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TC Electronic BG250 Club (Part 2)
- Thread starter drpepper
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I've had my BG250 for roughly 18 months and it instantly became my main amp. I've used it in church, in small heavy rock gigs, outdoors with PA support and in clubs that hold up to 350 people with no PA support, and it has done admirably in every situation. I never run it past 50% volume and the tone controls are almost always at noon, but sometimes with mids cut. I loaded the SpectraComp and it's an integral part of my sound. TubeTone I use, if at all, at about 30%. However, I don't see the need for the elimination of TubeTone just to add a second TonePrint.
I've side-by-sided my BG250 with a '50s Ampeg B15 fliptop and it sounds remarkably similar, but with more headroom. Now that they've lowered the "old" BG250 price to $299, I'm sorely tempted to buy another to add on larger gigs, but the 208 model also looks nice -- might be just the think to get the sound up near ear level without killing myself or the crowd. I had been using a Genz Benz Shuttle 6.0 with two 112 cabs, and I think the BG250 outperforms that setup, expecially for the price.
I imagine that on an outdoor gig or in large club without PA support, running the BG250 along with the Shuttle in a Y setup would be more than adequate for any gig I play.
I've side-by-sided my BG250 with a '50s Ampeg B15 fliptop and it sounds remarkably similar, but with more headroom. Now that they've lowered the "old" BG250 price to $299, I'm sorely tempted to buy another to add on larger gigs, but the 208 model also looks nice -- might be just the think to get the sound up near ear level without killing myself or the crowd. I had been using a Genz Benz Shuttle 6.0 with two 112 cabs, and I think the BG250 outperforms that setup, expecially for the price.
I imagine that on an outdoor gig or in large club without PA support, running the BG250 along with the Shuttle in a Y setup would be more than adequate for any gig I play.
Great to hear - thanks for the input. I've read a lot of great reviews (and a few bad ones), and I played through a BG250 last week and it's a neat little amp.
Just as both Jepus and McCartneyman stated above, I also like having both the TubeTone and TonePrint available...so MKI it is.
Since I like SamAsh's ESP 2-year warranty, I'm going to get it there instead of online through MF. It's going to cost me little more initially (for the sales tax), but I know that if I have any issues, I can bring it there and they'll take care of me.
Just as both Jepus and McCartneyman stated above, I also like having both the TubeTone and TonePrint available...so MKI it is.
Since I like SamAsh's ESP 2-year warranty, I'm going to get it there instead of online through MF. It's going to cost me little more initially (for the sales tax), but I know that if I have any issues, I can bring it there and they'll take care of me.
It's not that TubeDrive is "eliminated;" it's essentially a fixed TonePrint in the first version. TubeDrive (or, currently, one of three other BassDrive ("TubeTone") TonePrints) can still be loaded into that slot if that's what does it for you.
If you have any interest in used, I have a pretty strong feeling that you'll be able to do a hell of a lot better than $299 here on the TB classifieds very shortly
Ditto everything you said, except I bought mine around Chiristmas last year. Relatively large bars with no support, direct others, small clube, Tubedrive and SpectraComp nearly all the time.. I do recomend the foot pedal for any of them.
I am planning on adding a mounting hole on it's side so I can get it up a few feet higher so I can hear it better but still see the tuner LEDs. To be honest, seeing the tuner LEDs is the only thing I have problems with. I really love the amp and think I may get the 208 version to have in my office and get rid of my old Peavey Mk III and 115 BW cab that's been relegated to home practice.
I am planning on adding a mounting hole on it's side so I can get it up a few feet higher so I can hear it better but still see the tuner LEDs. To be honest, seeing the tuner LEDs is the only thing I have problems with. I really love the amp and think I may get the 208 version to have in my office and get rid of my old Peavey Mk III and 115 BW cab that's been relegated to home practice.
Well, foot firmly planted in mouth
My mistake...TubeDrive plus another TonePrint is gone. Until I tried it, I had been assuming that both TonePrints could be on at the same time...not so.
If you're a fan of TubeDrive and SpectraComp (the popular combination), the original BG250 is the one.
Thanks to all - called and paid for - picking up a BG250 MKI tomorrow afternoon.
Put my practice amp (TNT130) on CL this morning.
Put my practice amp (TNT130) on CL this morning.
Well, foot firmly planted in mouth
My mistake...TubeDrive plus another TonePrint is gone. Until I tried it, I had been assuming that both TonePrints could be on at the same time...not so.
