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#22,661
Pontiac Thrasher said:
That would be a deal breaker for me, over the course of about six weeks with this new band I went from (band provided) Fender Rumble200 working great at first rehearsal to being concerned about damaging it at second rehearsal when it was dime'd and making weird noises... Then to Fender Super Twin with two JBL 15's fine at third rehearsal to concern for JBL'S throwing their cones thru the grill cloth at fourth rehearsal..., So, then, at fifth rehearsal a pair of Peavey heads, one driving a pair of JBL 15's, and the other a pair of JBL 18's, one head fried towards end of that rehearsal!

That led me to say "screw it" and at sixth rehearsal I deployed the "Nuclear Option," robbed my pa rack and showed up with it's 3000 Watt Peavey Amp, preamp, and pedals.

So what combo might work in this situation? I am currently sending 950 Watts to two JBL 18's, aboutish 350 Watts to two JBL 15's, and the band seems to have backed off turning up the volume, for now.

Should I just build a custom cab for one 18" JBL along with incorporating the rack, and build into it a forklift while I am at it?

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Sounds like you don't have a "Battle of the Bands"...you have a Battle of the Band Members ;).
 
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Joseph Lavallo said:
I have the fender stage with the extension cab. I never use the extension because the 2x 10 is insanely loud at 400 watts. ... ... On its own the Fender sounds great. I want the option of slanting the cab without needing to carry a stand. ... ... ...
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How 'bout this ...

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Or maybe this ...

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SoulReflection said:
Sounds like you don't have a "Battle of the Bands"...you have a Battle of the Band Members ;).
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Exactly, but socially non-combative, we are all having lotsa fun, it's more like where will this lead where we will be welcomed...?

Snicker : )

We do not have a name yet, have been thinking of suggesting "Too Loud"
 
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My guitar player is so chill. He adjusts to whatever I ask him to. We do mostly paid gigs. Sometimes there are dinner crowds. If you don't get asked back you can soon run out of places to play.

As far as combos. Most newer 2x10 combos will be dam loud. The fender stage 800 with the extension cab pushes 800 watts and each cab is 38lbs. The boss Katana has a 2x10 now. The rumbles are also great. When I was playing with some deaf guitar players and their 1/2 stacks, the stage 800 with ext cab never was up past 1/3 rd volume. Comes with the foot switch too.
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Joseph Lavallo said:
My guitar player is so chill. He adjusts to whatever I ask him to. We do mostly paid gigs. Sometimes there are dinner crowds. If you don't get asked back you can soon run out of places to play.

As far as combos. Most newer 2x10 combos will be dam loud. The fender stage 800 with the extension cab pushes 800 watts and each cab is 38lbs. The boss Katana has a 2x10 now. The rumbles are also great. When I was playing with some deaf guitar players and their 1/2 stacks, the stage 800 with ext cab never was up past 1/3 rd volume. Comes with the foot switch too.View attachment 4885698
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That is awesome : )

Seems like Mesa Engineering is in a great position to do something close to that, their Subway 115 is 37lbs and the D800+ doesn't weigh much...
 
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Pontiac Thrasher said:
That would be a deal breaker for me, over the course of about six weeks with this new band I went from (band provided) Fender Rumble200 working great at first rehearsal to being concerned about damaging it at second rehearsal when it was dime'd and making weird noises... Then to Fender Super Twin with two JBL 15's fine at third rehearsal to concern for JBL'S throwing their cones thru the grill cloth at fourth rehearsal..., So, then, at fifth rehearsal a pair of Peavey heads, one driving a pair of JBL 15's, and the other a pair of JBL 18's, one head fried towards end of that rehearsal!

That led me to say "screw it" and at sixth rehearsal I deployed the "Nuclear Option," robbed my pa rack and showed up with it's 3000 Watt Peavey Amp, preamp, and pedals.

So what combo might work in this situation? I am currently sending 950 Watts to two JBL 18's, aboutish 350 Watts to two JBL 15's, and the band seems to have backed off turning up the volume, for now.

