IMO both Om and Earth have transcended the labels that were attached to them at the beginning of their careers.
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Stoner/Doom Bassists Thread, Part 90: Maxed Out
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Definitely. seeing Om live is a spiritual experience. Jealous of y'all because they haven't booked a date in Houston since pre-covid
Just read somewhere else a few days ago that Al stated they just finished recording a new album. Taken with a grain of salt because Al saying anything on stage outside of lyrics is highly suspect lol!
Only 110 for A standard on a 4 string? I like my tension and all, but wouldn't those be super floppy? I just re-strung one of my 5 strings for A standard, but I went up a gauge from my standard tuned bass to compensate for decreased tension. If memory serves, the "E" string is a 105, and I've got it tuned to D. Still fairly tight, as I like it, but couldn't imagine doing two and a half more steps! One of my buddies tried to convince me to do that in high school so I could play Korn, but I don't think I could play anything on strings that floppy. Good luck! I'm interested to see how it works out for you.
Not sure which GK 210 you're looking at, but if you're wanting the older NEO 210 for lightweight and portability reasons, they were discontinued years ago and nearly impossible to find. Their new line of NEOs also has a 210, but I've heard nothing about it so far. (I'm sure it's quality, just haven't heard anything!) The 212 NEOs are often considered to be quite good, and able to handle large venues without breaking your back. I DO love GK, and would highly recommend them overall, but I have no input on anything past the original NEO line and last iteration of the RB series heads. Everything since then is just hearsay on my part. Good luck on this part of your tone hunt, too!
Speaking of tone hunts, I would have never thought I'd love my Russian Muffs so much. They're very different tonally than my Pharaoh Supreme and Grey Stache, and much more pillowy in the lows with less treble overall, but darn it - they just sound great in the mix. For the moment, I've switched out the Pharaoh and Stache with the Russian Pickle and EHX Reissue, respectively. (But those two aren't going anywhere, that's for sure! Love them both for their versatility.) Loving the different tones of the Russians, and their simplicity to dial in. Also been continuing to learn old-school Kreator. Up to four of their songs now. Having a great time playing my bass again, and hope all here are also enjoying themselves.
I used to use the purple slinky strings (50/135) back in high school on my 5 string. When dropping the B to an A it was still somewhat floppy.
My current set on my A standard is a 135. Not too bad, tension-wise. But I also recently switched from flats that were 135, so my perception is a bit skewed. I like my strings a bit stiff so I know where they'll be when I'm playing a little faster.
THAT makes a LOT more sense! I was seriously wondering how you would play a 110 tuned to A...
Yeah, i'd be looking at one of the new series. TBH I think for what I'm looking for the fearful/fearless/whatever will be ticket. I need light weight and transportable for practice stuff and maybe gigs with the not metal band(s).
Plus I get to make something, lol.
And yeah, .110 is going to be the D string.
I dug around a bunch and finally found a .145 taper so whenever that gets here, this new set will go on.
Definitely. seeing Om live is a spiritual experience. Jealous of y'all because they haven't booked a date in Houston since pre-covid
Just read somewhere else a few days ago that Al stated they just finished recording a new album. Taken with a grain of salt because Al saying anything on stage outside of lyrics is highly suspect lol!
Oh man a new album would be amazing. I can't believe it's been a decade since Advaitic Songs.
The first time I saw Om in 2009 was a transcendent experience. I remember getting to the venue and feeling the bass from outside as I was going thru security. Emil was pretty new to the band at the time, but they sounded incredible. I recall that they jammed on "Flight of the Eagle" for quite a while.
I built a 15/6/1. Sounds good, loud, will def flap your bell bottoms. Fairly light for what it is. Not a small cab, but way smaller than the 215 it replaced. When I was moving it regularly I used a folding handcart with my head and cable case stacked on top. 12/6/1 should be a bit more nimble.
I have no idea how much a build would cost now, but even 10 years ago it wasn’t cheap.
Yeah, Priced out its like... 850 or something. which is fine. I'm also looking at some high end 210 cabs, but i think this will give me more SPL which, well, is good.
Well, in the world of my band, I thought about quitting because we were mostly working on a lot of covers, I wasn't working on them in my spare time, and I wasn't looking forward to rehearsal. So I hemmed and hawed about just quitting before the most recent practice tonight, but I decided to show up and try it out again. So I did, and I genuinely enjoyed myself. We stretched out a lot more from the original on the covers, and we at least talked about the originals we had in the pipeline. I agree they need shaping, and that's harder work than mangling a cover into something new, but we're at least working toward both. I'm a happy camper, for the moment.
