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TC Electronic RH750 ???!??

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#161
Raggy said:
Well I have just picked up an AE212 to go with my Streamliner 9 so that I have a smaller option than my NV412, and it sounds immense, a really good pairing I feel.
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See, I think our tone goals arent far off. I quite like a lot of heft to bass. I also (and this is for when I play the more aggressive music) like quite an aggressive stand-out tone, but thats when Im playing in certain bands.

At the moment, im more about nickels or flatwounds, P, J or some form of EBMM, knock down the treble, bump the mids...more of a big warm supportive tone, with a hit of a bump in the lo-mids.

Personally, lo-mids are REALLY my thing. I only realised that recently through learning via these forums. I always wondered why my old Trace amp 'smiley' EQ setup sounded a little thin!

How does the SL sound with the AE212?

Sorry, completely off topic.
 
#163
Hi,
I'm French and I don't know if it's the good place for my question or if I need to open a new trhead... said me...
So, I'm not arrive to choose between the GB STM-900 and the RH750...
I saw test between the RH450 and the STM and the result of many people are that the STM are more open at the top end, richer, cleaner, punchier, fatter... more defined.
I'm very interest to see a test beetwen the STM900 vs RH750...Were able to you to compare both? and what is the result?

thank's a lot...
 
#164
I've had both. I sold the Streamliner. :)

I would agree that the SL is more open on top and fatter but that's about it. I found the RH750 way more punchy and articulate with a bit more mids (which I like). This was through my Uber 410 cab. That's my 2.
 
#165
Having not tried the RH750, only the RH450, I think you can get very close to making the bottom just as fat on the RH as it is in the Streamliner, while simultaneously cutting upper mids. This is the default voicing on the Streamliner, but you have to use EQ to get there with the RH. However, the RH heads can dial in a whole lot more mid punch and upper-mid grind than the Streamliner heads can. They have the potential for a lot more versatility in their sound. By name, the Streamliner really tries to keep things simple, and while the EQ can definitely change the voicing of the head a great deal, the mids and upper-mids don't have as much flexibility in them.
 
#166
Slaine01 said:
Got myself a bergantino AE212 cab and found the RH450 just didnt give me the tone I liked out of the Berg.

Bought a Shuttle 9.0 and the amp/cab match sounds great ( the Berg seems to prefer a more hifi amp IMHO )

The Berg AE410 sounds awesome with the RH450 by the way - just the 212 that seems to not be great voicing? match.

My question is if anyone has tried a Berg AE212 with the new RH750 - mainly as I want to know if the Tweetertone makes gives it that hifi push that I think it needs for this cab.
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It's native voicing won't get you there, but if you don't mind boosting the highs AND opening up the TweeterTone, you could probably get there.
 
#167
K-Fra said:
Hi,
I'm French and I don't know if it's the good place for my question or if I need to open a new trhead... said me...
So, I'm not arrive to choose between the GB STM-900 and the RH750...
I saw test between the RH450 and the STM and the result of many people are that the STM are more open at the top end, richer, cleaner, punchier, fatter... more defined.
I'm very interest to see a test beetwen the STM900 vs RH750...Were able to you to compare both? and what is the result?

thank's a lot...
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Hi K-Fra,

I have both of those amps. Through my cabs (Berg AE 410 and AE 212), they both sound great. For me, the Streamliner sounds very "natural" and very punchy. The native voice of the preamp seems to be a great fit for both cabs. I usually have the bass at 10 - 11 o'clock on the 410, depending on the room we're playing, and maybe 9 - 10 o'clock on the 212. Other than playing a little with the volume and gain, that's the only tweaking I do and the amp ALWAYS sounds wonderful!

I haven't had the RH 750 as long. It also sounds great with these cabs. The amp is very transparent (i.e. "straight-wire-with-gain" transparent) and very immediate. I don't think it's any more "punchy" than the Streamliner, but it's SO fast. In this regard, it reminds me of the Markbass LM II that I owned for a year-or-so (but the LM sounded more colored/less hi fi to me). The RH 750 is also a tweaker delight!! I'm getting more deeply into the tone control center frequencies and TweeterTone. It's fun setting up the amp for different basses (i.e. the polite top of a BN5 vs the incredible highs of a Sadowsky).

