Subway+ Bass DI-Preamp II

[Nebadon2000]

So, despite the talk about not needing to go 18v, I am thinking of doing it anyway

Does anyone have an opinion on these voltage doubles like this for my 1 Spot 9v…

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Or should it be a dedicated 18v power supply

Main advantage of dedicated 18v supply is one less box and extra plug in vs doubler

Not to mention post 517

 

[DJ Bebop]

Main advantage of dedicated 18v supply is one less box and extra plug in vs doubler

Not to mention post 517

Anyone have a favorite they’d like to share

 

[Al Kraft]

What are the cool kids using for single 18V power supplies?

Not claiming to be cool in any way, but I use a Fulltone (IPS-18) for 18 Volt operation.

For 9 Volt operation I have had great luck with Fulltone and 1Spot products. I also ran this box on a 12 Volt Audio-Technica power supply during early testing and it worked just fine.

I just like having the extra headroom with the higher voltage power supplies, but didn't run into any issues with my Warwicks or EBMM Sterling at any voltage level.

 

[gstaats]

I think I am going to try the CIOKS 4 and run it from a USB C battery brick. It can do 9 , 12 , 15 or 18V. I run a small board and this would be perfect. Trying to keep it wireless (at least no power...) still running a wired bass.

 

[DJ Bebop]

Not claiming to be cool in any way, but I use a Fulltone (IPS-18) for 18 Volt operation.

For 9 Volt operation I have had great luck with Fulltone and 1Spot products. I also ran this box on a 12 Volt Audio-Technica power supply during early testing and it worked just fine.

I just like having the extra headroom with the higher voltage power supplies, but didn't run into any issues with my Warwicks or EBMM Sterling at any voltage level.

No noise issues with the Fulltone?
I think I saw a review that claimed the switching power supply was noisy. I think that was one review though.

 

[Hoochie Coochie Man]

"What power supply should I use to power my new Subway+ Bass DI-Preamp II?"

How about the new: Mesa Boogie.

"Subway POWERHOUSE Rechargeable Lithium-ion Pedal Board Power Supply" ?

No power cord to trip over due to the internal rechargeable lithium-Ion battery.

When fully charged it keeps all of your pedals and other devices powered on stage for hours.

The most expensive part of developing such a device may be regulatory.

 

[ImTheOnlyOne]

"What power supply should I use to power my new Subway+ Bass DI-Preamp II?"


How about the new (cordless) Mesa Boogie Subway "POWERHOUSE" Rechargeable Lithium-ion Pedal Board Power Supply?

Are you high on your own supply?

 

[Hoochie Coochie Man]

Are you high on your own supply?

Yes I am!

 

[Al Kraft]

No noise issues with the Fulltone?
I think I saw a review that claimed the switching power supply was noisy. I think that was one review though.

No problems at all with any Fulltone product I've ever used including power supplies and cables. Maybe I have just been lucky.

That said, I read a very detailed engineering article/interview years ago about the design process and trades for the 1Spot power supplies and it was obvious to me why they have one of the best products (IMO) out there.

 

[agedhorse]

"What power supply should I use to power my new Subway+ Bass DI-Preamp II?"

How about the new: Mesa Boogie.

"Subway POWERHOUSE Rechargeable Lithium-ion Pedal Board Power Supply" ?

No power cord to trip over due to the internal rechargeable lithium-Ion battery.

When fully charged it keeps all of your pedals and other devices powered on stage for hours.

The most expensive part of developing such a device may be regulatory.

Lithium batteries and regulatory is indeed a challenge, or it is if you follow all of the rules…

 

[InkCow]

Anyone have a favorite they’d like to share

I’m not going to claim “favorite” over a power supply, because they’re pretty boring, but I have two cheap-o power supplies that are quiet and I have had no issues with.
Donner DP-X: this is what I used until I got my Le Bass and it needed 500mA at 12v, which it couldn’t do so I went back to my first PSU
Vangoa VS-08: I got it for cheap on Amazon and it’s been great. The only reason why I originally replaced it with the Donner, was because the Donner is rechargeable.

Anyway, my point is don’t overthink it. If you don’t want a cheap-o power supply, get a One Spot CS-6.

 

[Hoochie Coochie Man]

"What power supply should I use to power my new Subway+ Bass DI-Preamp II?"

Since the Subway POWERHOUSE Rechargeable Lithium-ion Pedal Board Power Supply won't happen. (I was just kidding in that post).

When I eventually buy a Subway+ Bass DI-Preamp II, I may cobble together a way to power it with one of the numerous Bosch, Milwaukee, Makita, or DeWalt power tool batteries that I already own.

An LM 7818 voltage regulator, a couple capacitors and a diode, (which I already have on hand) could be used to make a voltage regulator circuit to regulate the battery output voltage to give some peace of mind regarding the 18 volt upper limit on the preamp supply voltage just in case a freshly charged battery exceeds 18 volts.

I have a very compact Bosch 18V, 2 Ah Lithium Ion battery that would be perfect for this use.

It would be very easy to make a regulated 18 volt power tool battery pack adapter with a connector to the battery and a compact integrated voltage regulator having a cord terminated in a compatible coaxial power connector to the preamp.

Someone asked me earlier: "Are you high on your own supply?" My reply, (yet again) is: Yes!

 

[CaptainRuss]

Giving my Subway+DI II its maiden live voyage tonight. Small club with unknown backline with a band I’m just filling in with for one gig. Will be powering it with my Volto powerbank, it’s what I’ve been using at home to practice with. When it finally hits my pedalboard I’ll run it off 18V but for now the Volto is working great.

