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TC Electronic RH750 ???!??

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Here's a slightly different take on Eublets' great advice:
What works best for me is to drop the low freq to minimum (around 70hz) and cut a few clicks, taking out some rumbling lows.
Then I do the BIA thing, boost, isolate, adjust ;) with the low mids to bring back some fatness and punch. For me this usually ends up being around 140 to 180 hz (5 or 6 clicks below center). I don't isolate by boosting all the way to the max because it sounds a little overbearing and artificial when looking for a good frequency, if you're looking for an offending frequency boosting to the max is great.
I think this kind of EQ'ing is best done at moderate to loud levels otherwise it doesn't really give you a realistic picture of your tone.
Another trick with the RH amps to tame the lows a tad is to use just one or two clicks of tubetone. Try it at band level volume and you might be surprised at the change in voicing only one click can do!
 
#182
I've been following these 750 threads, but my memory is not so sharp; searches are difficult for M6 / M9; anyway, can anyone that owns or has played both compare the M6 or M9 to the RH750?

[...especially, as to the low bass through low mids response...THANKS!]

[...thinking about the range I'm interested in, I guess that as to that range, experience with the RH450 would be relevant as well (I realize there are differences as to the treble response between the 450 & 750)...]
 
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lo-freq said:
I've been following these 750 threads, but my memory is not so sharp; searches are difficult for M6 / M9; anyway, can anyone that owns or has played both compare the M6 or M9 to the RH750?

[...especially, as to the low bass through low mids response...THANKS!]

[...thinking about the range I'm interested in, I guess that as to that range, experience with the RH450 would be relevant as well (I realize there are differences as to the treble response between the 450 & 750)...]
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True, but only if you open up the TweeterTone and bump the high end. Otherwise, the heads are really voiced identically if all the EQ is set the same and the TweeterTone is left alone.

The RH heads are still generally very classically voiced. You have to push the low and high end to get the big round bottom and crystalline highs that are native to the Mesa Carbines. I'm sure at least with the 750 you could get in the ballpark, but if you're really looking more for the Carbine type sound, you may find the RH heads are not the best matchup. You might want to go more for the stuff that's similarly voiced without having to use EQ to "get there" like maybe the GK MB stuff or the GB Shuttle, or other similar... or... heck... just stick with the Carbine. Damn fine head IMHO. I have one as well as the RH750 and I'm not planning to sell the Carbine (or the RH, for that matter.)
 
#184
Vic said:
IMHO/IME, the Mesa goes deeper stronger. That can be good or bad depending on your preference.

FWIW, I have yet to hear one of the ultra-light amps truly compare to the dynamic behavior of the traditional power supply/amp designs, but they're definitely making great strides, and they are great even as they are now (my main gigging stuff).

From a tonal standpoint, the RH stuff is also a lot more "focused" than the Carbine heads... not as big on the lows and not as crisp on the highs. The closest thing I can think of to the Carbines in a ultra-light design is the GK MB stuff and maybe some of the GB ShuttleMax stuff. The RH stuff is a lot more classically voiced.
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Vic said:
True, but only if you open up the TweeterTone and bump the high end. Otherwise, the heads are really voiced identically if all the EQ is set the same and the TweeterTone is left alone.

The RH heads are still generally very classically voiced. You have to push the low and high end to get the big round bottom and crystalline highs that are native to the Mesa Carbines. I'm sure at least with the 750 you could get in the ballpark, but if you're really looking more for the Carbine type sound, you may find the RH heads are not the best matchup. You might want to go more for the stuff that's similarly voiced without having to use EQ to "get there" like maybe the GK MB stuff or the GB Shuttle, or other similar... or... heck... just stick with the Carbine. Damn fine head IMHO. I have one as well as the RH750 and I'm not planning to sell the Carbine (or the RH, for that matter.)
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Deja Vu...my bad (Brain)!

Thanks for all the responses!
 