If you're a fan of TubeDrive and SpectraComp (the popular combination), the original BG250 is the one.
Wow - I figured the BH250-based 208 was like that, but he 210 (and I assume the 112 and 115) is too? That's almost a step backward IMHO.
Hi everyone, I'm so glad that there are so many people who love this combo. 12 Pages worth and a second thread started! Not to be a wet blanket, but I made a post recently asking why the Aguilar combos were discontinued, and received a full page from many TB'ers who gave me ALL the reasons why combos are obsolete! And here we are, I'm so happy and encouraged to see so many people using a fine, powerful, and light combo that's totally modern, and being actively sold and getting awards!
Rock on guys!
Rock on guys!
Yup. Depending on your use, it could definitely be viewed as a step backward. Click the button for one slot and it turns the other one off
Even though I've had the BG250 for a while, I have to plead ignorance on aspects of the TonePrints. I thought that it was always the case that if you had the pedal, you could toggle between the last two loaded TonePrints (?). Since I don't have a switch pedal, I wasn't sure, but since I don't really use the TonePrints, I wasn't really that interested.
That's the way the bh250 head works. The bg250 combo ( original I have ) works differently.
Button 1 mutes for tuning
Button 2 turns on off tube drive
Button 3 turns on off tone print.
I love the spectracomp almost always. I can see using a pedal for that and putting my 2 favorite effects into the new tone print banks and use the foot switch of them. There is no perfect way. They could have 3 tone prints and we'd ask for 4. It's still a flexible amp.
Button 1 mutes for tuning
Button 2 turns on off tube drive
Button 3 turns on off tone print.
I love the spectracomp almost always. I can see using a pedal for that and putting my 2 favorite effects into the new tone print banks and use the foot switch of them. There is no perfect way. They could have 3 tone prints and we'd ask for 4. It's still a flexible amp.
Haha, the combo is dead, long live the combo
You can find all kinds of differing opinions on TB for sure.
This will keep me from going after one of the new ones.
I keep SpectraComp on all the time, and kick TubeDrive in and out with the pedal. Gotta have 'em both...Definitely a step in an unexpected direction. Maybe something a firmware update can fix at some point?
Yeah, it works as Scottkarch said. One thing I always thought was weird though - if you hook it up via USB to swap the Toneprint out with your computer, there IS a button you can click which lets you compare the previous Toneprint to the one you are loading - yet button 3 on the Switch3 only turns the Toneprint on or off
Just want to say though - this amp is a great deal even if you don't use the Tubedrive or Toneprints - especially since they are selling the "Mk 1" version for 299 now.
Haha, the combo is dead, long live the combo
You can find all kinds of differing opinions on TB for sure.
+1
I played the 208 with a group tonight. My gig got cancelled last night, but I had a rehearsal with two guitars and drums tonight (not super loud or anything). The 208 can hang. I had the master at about 4:00 (dimed is about 5:00ish), so it was pretty close to all it could give. No problem with the sound though. It remained solid and punchy.
The verdict as to whether it could replace the 115 for me - ???
It'd be a close call, I could see it forcing me to have to bring the 410 in situations that the 115 could have handled.
OTOH, it's really attractive for some acoustic trio stuff I'm in the process of working up.
The verdict as to whether it could replace the 115 for me - ???
It'd be a close call, I could see it forcing me to have to bring the 410 in situations that the 115 could have handled.
OTOH, it's really attractive for some acoustic trio stuff I'm in the process of working up.
Well, that last price drop on the "old" version finally nudged me over the cliff: I have one "on the way".
After having played guitar for years, I was finally sucked into the low-frequency vortex a few months ago. Have only owned two bass amps in my life (a 6G6B Bassman and a Musicmaster Bass Amp) both of which really work better as guitar amps. So you might say this will be my first, dedicated, bass amp. I've been getting by up til now practicing through the Musicmaster, but its flat, one-dimensional sound is pretty uninspiring. The 6G6B I sold years ago (a regrettable move...ah, well).
Can't wait!
After having played guitar for years, I was finally sucked into the low-frequency vortex a few months ago. Have only owned two bass amps in my life (a 6G6B Bassman and a Musicmaster Bass Amp) both of which really work better as guitar amps. So you might say this will be my first, dedicated, bass amp. I've been getting by up til now practicing through the Musicmaster, but its flat, one-dimensional sound is pretty uninspiring. The 6G6B I sold years ago (a regrettable move...ah, well).
Can't wait!
