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The Eagle Has Landed!!! Sadowsky All-Tube Head!!!

#262
Mr. Sadowsky,

Thanks for that explaination. It actually made some sense to me. I've often wondered what it is about my MV5 with no mid control made it sound so good in the mix out front... (I usually try to go wireless and hear what I sound like out front).. It always seems odd to me, that on my other basses that have excellent mid controls.. I use the mids the most often to dial in my tone, and yet on the MV5..... I never miss the mid controls.

But since I haven't had the MV5 that long, I figured it was jsut lack of experience. Now it makes more sense.!
 
#264
SMASH said:
What I'm curious about, admittedly just on a discussion level since I'm not a tube amp guy for bass, is how can you cut through a dense mix or boomy room if you needed to with no EQing on the amp between 80 Hz (Bass) and 800 Hz (Mid). I find all my cutting through is done at the 250-400 Hz area. Add that Sadowsky basses have no mids control (no problem there IMO as far as a bass goes), isn't there a potential problem there overall if pairing the amp with a Sadowsky bass or any bass that is lacking in those key mids? Or is the amp voiced heavy in that range naturally? :confused:
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I definitely hear what you are saying, but in practice, yes, I think you can handle a boomy room or a dense mix with this EQ. Despite what seems like perhaps a lot of uncovered ground in the mids, the EQ is surprisingly flexible, given the manner in which the tone controls interact. Also, a mid cut can be achieved by boosting the lows/highs, and a mid boost can be introducted by cutting the lows/highs. Plus, the "clean" and "fat" settings offer additional tonal flexibility.

Others may be able to more adequately explain how it works. [Edit: Ah, I see Roger just did! Thanks! :D] I just know that for my uses, the EQ on the SA200 functions beautifully.

Tom.
 
#265
Fuzzbass said:
P.S. I'm grateful to Tom for all of his comments here @Talkbass. He is as unbiased as anyone here, clearly stating differences between facts and personal opinion. His goal is to provide information, not sell product. I don't believe anyone has said or implied otherwise, I'm just giving holiday thanks!
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Wow! Thank you for your kind words. I really do appreciate it. Back atcha for all that you contribute here on TB as well! :)
 
#270
Sadowsky said:
I know I could increase my "market share" by offering a 3 band EQ. I understand a lot of you like a 3 band. It is a decision I still struggle with. But I am convinced that a lot of the success of the Sadowsky tone has to do with that midrange attenuation centered at 300Hz. This is based solely on the feedback I receive from working bassists and my own experience with listening to a variety of basses in a live situation.

Roger
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Thanks for another of your insightful posts, Roger. I'm one of those guys that keeps pestering you for 3-band EQ. In fact, the lack of it kept me from buying your basses for a long time. Then I discovered the Modern 5-24, and it was a lot easier to get the tone I require.

As far as mid controls, I have my Laklands set at 700 hz. I don't want any 200-300 hz mud in my sound either, but having the option to kick up the high mids a bit makes it easier to get that growly tone I and many others desire. On the 5-24, the tone controls remain flat, with only an occasional minor boost on the bass. It's a fantastic sound. So fantastic, I've got the Munjibunga Tuxedo Bass on order ... well it's actually more like a white dinner jacket, so I'll be able to play it only between Memorial day and Labor day.

I still believe you should offer a 3-band option and, yes, I think you would get more market share ... maybe even cut Dan's pot of gold a little. Just make the mid semi-parametric and, if you must, have it control only 500 hz and up. Of course, if you made it boost/cut, people could use it to index out those evil low mids you hate.

Anyway, you do that for me and, sure enough, I will buy another one of your basses just to get the EQ.

Thanks for listening. No response required.

Munji
 
#272
Larry Kaye said:
Nino..first...On the Schroeder megathread, there have been several guys, Including Tom Bowlus, correct Tom?, who have either said the Schroe's are not for them or have explained in more depth what it specifically was that caused their negative opinion.
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I'm not really familiar with that thread but I did a quick search:

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tombowlus said:
Well, I'll share what I can. To my ears, the Schroeder line has a very full low midranage, and they are certainly very efficient. My own personal take is that they are not really "flat" or "accurate", but it sounds like a lot of guys like how their tone sits in a band setting.
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Seems to me that Tom has tried a Schroeder Cab and doesnt like based on his experience.

What I read from your post that I quoted is:
"Tom doesnt like the Schroeder cab(s) so I don't like the Sadowsky Amp"
 
#275
Roger, Thanks again for the great reply. I have noticed one thing consistently with my Sadowskys. It takes me a minimum amount of tweaking to get a great tone. And I have yet to play and not have at least one "bass player" in the audience come up to me and ask me about my tone. I set my Amp flat and do a minimal amount of tweaking at best, the good tone is just in the bass.

I have owned Alembic (Distalite), Warwick (Thumb NT 6), Pedulla (MVP 6- 2 Buzzes) Fender (Dlx Amer Jazz) Tobias (Killer B, Basic) and a Pre Fender Kubicki Factor. All had some form of mid range control and with those basses the mid-range control was the key to getting good tone in any situation. I could get "my tone" out of all of them, it just took more tweaking. I find with the Sadowskys, I plug em in and I sound good! Works for me.
 
#280
Munjibunga said:
No need. Behringer should have it out in a couple months.
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Ya, but it'll be a package rig. The head will be 110 watts pushing one of their kickass 8-10 cabs! Although I will bet you can run that BehriDowsky head at 2 ohms and it'll thump like 125 watts into TWO of their 8-10's! :rollno:

I am waiting to buy anything else until Behringer comes out with it! :scowl: :hiding:
 

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