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The direction music is headed?

#81
Some great thoughts going on!

Just a quick update. When I posted this yesterday there were 2.7 Million youtube views. As of this posting there are now 5.9 Million views. Not Lady GaGa numbers of course but impressive nonetheless.

While I understand it was first noticed for being terrible, that's 3.2 Million views in less then 24 hours. Granted, this thread and I'm sure many, many more have contributed to it, but I'm leaning toward genius...

Also... "Rebecca Black - "Friday" Single NOW ON ITUNES !"
 
#82
#85
Egads... whine, whine, whine, whine... I GUARANTEE that musical snobs have been complaining about the decline of the quality of music since polyphonic chording was invented 1000 years ago. Ever since the music industry sorta got its act together with mass distribution in the 1950s or so, there's always been crappy, cheesy music that sells like gang busters. Every single era has its Justin Bieber or Shawn Cassidy. There's plenty of one-hit wonders that sold a crapload and then were abandoned by the music industry going back as far as the 1950s.

My grandparents thought the stuff coming out in the 1960s was utter crap. My parents thought the stuff coming out in the 1980s was crap. My friends all seem to think the stuff coming out today is all crap..... It's an old and trite thought that's been said a billion times before.

There's plenty of great music out there. In fact, the ability for good musicians to get their stuff out to people has never been easier or more accessible. The same tools that allow hacks to put up whatever they want allows great musicians to put up whatever they want, too.

I remember someone doing a psychological study a number of years back. They studied a bunch of people of all ages. They found out that people when they turn about 35 years old stop buying new music, and only buy what they grew up with and listened to in their 20s. It's no coincidence. People get stodgy and pine for the music of yore, no matter how old they are.

Good talent always makes good music, no matter what the technology presents itself with at any given time, and pretty people selling bubblegum music will always outsell quality stuff. It's just human nature. That is the playing field. Now, people can either whine about how better things used to be, or, if they're so knowledgeable, they can step up, go out and create some music that proves just how bad they perceive modern music to be.
 
#86
Try this ... go to youtube and search top 10 songs for Feb 2011 ... or any other month in the last several months. Pop music is no longer made with drums, guitars, and basses. It is made with computer programs, drum machines, and pitch corrected vocals. Some of the modern songs are actually good songs. They just sound lame because it is all artifical music that has no soul to it.

To hear a song where someone is actually PLAYING a stringed instrument or a real drum you have to search alternative, or country, or metal, or modern rock.

After searching for a while I think the kind of music that I like is "alternative" ...

So pop music is not made with guitars any more. Guitar bands are an "alternative" to pop music. In other words guitar bands are not the mainstream these days.
 
#88
BigOldHarry said:
ummm - isn't this kids music? Specifically, teen-female kids music?

How is this in anyway reflective of music in general?

Bubblegum music has always had two things: cute girls and bad tunes. What's new?
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True, but I have a 9 year old daughter and I'm exposed to lots of bubblegum music and this is a new level. Maybe they are testing to see how far they can go and just how dumb the masses truly are.
On an intelligence level I would put this song on the same level as the Teletubbies.
Sesame Street is more advanced.
I played this for my daughter and thank God she thought it was dumb.:hyper:
I gotta admit I am starting to feel sorry for this girl.
 
#89
Ric5 said:
Try this ... go to youtube and search top 10 songs for Feb 2011 ... or any other month in the last several months. Pop music is no longer made with drums, guitars, and basses. It is made with computer programs, drum machines, and pitch corrected vocals. Some of the modern songs are actually good songs. They just sound lame because it is all artifical music that has no soul to it.

To hear a song where someone is actually PLAYING a stringed instrument or a real drum you have to search alternative, or country, or metal, or modern rock.

After searching for a while I think the kind of music that I like is "alternative" ...

So pop music is not made with guitars any more. Guitar bands are an "alternative" to pop music. In other words guitar bands are not the mainstream these days.
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Exactly. Look up Massive Attack or Tricky, Daft Punk... there's plenty of great music that doesn't have any "real" instruments involved. Just because it's computer generated doesn't make it bad.

Also, drum replacement on tracks is the norm these days. Pretty much all major label music out there does it unless they explicitly say that they don't. While it's not the same as a programmed drum track, it's not actually real drums being played. Think of any Red Hot Chili Peppers song recorded in the last 10 years, all of those harder bands like DefTones and such. I'm pretty sure they all use drum replacements after the basic real drum tracks are recorded. While it's based on actual drums being played, there's a huge amount of after the fact manual manipulation that happens.

Also, it was a dark secret, but pretty much all major music in the last 15 years has used Autotune. Cher's "Do You Believe" was the first major hit to openly use it as a vocoder-type effect, but it was released in 1998. Outboard racks of Autotune had become a fixture in major studios by then, but it was a dirty little secret that major studios hid pretty well. I'm guessing that 99.999% of the songs produced in the 2000s that you heard on the radio were Autotuned.

It's just some stuff to think about.
 