 

[agedhorse]

"What power supply should I use to power my new Subway+ Bass DI-Preamp II?"

Since the Subway POWERHOUSE Rechargeable Lithium-ion Pedal Board Power Supply won't happen. (I was just kidding in that post).

When I eventually buy a Subway+ Bass DI-Preamp II, I may cobble together a way to power it with one of the numerous Bosch, Milwaukee, Makita, or DeWalt power tool batteries that I already own.

An LM 7818 voltage regulator, a couple capacitors and a diode, (which I already have on hand) could be used to make a voltage regulator circuit to regulate the battery output voltage (to give some peace of mind regarding the 18 volt upper limit on the preamp supply voltage just in case a freshly charged battery exceeds 18 volts).

I have a very compact Bosch 18V, 2 Ah Lithium Ion battery that would be perfect for this use.

It would be very easy to make a regulated 18 volt power tool battery pack adapter with a connector to the battery and a compact integrated voltage regulator having a cord terminated in a compatible coaxial power connector to the preamp.

Someone asked me earlier: "Are you high on your own supply?" My reply, (yet again) is: Yes!

Sounds like more trouble than it’s worth since there are purpose built power supplies that are pretty small and cost effective.

 

[Hoochie Coochie Man]

Andy said: "Sounds like more trouble than it’s worth since there are purpose built power supplies that are pretty small and cost effective."

I am retired, (and I actually miss the electronics work I did for over forty years). I don't miss it enough to get a job.

I could build one in way less than an hour with parts I have on hand.

Recently, I bought a 48 volt inverter to make alternative use of the batteries from my new electric bikes. (I have four 48 volt 17.5Ah batteries). I ordered connectors and such with the idea to make a portable AC power module just for the fun of it.. I did not think I would make use of it a week after I had bought all the connectors and such, but due to tornadoes I had no power for over three days.

After almost twenty hours of no power, I made up a connection to the new inverter from the e-bike batteries and powered my fridge, TV, internet, and other devices for over two days.

I am glad I had the project parts on hand. It did not take vary long to cobble it together, and it proved its usefulness immediately. Plus, I had fun doing it.

 

[Michael Vee]

Giving my Subway+DI II its maiden live voyage tonight. Small club with unknown backline with a band I’m just filling in with for one gig. Will be powering it with my Volto powerbank, it’s what I’ve been using at home to practice with. When it finally hits my pedalboard I’ll run it off 18V but for now the Volto is working great.

Just checked, and the Voltos are still unavailable new. I keep hoping that Creation Audio Labs will get them back in production.

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[CaptainRuss]

Giving my Subway+DI II its maiden live voyage tonight. Small club with unknown backline with a band I’m just filling in with for one gig. Will be powering it with my Volto powerbank, it’s what I’ve been using at home to practice with. When it finally hits my pedalboard I’ll run it off 18V but for now the Volto is working great.

Well that was a nice hit-and-run gig. Banged out a hot :45 set of originals and covers, using my EBMM SR Special HH, and left them wanting more, alas, that was all we had.

The mystery backline was a MarkBass head and some random 2x10 cab. Popped my Volto and Mesa DI on top and ran it into the FX return. Would’ve sounded the way I wanted it to if it weren’t for that rando cab which was not designed to handle the sweet dynamics of the Subway+ box.

Doing a quick line check and trying to get our levels balanced the sound guy came over and started messing with all the knobs on the MarkBass head and the perplexed look on his face when he couldn’t figure out why they didn’t do anything was precious. I let him suffer for about 20 seconds as penalty for ignoring me when I previously informed him I had a DI going into the return.

So, I ,again, point to the black box on top of the yellow box and tell him that’s what he should be looking at. Another look of utter confusion when he was unfamiliar with the controls on the DI. So I asked him, “What do you want to change?”

He says, “There’s too much…bass, I think, or something, there’s just a lot”

I then reached past him and adjusted the HPF and played a few notes and got the nod of approval. I have met far too many house sounds guys who have never seen a HPF on an amp or heard one get adjusted like that.

Anyway, the Subway+ DI sounded great in field use. I was very happy I chose to go with it. Kicked on the drive section for closing number. Had been toying with it during my home rehearsal and made the last minute decision to just do it before the song but I goosed it a little higher than I had been practicing with. Oh, Sweet Baby Jeezus!!, that was awesome sounding. On the third note of the song I glanced over at the band leader/guitarist and saw a huge grin on his face when he realized what I had done. That spoke volumes.

(I must add that home volumes or using headphones, the drive section isn’t as hard hitting as it is at gig volume. If you’re finding it lacking just wait until you can really get it opened up.)

Would I have rather had my 800D and Subway 1x15? Always a yes, however this pedal is a more than sufficient substitute. Especially when everything I needed fit in one gig bag.

 

[Ian774]

What you call “the drive” is the Boost, right? Does it go into overdrive? Andy said here that there’s some tube amp emulation so I was wondering….

 

[JJR58]

What you call “the drive” is the Boost, right? Does it go into overdrive? Andy said here that there’s some tube amp emulation so I was wondering….

I do know you can get that from the gain alone.
I haven’t dabbled with the boost, so I too am curious.

 

[agedhorse]

What you call “the drive” is the Boost, right? Does it go into overdrive? Andy said here that there’s some tube amp emulation so I was wondering….

The boost function does in fact increase the gain which can increase the drive if the gain control is set close to the point of break-up.

The original name was in fact drive, but was changed to boost to minimize confusion for the majority of players that probably will use it more for boost than drive.