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Stoner/Doom Bassists Thread, Part 90: Maxed Out

I can't help ya, but I can enable ya lol! Agreed about the green ringer, so great. I'm thinking about trying to get a tentacle + range master clone in one box. Cocked wah and octave in one box to enhance whatever fuzz flavor I'm wanting at that time. Probably gonna utilize RCO for that, quality that doesn't break the bank.

Thankfully, my house hunt is finally over. Awesome location, an old 1920s Craftsman house across the street from Lake Huron. Mega thumbs up.

Yeah, when I've lived with the Joyo for a while I'll see if it still gets me excited. I am definitely interested in analog octave up + fuzz

I will probably just gonna end up with some flavor of Foxx Tone Machine as the Joyo one just opened my ears to that style of octave fuzz. Like the Warm Audio Foxy Tone, HbE UFO, or Fulltone Ultimate Octave, or Orange Fur Coat, SuF Silver Fox, Abominable Toke Machine, etc.

Otherwise, I would need 3 pedals, lol. A bypass looper [so I can turn both on/off simultaneously], a Green Ringer/EQD Tentacle and then a fuzz, most likely a muff variant as I still have love for muffs. I really like the EHX Triangle RI, EQD Hizumitas, and the Vick Audio Ram's Head.
 
Speaking of fuzz - thoughts on the Way Huge Conquistador? I think I've decided to stop my Rat binge (for now...) and am looking to add to my arsenal of velcro fuzz. I've already got a Carcosa - enough differences to warrant both? I typically love anything Jeorge Tripps makes, and the Conquistador has been on the backburner for a bit now. Of course, I should be downsizing! And I've got to figure out my in-bass preamp situation someday.
 
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Speaking of fuzz - thoughts on the Way Huge Conquistador? I think I've decided to stop my Rat binge (for now...) and am looking to add to my arsenal of velcro fuzz. I've already got a Carcosa - enough differences to warrant both? I typically love anything Jeorge Tripps makes, and the Conquistador has been on the backburner for a bit now. Of course, I should be
I dunno. Conquistador sounds 60's-ish to me, like Fuzz Face/Maestro territory. No idea how that compares to the Caracosa
 
Sooo, I went kind of shopping for a video synthesizer to the point where I was asking around on another board about them, and someone who knew I used Linux asked why I hadn't already stared to use the Pure Data GEM module. Well, dammit, I had used Pure Data for audio before (very lightly, just following the examples), and the GEM module was already installed. Just sitting there, looking at me with an expression on it's face like it thinks I'm a baboon's butt. It wasn't right, but it was close enough. The person who suggested it saved me at least 500 simoleons, probably more in the long run.

So, a little over a week ago, I spent all of my productive spare time trying to actually understand this synthesizer that is controlled by a graphical programming language that can also manipulate the bejeezus out of video from random inputs. This video is made form peaks at different levels triggering different effects with the value they generate. I've got a lot to learn about it (hey, I've only been using it for a little over week for video) , but it seems perfect for manipulating/projecting visuals over a band, and I have a projector in the house already.

This was mostly created as a proof of concept to sell my band on the idea, and the hardest part of it was recording it. GEM is pretty great, but it's mostly there for live output. If you want to record it, it doesn't have any really good way to record video outside of a screen capture. Once I had that worked out, it was great. It's a song that I'm pretty sure I posted here about a year ago, but it had no video. Really, I just want to project stuff like this on my band.

(Warning: pretty much nothing but flashing images)

 
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Sooo, I went kind of shopping for a video synthesizer to the point where I was asking around on another board about them, and someone who knew I used Linux asked why I hadn't already stared to use the Pure Data GEM module. Well, dammit, I had used Pure Data for audio before (very lightly, just following the examples), and the GEM module was already installed. Just sitting there, looking at me with an expression on it's face like it thinks I'm a baboon's butt. It wasn't right, but it was close enough. The person who suggested it saved me at least 500 simoleons, probably more in the long run.

So, a little over a week ago, I spent all of my productive spare time trying to actually understand this synthesizer that is controlled by a graphical programming language that can also manipulate the bejeezus out of video from random inputs. This video is made form peaks at different levels triggering different effects with the value they generate. I've got a lot to learn about it (hey, I've only been using it for a little over week for video) , but it seems perfect for manipulating/projecting visuals over a band, and I have a projector in the house already.

