The Combo Club

[iagtrplyr]

That's part of my quandary, iagtrplyr, the control-freak in me dunno what to do about the Vox's clean DO! Suggestions would be appreciated.

Had a thought in the shower last night. Hey, don't knock it until you've tried it. Anyway, I was wondering if you could run a pedal between the direct out and the board? I kicked around the idea of running either a modeling pedal for all kinds of options or something more dedicated to a tone you happen to like, possibly a VT pedal. That way you have the tone you want to hear straight from the amp to your ear, and the tone you set up that goes directly to the board. Okay, club, go ahead and tear this idea apart.

 

[G-Dog]

Had a thought in the shower last night. Hey, don't knock it until you've tried it. Anyway, I was wondering if you could run a pedal between the direct out and the board? I kicked around the idea of running either a modeling pedal for all kinds of options or something more dedicated to a tone you happen to like, possibly a VT pedal. That way you have the tone you want to hear straight from the amp to your ear, and the tone you set up that goes directly to the board. Okay, club, go ahead and tear this idea apart.

Couldn't the VT go before the amp? That way I could enjoy it's tone, also.

Ooooo, or a Fender Mustang Floor unit! Like @ghostinthemach uses in his Rumble Studio 60 prototype! I could have the first ever Vox Studio 50 prototype!

Say, iago, I been thinking about moving to ia. Where, exactly, do you live, neighbor?

 

[Killed_by_Death]

The Vox's speaker is mounted behind a front wooden baffle,

Are you sure?
I thought that was ABS like the rest of the cabinet.

I was trying to cop a Trace Elliott timbre for days, but coming up close but not quite. There's a guy demoing a Rickenbacker 4004 with a TE AH600-12 & it's crazy bright.
The EQ on his amp is a graphic smiley face. Maybe I could just use some SS strings, though.

 

[Two-Spirit]

My last amp was an Ampeg BA115v2. I'm getting a Markbass Marcus Miller 1×10 with 60 watts. My Ampeg was too loud for home, if I ever get to play again I really like 115s.

 

[iagtrplyr]

Couldn't the VT go before the amp? That way I could enjoy it's tone, also.

Ooooo, or a Fender Mustang Floor unit! Like @ghostinthemach uses in his Rumble Studio 60 prototype! I could have the first ever Vox Studio 50 prototype!

Say, iago, I been thinking about moving to ia. Where, exactly, do you live, neighbor?

A half-hour north of the Quads. You'd love it, but I must caution you that we have up to a foot of snow possibly rolling in on Sunday. IA weather is like my bass amp lineup...it's always changing!

Yeah, I thought about sticking a pedal at the front, but if I'm reading this correctly it won't affect the sound coming out the rear, right? You won't be changing your tone to the board at all. By placing it after the Direct Out you'll enhance what the board receives and take it out to the peoples from through the PA. I read the schematic last night and the Direct Out, as I believe KbD explained, bypasses the entire shooting match, even the Nutube, which is dumb if you ask me. So you could break into Ghostie's castle floor pedal for the front and pick up a pedal of your choice for the backend.

 

[iagtrplyr]

Are you sure?
I thought that was ABS like the rest of the cabinet.

I was trying to cop a Trace Elliott timbre for days, but coming up close but not quite. There's a guy demoing a Rickenbacker 4004 with a TE AH600-12 & it's crazy bright.
The EQ on his amp is a graphic smiley face. Maybe I could just use some SS strings, though.

To answer your question, KbD: "In addition, wood is used for the baffle, achieving the optimal resonance for a bass amp." http://www.voxamps.com/VX50BA

The cab is a one-piece ABS polymer. Interesting idea I would've never thought could sound decent, but it's the 21st Century and anything is possible. Dang, I need to get one of these things. Did you guys pay the normal out-the-door price or were you able to shave a little off the top?

 

[iagtrplyr]

My last amp was an Ampeg BA115v2. I'm getting a Markbass Marcus Miller 1×10 with 60 watts. My Ampeg was too loud for home, if I ever get to play again I really like 115s.

Two-Spirit, how are ya? Say, I looked at our roster and noticed you're not on it. Take a picture of your Markbass when you get it, or send in an oldie of your 'Peg, and I'll add you to our esteem list of scholars. Regardless, you're welcome here any old time. The MM looks to be very interesting. I'm sure you know it's got an ext. speaker output so you can always run a 15" cab whenever you need it. I own a Micromark 801 and add my Ampeg PF-115 to it when I want a little more boom while noodling. So don't lose hope!

 

[Boogie Woogie]

I've oppened another topic but no much reply there, so maybe here's the place for my question.
Are the small home practice combos capable of making this sound (Pop-Allround sound) or I should buy a bigger one? Txs

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[GwenOnBass]

Why did the cranberry sauce cross the road?







To get to the other sides.

 

[G-Dog]

Why did the cranberry sauce cross the road?







To get to the other sides.

Ha, hahahahaaa! Happy Thanksgiving, Combo Club!

 

[GwenOnBass]

It's complicated, how sound (from our loud combo's : ) is perceived...

My drummer and I both wore hearing protection that protected us from everything but the deep bass, those hardware store headphone type. It really aided our being able to hear one another by muting the rythym and lead guitarists.

Leads me to two questions:

Could your guitarist hear you ok when the drummer could not?

And:

Did anyone in your group wear earplugs that may have thrown off their perception ratio wise of: bass to mid to highs?