In the world of my home life, I've decided to embark on synth modular-ness madness instead of buying a new bass or pedal with my last monetary indulgence. I bought a Crea8audio nifty bundle ( a eurorack case with a module that has a nasty set of two audio oscillators and a low frequency oscillator bundled in it ), and a Dnipro dot Euclidean sequencer. The Fart Machine Has Landed.
I really enjoy the noises I can get out of the set, but not really anything I'd expose anyone but my wife to without a bunch of signal processing (it needs more envelope processing, it's really only a drone synth at the moment). Of course, I began thinking about the modules I could buy, but I'm thinking more and more about creative ways of patching it into the Matriarch at the moment. Either way, the next time I have a monetary indulgence to expend, it's probably going to be on a OLP copy of a MM, unless I find a module I can't live without.
In the world of my home life, I've decided to embark on synth modular-ness madness instead of buying a new bass or pedal with my last monetary indulgence. I bought a Crea8audio nifty bundle ( a eurorack case with a module that has a nasty set of two audio oscillators and a low frequency oscillator bundled in it ), and a Dnipro dot Euclidean sequencer. The Fart Machine Has Landed.
I really enjoy the noises I can get out of the set, but not really anything I'd expose anyone but my wife to without a bunch of signal processing (it needs more envelope processing, it's really only a drone synth at the moment). Of course, I began thinking about the modules I could buy, but I'm thinking more and more about creative ways of patching it into the Matriarch at the moment. Either way, the next time I have a monetary indulgence to expend, it's probably going to be on a OLP copy of a MM, unless I find a module I can't live without.
Cab-talk: I've been pretty happy with Schroeder's. I have two single 15's that are rhino lined and they weigh maybe 35lbs each. The tweeters can be turned off, I don't think the cabs even need them IMO because whatever neo drivers are in them sound pretty good. If you want hifi bass they can do it. Easy enough to bring 1 or stack 2 depending on your volume needs. Schroeder makes all sorts of cabs so maybe look them up and then look at Guitar Center's used website, that's how I ended up w/ mine IIRC.
I would love to build one of those Dually 2x15 cabs but as far as I know, no one makes kits for them. For finishing, I highly recommend Duratex. It’s very easy to roll on, looks just like tolex from a foot or two away, and is really tough.
Yeah, Priced out its like... 850 or something. which is fine. I'm also looking at some high end 210 cabs, but i think this will give me more SPL which, well, is good.
Depending on your budget, preferences, and what you qualify as portable, the berg NXT cabs may be worth a look. I’m admittedly selling my 212 because I prefer my Subway cabs for my fairly specific needs. That said, it’s one of the more even sounding cabs I’ve heard, and it will keep up in most situations unless you’re trying to battle dual 4x12s and 100 watt tube heads on stage. They make a 210 that’s well regarded. The 212 is only 40-45 lbs and it’s a pretty easy carry
I'm planning on keeping my other big cabs for when I need the volume, this would be just a rehearsal/practice/small thing cab with the assumption that there'd be some PA support and my rig won't have to carry the room...
That roll on stuff is the plan... I'm also a big fan of stuff like roll on bed liner or crap like that. I did the entire inside of my jeep with herculiner a few years ago and its been awesome. I'm totally ok with cabs getting the same treatment (it'll collect less cat fur too!).
The berg 210 is one I'm looking at too, but honestly building the 12/6/1 would be fun and prob work very well for my given use case. IE, the rehearsal/practice/small show rig.
My current rig is already more than enough to drown out my guitar player and drummer with a 500watt head, a 115 and a 210.
The Duratex is similar to the bedliner but it is a little thinner and less abrasive. Less weight added as well. You can get a smoother finish without that sandpaper texture that scapes your hands up.
For light, loud and portable, I’m pretty happy with my Barefaced Super Compact 12. I also have a very old 1990s Flite cab that now sports a 15” eminence 15” and a 5” mid. Running both is absurdly loud with my Orange TB 500.
I've recovered a couple of rat fur head enclosures with Duratex and it's the easiest sh1t ever, doesn't smell and looks the business. Next time I might try white or tint it some stupid color.