This was mostly created as a proof of concept to sell my band on the idea, and the hardest part of it was recording it. GEM is pretty great, but it's mostly there for live output. If you want to record it, it doesn't have any really good way to record video outside of a screen capture. Once I had that worked out, it was great. It's a song that I'm pretty sure I posted here about a year ago, but it had no video. Really, I just want to project stuff like this on my band.

(Warning: pretty much nothing but flashing images)



I can dig this all day
 
So, bonus payout was larger than expected: so I took the chance to add a MIJ G&L L-2500 Premium to my lineup. I really don’t know how this is, but the MFD pickups on these are hotter than my other L2K series basses.

Also got a Genz Benz Shuttlemax 12.2 on the way to get back into the higher-wattage game (This after missing out on a 90s Sunn 1200S head). I don’t necessarily know how well the Genz Benz will match up for stoner/doom, but I know it’s going to be a killer all-rounder one way of another.

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Hey all, been a while - completely random question disregarding any recent posts, but is anyone still using 15s out there? Tempted to pick a couple up....10s and 12s seem to be flavour of the period ... Just curious as to whether they've phased out, and if they have why....
Hope everyone's cool ✌️

It's a controversial subject, but I feel like the size of the speaker doesn't really matter- it's more about the quality of the components and construction. I'm using a Bergantino 15/6 stack for stoner/doom:

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Hey all, been a while - completely random question disregarding any recent posts, but is anyone still using 15s out there? Tempted to pick a couple up....10s and 12s seem to be flavour of the period ... Just curious as to whether they've phased out, and if they have why....
Hope everyone's cool ✌️

I'm still using a 2x15. Don't see any reason to change, really.
 
Hey all, been a while - completely random question disregarding any recent posts, but is anyone still using 15s out there? Tempted to pick a couple up....10s and 12s seem to be flavour of the period ... Just curious as to whether they've phased out, and if they have why....
Hope

I use a pair of 15s an open back guitar cab, and a 1x15 combo, I need to get an extension cab or build a 2x18 cab.
 
It's a controversial subject, but I feel like the size of the speaker doesn't really matter- it's more about the quality of the components and construction. I'm using a Bergantino 15/6 stack for stoner/doom:

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100% accurate. The fact that ‘larger speaker diameter = more low end’ still prevails as an argument is baffling to me. So many great sounding cabinets out there in different sizes, configurations, and materials. It’s really just about what you need and what sounds right for that sound in your head…
 
So, bonus payout was larger than expected: so I took the chance to add a MIJ G&L L-2500 Premium to my lineup. I really don’t know how this is, but the MFD pickups on these are hotter than my other L2K series basses.
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I made the mistake of getting a G&L Fallout. I say mistake because I really love the sound and want to make it my main player but I’d want another short scale backup.
 
It's a controversial subject, but I feel like the size of the speaker doesn't really matter- it's more about the quality of the components and construction. I'm using a Bergantino 15/6 stack for stoner/doom:

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I agree, there isn't a specific sound for each speaker size. It is definitely more about what the cab and speaker are designed to sound like together.
 
100% accurate. The fact that ‘larger speaker diameter = more low end’ still prevails as an argument is baffling to me. So many great sounding cabinets out there in different sizes, configurations, and materials. It’s really just about what you need and what sounds right for that sound in your head…
Accurate but one of the ways to increase efficiency is more area and the resonant frequency is dictated by the balance of the suspension and motor with the moving mass which a heavier cone lowers. It's possible to make small speakers go low but it's all a trade off either reduced efficiency, or reduced power handling and its easier to make big speakers go lower.

This misconception used to have more merit when speaker manufacturers made one motor and put different size speakers on them but generally that's not done so much these days. Even then it wasn't possible to make blanket statements about 10s sound like this and 15s sound like that.
 
Yeah 100% behind the size doesn't deliver the tonal properties science.
@cusar5 those bergs are epic!!!
Just weighing up cost, weight, output ratio for a couple of new cabs to add to the collection. I always liked the budget 15s I owned about 15 years ago then moved to barefaced, but thinking of getting an old school set of 2 115s for a secondary rig/ additional speakers.
Glad to see they're still being utilised. I always struggled with the maths of a 215 being equivalent to an 810 though as a 'full stack'