Yes I recall the guitarist could hear me, this is now two years ago!

 

[Boogie Woogie]

I have small guitar combos already (15 and 30 wats) and can get pretty much every sound I want out of them. But for small bass combos I've heard different things, that's why I ask this..

Anyone?

 

[GwenOnBass]

Are you sure?
I thought that was ABS like the rest of the cabinet.

I was trying to cop a Trace Elliott timbre for days, but coming up close but not quite. There's a guy demoing a Rickenbacker 4004 with a TE AH600-12 & it's crazy bright.
The EQ on his amp is a graphic smiley face. Maybe I could just use some SS strings, though.

Over yonder at the string forum you guys are having some fun and I don't care if they're SS or magically infused invisible pink unicorn strings - my "clanky" string of choice is / was Dean Markley Super Rounds. Now they don't make those anymore, at least by that name. One change for sure is the golden silks are gone. As to what the string sounds like to me - it sounds like broken-in Rotos. The Swing Bass 66, the cheese graters. The DMs had all that is good about broken-in Rotos and they last a pretty long time before I want to replace them.

As to the current Dean Markley offerings, I'd say worth a shot.

 

[Killed_by_Death]

I tried Dean Markley Blues Steel SS on the G&L L-2000 & at first they were just a boomy mess. Took them a bit to break.
I'm not recalling if they were crazy bright, but I was able to achieve the same level of brightness with my Ibanez that I put new GHS Progressives on.

To answer your question, KbD: "In addition, wood is used for the baffle, achieving the optimal resonance for a bass amp." http://www.voxamps.com/VX50BA

Oops, I was just poking at the grille, which I was confounding with baffle.

 

[GwenOnBass]

Had a thought in the shower last night. Hey, don't knock it until you've tried it. Anyway, I was wondering if you could run a pedal between the direct out and the board? I kicked around the idea of running either a modeling pedal for all kinds of options or something more dedicated to a tone you happen to like, possibly a VT pedal. That way you have the tone you want to hear straight from the amp to your ear, and the tone you set up that goes directly to the board. Okay, club, go ahead and tear this idea apart.

This is pretty much my thinking here in these now-a-go-go days of the future.

Use my VT in the signal chain for my DI, and use the VT to sculpt the tone I want for FOH. My PBJ IBG-400 (or whatever, ultralight Vox yummy) is my stage monitor and put the thing behind the drums, hey? LOL.

TBH actually thinking this very thing as I imagine a pedal board. The VT is the last in the signal chain. Since the VT's speaker simulation acts as a LPF, won't need that on the board. Drop in a compressor of choice, a HPF, and tuner and done. Really don't even need the tuner except as a mute. The BG-400 has a tuner-out I use, and there's the TC headstock tuner that feels dead on.

All very new ways of thinking since the time I carry the room on my rig alone.

Speaking of tuning, bit of an update. The Gotoh tuning machines are definitely crackerjack. The balance of the bass is marginally better for a bass that was never designed with ergonomics in mind. The short scale is far more fun for me that I ever imagined. The neck feels really good, happy as a bass player could ever be.

Short of regular gigs, that is.

- M


oh remember that fake ID I got so I can order from the kids menu? Used it to get in to see the science lesson and I wanna take that ride again!

 

[GwenOnBass]

I tried Dean Markley Blues Steel SS on the G&L L-2000 & at first they were just a boomy mess. Took them a bit to break.
I'm not recalling if they were crazy bright, but I was able to achieve the same level of brightness with my Ibanez that I put new GHS Progressives on.




Oops, I was just poking at the grille, which I was confounding with baffle.

The G&L is a hot bass out of the starting gate, and there's only about 38 billion tone combinations available so BTSOM. It's a given my tonal memory is shot given all the shots that magically appear before me at your average lemonade stand. I was playing the DMs on my 'Ray through a Fender Bassman to 1x15s or through my Peavey Gonna Eat That rig-o-death.

So really no idea what the Dean Markleys of today's production runs are all about other than being an excellent match for the Epiphone Casidy.

 

[GonePlaid]

I have small guitar combos already (15 and 30 wats) and can get pretty much every sound I want out of them. But for small bass combos I've heard different things, that's why I ask this..

Anyone?

I've been happy with my Rumbles(40 and 200c), but I think it depends on what kind of tone(s) you want to put out front. When I bought the 200c I also tried the R100, liked it for the weight and sound but wanted the extension speaker capability of the R200c-which I have found I don't need. Try a few and see which fits what you wanna do.

 

[woodyng2]

My Mutant hybrid. The Mesa cab has the 8 ohm speaker. Pairs nicely with the LM ii combo head.
Using it with my Markbass cmd121p combo with the head unit replaced by Markbass 800 tube amp for a stereo mini-rig of doom.

 

[GwenOnBass]

View attachment 3223267 My Mutant hybrid. The Mesa cab has the 8 ohm speaker. Pairs nicely with the LM ii combo head.
Using it with my Markbass cmd121p combo with the head unit replaced by Markbass 800 tube amp for a stereo mini-rig of doom.

Wanna hear this one!

 

[woodyng2]

Wanna hear this one!

I’ve only gotten to hear it one time at a band practice a few days ago,for about an hour.
it retains a lot of what i like about my markbass 1-12 combo,but the Mesa cab has more depth to the sound,a really nice room-filling bass,and the horn/tweeter sounds very smooth too.
Really looking forward to hooking both combos up at an upcoming gig December 1.