If I could only have one ...? I suppose it would have to be the Streamliner. It's one of those rare amps that makes me smile every time I play it! Honestly, though, I could be very happy with the RH 750 as my only amp, too. The Streamliner is like a pocket knife with one or two incredibly sharp and useful blades, while the RH 750 is a massive Swiss-Army knive with gadgets I may never use (or fully understand).

Both are powerful, both are elegant, and both companies have great customer service. I don't think you can go wrong with either!

Greg

PS I just reread your list of adjectives. I would say that the Streamliner has a brighter, more "crystalline" high-end, and is "richer" and "fatter," while the RH 750 is "cleaner" and "more defined." As I mentioned earlier, I think they're equally punchy. I hope this helps ...
 
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Thank's...
I play actually on a Tecamp Bad Bull + Tecamp 810 + SWR M² and I love my sound.
I need a little amp and I hope to find a few of I like of my first set, perhaps the RH750 will be more easy for that with his modularity. With the Tecamp I have a phenomenal punch (but all is phenomenal in this amp) and if you said the RH750 has a better punch of the STM900 perhaps it's the best for me... I have also many bass and I find the memory are a really a great idea...To choose when we can't test it's always hard...


thank's Greg, in France it's hard for to find the STM in shop and the RH750 begin just to arrive...I think I'm going to wait again a little time for to test the 2 in a shop and for to choose the one who will correspond to me best...
 
#170
Vic said:
It's native voicing won't get you there, but if you don't mind boosting the highs AND opening up the TweeterTone, you could probably get there.
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I turn up both the TweeterTone and the tweeter attenuator on the back of the AE 212 (to maybe 3 o'clock or so). Adjusting both gets me pretty close to the high end of a Streamliner. I think the Shuttle can get higher still, but that would be overkill for me!

Greg
 
#171
K-Fra said:
With the Tecamp I have a phenomenal punch (but all is phenomenal in this amp) and if you said the RH750 has a better punch of the STM900 perhaps it's the best for me...
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Hi, K-Fra,

Actually, I didn't say that. I think they're both punchy, but in different ways. :p But I agree completely that it's a good idea to play through both first if you have the opportunity.

Good luck!
Greg
 
#172
gregbackstrom said:
Hi, K-Fra,

Actually, I didn't say that. I think they're both punchy, but in different ways. :p But I agree completely that it's a good idea to play through both first if you have the opportunity.

Good luck!
Greg
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Yes I know, the first part of my message is in answer at Husky123 and Eublet... and I have edit my message for you in the second part. I have not see your answer when I have write the first part ;) thank's :)
 
#177
husky123 said:
Does anyone have the Frequency Center Chart for the RH750? I see there is one posted for the RH450.....is it the same?
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As Jason says, it's the same, but in case you missed it earlier in the thread, note that the default settings on the RH750 are not all set at those centers when you get the head. Just press the shift button and you'll see what's going on.
 
#178
Vic said:
As Jason says, it's the same, but in case you missed it earlier in the thread, note that the default settings on the RH750 are not all set at those centers when you get the head. Just press the shift button and you'll see what's going on.
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Yes, thanks Vic I caught that from your post earlier. Bass is at -4 I believe.

Anywho's I'm wondering because I'm having a little mud problem at rehearsal volume. I bump my low mids a couple of notches and leave the bass "flat" (meaning default freq. center). Bedroom level it sounds fine but turning up it quickly becomes way too bassy with my Uber 410 cab. I've cut the bass to -4 and this seems to tighten it up.

Just wondering if maybe changing my bass frequency center a tad lower will open the head up a tad and not cause the bass and low mid frequency to overlap. Thoughts?
 
#179
Not sure if you've done this before, but BIC - Boost, Isolate, Cut.

Boost low mids to max, then hit shift and sweep the frequencies until you isolate that muddy frequency. It should jump out at you very loudly when you get on it. Then hit shift again, and cut that frequency by 2 or 3 clicks. You might have to boost bottom end some if the sound gets thin.

All this is assuming that the muddy sound is coming from the low-mids, and not the bass itself, which is more typical I think even though folks tend to think it comes from the sub lows. I find that a lot of time cutting low-mids around 300-400 hz really takes that muddy sound out, and then you can push a bit more low-end with the bass knob set around 150-250 hz. Then add a click of upper mids if you need more definition. The very wide Q on the RH heads covers a large range, so don't cut too much. Just a touch will do. See how this works.
 
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