#90
ster said:
True, but I have a 9 year old daughter and I'm exposed to lots of bubblegum music and this is a new level. Maybe they are testing to see how far they can go and just how dumb the masses truly are.
On an intelligence level I would put this song on the same level as the Teletubbies.
Sesame Street is more advanced.
I played this for my daughter and thank God she thought it was dumb.:hyper:
I gotta admit I am starting to feel sorry for this girl.
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You know what was also a dumb as all get-go song? "Louie, Louie." So was some of that crap by Captain and Tennille. "Push it Real Hard" by that 1980s group was terrible, and a HUGE hit. What about that "Barbie Girl" song by Aqua that came out 7-8 years ago? Egads, that was mindnumbingly dumb.
 
#92
Ubersheist said:
You know what was also a dumb as all get-go song? "Louie, Louie." So was some of that crap by Captain and Tennille. "Push it Real Hard" by that 1980s group was terrible, and a HUGE hit. What about that "Barbie Girl" song by Aqua that came out 7-8 years ago? Egads, that was mindnumbingly dumb.
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Actually that Barbie song came out in 97'
<feeling old at 23

But I gotta say, even worse than that was that stupid Blue song by Eiffel 65. I listened to it again not to long agoand felt embarassed to belong to the same species as these nar-nars.
but still better than this p.o.s.:hmm:
 
#93
Waterpilot said:
Rebecca Black - Friday

2.7 MILLION views since February 10, 2011.

Genius or the sad state of music today?


YouTube - Rebecca Black - Friday (OFFICIAL VIDEO)
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:^D Oh man, that's a hilarious track/video! Right down to the inserted rap for "street cred". LOL

She cannot stop smiling; her face's in danger of splitting open like a ripe pumpkin. :^>
And her vocal tone has got to be identical to her speaking voice, with pitch added. Unbelievably nasal.

However: if she was the daughter of one of my friends, (I'm 50), I'd think she was the sweetest thing!

But like someone else already said: it's bubblegum teen pop. I wouldn't take it as a reflection on music in general. It's a product of a certain demographic, marketed to a certain demographic.
 
#94
pbasswil said:
:^D Oh man, that's a hilarious track/video! Right down to the inserted rap for "street cred". LOL

She cannot stop smiling; her face's in danger of splitting open like a ripe pumpkin. :^>
And her vocal tone has got to be identical to her speaking voice, with pitch added. Unbelievably nasal.

However: if she was the daughter of one of my friends, (I'm 50), I'd think she was the sweetest thing!

But like someone else already said: it's bubblegum teen pop. I wouldn't take it as a reflection on music in general. It's a product of a certain demographic, marketed to a certain demographic.
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I know I have been taking this way too seriously. Obviously this is targeted squarely at the pre teen market. It sure has caught fire. Publicity (positive or negative) plus millions of youtube hits are what they want.
 
#95
ster said:
I know I have been taking this way too seriously. Obviously this is targeted squarely at the pre teen market. It sure has caught fire. Publicity (positive or negative) plus millions of youtube hits are what they want.
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Cha-ching! There's something to be said for folks who can take very careful aim, and nail their target. (Her ace marketing team.)
 
#97
OOZMAN said:
I lolled.



It's times like these I thank christ I listen to metal. A lot of my friends listen to only this top 20 pop rubbish. I literally cannot say enough bad things about modern pop. However, when people say stuff like 'The music industry is dead' etc I do believe they are basing these statements from pop music. Metal is at a high a quality as ever, and I'm sure that fact applies to many other genres.
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While this is true, IMHO the quality of band NAMES in the metal genre had gone down the tubes fast. Its pretty hard to take a band named Maggot Death Fist or Nihilistic Carcass seriously.
 
#98
This is truly awful. Sure this particular song may just be popular for being a "sick joke" of a song, but music like this is still pouring in and people do actually like a good portion of it.

I find it sad that my generation will be remembered by this sh*t.

I say we call for a MUSIC REVOLUTION. War is at hand, gentlemen. We must prepare for battle or for extinction. We must rise together as the keepers of the groove and smite the evil plague that spreads through the airwaves. We must unite with Drummers, Pianists, even Guitarists and any others that wish to keep the music alive if we are to succeed in this dangerous mission. "Axes" at hand.

Who is with me?????!!!!!!!!!
 
#99
MOTORHEADBANGER said:
This is truly awful. Sure this particular song may just be popular for being a "sick joke" of a song, but music like this is still pouring in and people do actually like a good portion of it.

I find it sad that my generation will be remembered by this sh*t.

I say we call for a MUSIC REVOLUTION. War is at hand, gentlemen. We must prepare for battle or for extinction. We must rise together as the keepers of the groove and smite the evil plague that spreads through the airwaves. We must unite with Drummers, Pianists, even Guitarists and any others that wish to keep the music alive if we are to succeed in this dangerous mission. "Axes" at hand.

Who is with me?????!!!!!!!!!
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AYE!!!
 

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