. Not a lot of it speaks to me in any way. For the most part, I'm either all or nothing kinda gal. Singles or EPs? Almost never. I'm more about whole albums, preferably entire bands. I keep it simple. It works, even though the number of bands or albums I can stomach in their entirety is kinda low. I like brutal stuff, a lot of screaming, nihilistic lyrics. It makes me feel good.
This is different. Slow. Took me on a journey ever since I first heard it. I have re-listened to this album over and over again and I feel like I could keep on going forever. It's one of the good ones.
Been on a doom/stoner streak recently. Or at least somewhere adjacent and in proximity of that location, in relation to the vicinity of my entire being.
The low and slow kinda works for me, even though its not entirely my thing. I think a lot of the vocals kinda ruin a lot of low'n'slow, but that's just me. I really enjoy a lot of the more lovecraftian side of things here, it makes me feel at home.
I'm a picky cat when it comes to music. Not a lot of it speaks to me in any way. For the most part, I'm either all or nothing kinda gal. Singles or EPs? Almost never. I'm more about whole albums, preferably entire bands. I keep it simple. It works, even though the number of bands or albums I can stomach in their entirety is kinda low. I like brutal stuff, a lot of screaming, nihilistic lyrics. It makes me feel good.
This is different. Slow. Took me on a journey ever since I first heard it. I have re-listened to this album over and over again and I feel like I could keep on going forever. It's one of the good ones.
One correction that's the smoking chair by the front door not a golf bag, golf is a good walk spoiled.
I have family down in Albany, haven't made it to any of the guitar stores down there. I do most of my instrument shopping at Uptown in Kiezer these days.
That album's been in my rotation since I found the 666mrdoom channel about a year ago, great stuff.
