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Strap locks

#83
Jeff K said:
I used Schaller's for years. Now this is all I use. They're like a washer, but they're made of neoprene. About 50 cents each. They stretch over the strap button, so they're very easy to remove/replace if need be. I have separate straps for all my basses, so I hardly ever have to take them off; but it's very easy if you do.

And they don't take up any space in the case, so you can leave the strap on in the case. I've never had a problem or had them come off without me physically removing them.


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Did you get these at Home Depot or Lowes or somewhere else?
 
#85
I used Schallers for many years. Yes, the lock stays securely on the button.... but it's waaaaaay too easy for the strap to fall off the lock, leaving the lock on the guitar and the guitar on the floor! This nearly happened to the guitarist in one of my bands a couple weeks ago, he was very lucky to have been seated at the time. He spent nearly the entire break trying to find the missing nut and washer.

The remedies for the Schaller system are to constantly re-tighten the lock nut so that the nut and washer stay in place -- or use loctite or something like that -- but neither is acceptable to me.


I never liked the original Dunlop lock because it's useless with an unlocked strap. But I switched over to the Dunlop Dual Design system around Y2K and haven't looked back. In ten years the only problem I've had was the very first time I used it: I did not insert the lock far enough into the button. Lesson learned, and no damage done because I was being extra cautious with this new system.

I am completely happy with the Dunlop Dual Designs. They work as well as a standard button with unlocked straps, and are amazingly secure with a locked strap. The only downside is that the lock can be a pain to add and remove from a strap, but I got the hang of it it was no big deal - an acceptable inconvenience in exchange for greater security.
 
#88
Old thread, But good info...

I got a new AM Standard Jazz last week. As I have Schaller locks on my P bass and my Levy's leather strap, I got a matching set of new Schallers. I agonized a bit comparing the two screws for the buttons. As near as I could tell, they were very similar. I didn't want to put a new screw with different threading into my new bass, so I decided to use the Schaller button, but reuse the screws that came on the bass. IF anything I figure this will keep the integrity of the original mount a bit better. It looks like the trade off might be a ever so slightly shorter screw length.

Has anyone here done the same and ever run into problems?

I was considering going the Grolsch beer red, rubber gasket method just to keep from having to do a bunch of set up. But for some reason, these just make me nervous.
 
#89
Fuzzbass said:
The remedies for the Schaller system are to constantly re-tighten the lock nut so that the nut and washer stay in place -- or use loctite or something like that -- but neither is acceptable to me.
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why is loc-tite not "acceptable"? it works perfectly with the schaller locks.
 
#91
M0ses said:
+1. Who ever actually NEEDS to de-strap their bass?
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I know this post was from awhile back, but no one ever addressed a particular facet regarding the above quote - Fender basses don't typically fit in Fender hardshell cases without removing the strap... Whenever I see someone take the above stance, I know they're probably never tried to fit a P Bass or Jazz Bass into a Fender OHSC...


- georgestrings
 
#93
I use Schallers on my Epi Les Paul (HEAVY!!!! XD XD) and Dunlops on my Schecer Omen, both work fine but the Schallers seem a bit more heavy duty. Interestingly I don't use straplocks on my basses, but the only time I have a come-off is right when I am putting the strap on my shoulder, and I have my hand on the bass.

I'm willing to live with that.

Peace,
Greg
 
#94
Fuzzbass said:
The remedies for the Schaller system are to constantly re-tighten the lock nut so that the nut and washer stay in place -- or use loctite or something like that -- but neither is acceptable to me.
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I have been using them for 10 years without failure and never once have i used loctite!

Just use a wrench and pliers to tighten the strap portion of the lock and it will never move!
 
#96
I like the Schaller straplocks but I need more buttons for my other basses. I don't have a strap for every bass I own and my #1 strap is so perfectly soft and worn in that I wouldn't want to use any other.

To get more buttons, I need to buy more straplock sets and at around $20 each, that is not going to happen.
I thought I could just get the buttons for the Schaller ones.
I was told differently.
 
#97
walterw said:
why is loc-tite not "acceptable"? it works perfectly with the schaller locks.
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I think it's not really a matter of Loctite not working, it's more like you shouldn't have to go to that extra effort in order to keep the lock from falling apart. Some people might think it a poorly designed system if it required such extra measures in order for it to work properly.
 
#98
loend68 said:
I don't like the way my bass fits in the case without removing the strap.....

Dunlop dual-design straploks....They have no nut to come off unexpectedly. And the dual design allows you to use a regular strap if you have to....

edit: scottbass beat me to it....

The only maintenance is a drop of oil on the strap side once in a while.
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Same exact thoughts. I always have hardshell cases and I feel the need to take the strap off before putting it back in the case.
 
#99
4001 said:
I like the Schaller straplocks but I need more buttons for my other basses. I don't have a strap for every bass I own and my #1 strap is so perfectly soft and worn in that I wouldn't want to use any other.

To get more buttons, I need to buy more straplock sets and at around $20 each, that is not going to happen.
I thought I could just get the buttons for the Schaller ones.
I was told differently.
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Get the sets and sell the extra locks.
 

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