Should I just build a custom cab for one 18" JBL along with incorporating the rack, and build into it a forklift while I am at it?

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Just curious why rehearsals hafta be so effing loud. When we rehearse new material, we use our smallest amps (barely on), drummer uses a snare and hi-hat, maybe a bass drum, no mics for vocals.
 
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GonePlaid said:
Just curious why rehearsals hafta be so effing loud. When we rehearse new material, we use our smallest amps (barely on), drummer uses a snare and hi-hat, maybe a bass drum, no mics for vocals.
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IMO rehearsals only hafta be loud in relation to the maturity of the band's members.
Even as an audience member I will walk away from bands that play at dangerous hearing levels. I like music... I also like my ears, and want to retain what hearing I have left!
 
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Greywoulf said:
IMO rehearsals only hafta be loud in relation to the maturity of the band's members.
Even as an audience member I will walk away from bands that play at dangerous hearing levels. I like music... I also like my ears, and want to retain what hearing I have left!
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Rehearsals that escalate in volume are not an amp problem, they are a monitor problem. Gigs that escalate in volume are either that or over-enthusiasm (hence the age thing). With modern PA sound reinforcement those stage amps seem really big.
 
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JohnMalay said:
Rehearsals that escalate in volume are not an amp problem, they are a monitor problem. Gigs that escalate in volume are either that or over-enthusiasm (hence the age thing). With modern PA sound reinforcement those stage amps seem really big.
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When I suggested that mature musicians didn't hafta ~BLAST~ their music I wasn't referring to their ages... :p
 
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Greywoulf said:
When I suggested that mature musicians didn't hafta ~BLAST~ their music I wasn't referring to their ages... :p
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Ya but, maturity does enter into it IMHO! I have lamented my need for hearing aids because of loud music back then but, they do have a plus. They know when they are overloaded and let you know. Too bad my ears didn't have that "feature" back then ;).
 
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SoulReflection said:
Ya but, maturity does enter into it IMHO! I have lamented my need for hearing aids because of loud music back then but, they do have a plus. They know when they are overloaded and let you know. Too bad my ears didn't have that "feature" back then ;).
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When the lady watches that damn TV news (always!) in the next room now I can turn my hearing aids alla way down and I'm deaf enough that it becomes a sometimes cherished lovely silence... ~Ahhhhhhh..... :smug:
 
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Historically I enjoy noise-canceling headphones, and been through more than a few over time. That's a lot of air miles to wear out two pairs. The things cut jet engine noise like your favourite metaphor. Senns, three generations of Senns. However

The AKG studio cans (K245, discontinued) wipe the floor with the noise-canceling headset (HD 4.5BNTC, discontinued).

The signal path is my combo's DI to the PreSonus DAW, and back through the DAW's headphone return. The PJB combo allows me to do silent recording without a fan, and without unplugging anything. I leave the PJB's limiter on at a very low setting (the compression ratio is 3dB to 1), and as far as I know never yet triggered it.
 
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I have Beats Studio 3 cans. One pair was given me by work. When I thought they had walked off at a gig, I bought a second pair as they worked well for me for stage use. Work also gave me a set of Airpods Pro. (Both were holiday gifts.) Somewhere I have a pair of AKGs I bought used. They worked OK, but hurt my head after an hour.
 
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JohnMalay said:
Rehearsals that escalate in volume are not an amp problem, they are a monitor problem. Gigs that escalate in volume are either that or over-enthusiasm (hence the age thing). With modern PA sound reinforcement those stage amps seem really big.
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Then there's this:
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GonePlaid said:
OK, but not in a living room that barely has enuff space for all the band members, much less their gear.
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I agree!

We are lucky to be on a 3rd floor open loft in a 25,000 sq ft building with about a 48 foot tall ceiling, it's almost like playing outdoors which was one of my challenges since the bass is pretty much aimed out into space.
 
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