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boriology101 said:
Yeah, I'm totally excited! BTW, How stunning is the DI? Can you please give me some comparable brand names? I'm now wondering to get an Avalon U5. I think I should just keep the money if the internal DI is that good!
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I doubt it's as "stunning" as a U5 but, if you're talking about using it at gigs, the U5 would be a waste of money. No one is going to hear the difference between even a mediocre internal DI and a U5 in a bar or at a wedding reception.

Now, recording, that's a whole different story.
 
#191
boriology101 said:
It took so long for me to put an order... but I'm finally getting one for me! I can't wait to get it :D

BTW, is there anyone tried out the DI out of RH750? How did you like it?
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I don't have a 750 but the DI on my 450 is wonderful. Similar to Munji's point, I have technically "better" DI's but I don't bring them to gigs as there's really no point. The DI on my RH is perfect for gigging.

A high-quality onboard DI, built-in tuner, pre-sets, and good sounding compressor make the RH such a great gigging amp. I'd like to upgrade to a 750 for tweetertone at some point, but it's not critical.
 
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Joelc73 said:
I don't have a 750 but the DI on my 450 is wonderful. Similar to Munji's point, I have technically "better" DI's but I don't bring them to gigs as there's really no point. The DI on my RH is perfect for gigging.

A high-quality onboard DI, built-in tuner, pre-sets, and good sounding compressor make the RH such a great gigging amp.
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+1 to everything.

And the DI in the 750 is identical.
 
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Thanks for the info. Yeah, it makes more sense that RH750's DI is good but not as good as highend DI(s) do like the U5 does. I'm now looking for a quality DI for a recording. The RH750 will be in my hands probably the end of next week so I will just try it first. I also ordered Markbass F500 as a backup unit. I will compare both DIs to see how they are different.
 
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boriology101 said:
Thanks for the info. Yeah, it makes more sense that RH750's DI is good but not as good as highend DI(s) do like the U5 does. I'm now looking for a quality DI for a recording. The RH750 will be in my hands probably the end of next week so I will just try it first. I also ordered Markbass F500 as a backup unit. I will compare both DIs to see how they are different.
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I have the RH450 and the MarkBass F1 (probably identical DI to the F500) -- I would use the TCE over the MarkBass for recording (and for gigging) any day of the week. Nothing really wrong with the MB, although some appear to have had issues with the DIs on some models (I'm thinking LM II specifically, but I'm not sure they're different on the F-series).

All usual caveats apply, of course.
 
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No pic no amp, so here we go:

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#198
GrowlerBox said:
Nothing really wrong with the MB, although some appear to have had issues with the DIs on some models (I'm thinking LM II specifically, but I'm not sure they're different on the F-series).
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Oh, what happened to DIs on LMII? I had LMIII before and I remember I didn't have any trouble with the DI from it although I am not sure the it's identical to the one of LMII's.
 
#199
boriology101 said:
NICE! what's your initial impression of the bass amp? I think I can guess how it's going to sound by seeing your EQing! :D
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:) Just had to check out that tubetone thing...;)

Initial impression is very good, and also confirms that the RH750 is the right choice for me. Not because of extra watts, but because of the tweetertone. As we all know, the feature set is amazing. In my case this rig also means a significant reduction in both bulk and weight. Nothing to dislike so far. :)
 
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boriology101 said:
Thanks for the info. Yeah, it makes more sense that RH750's DI is good but not as good as highend DI(s) do like the U5 does. I'm now looking for a quality DI for a recording. The RH750 will be in my hands probably the end of next week so I will just try it first. I also ordered Markbass F500 as a backup unit. I will compare both DIs to see how they are different.
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I just did recording session where there was a U5 and we used my Rh450 DI anyway. It is really a marvelous DI and in this case I wanted some tubetone and a little eq that the RH450 offers. best recorded tone I have ever produced by far. At a different sessions in a different studio, I used the pre-setting my DI and it was as quiet as a church mouse, giving a very flat baseline tone for the engineer to work with, and then we miked the cab for the colored tone.

If you dive into the rh450 thread youwill find many have similar experiences that when doing professional recording, the rh450 really delivers. Soundmen and engineers really like TC products and are familiar with them, so you don't get a wry look when you ask to use the rh450 DI. It hasn't let me down yet!
 
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