Foo Fighters ain't emo, infact they are pretty good
Dave Grohl is going to be featured on the new Motorhead album too.
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The Emo Thread
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Foo Fighters ain't emo, infact they are pretty good
Dave Grohl is going to be featured on the new Motorhead album too.
They've drifted, but the first couple Foo Fighters albums definitely had some heavy early/mid-90s emo influences. Their bass player and original drummer were from Sunny Day Real Estate after all.Foo Fighters ain't emo, infact they are pretty good
Dave Grohl is going to be featured on the new Motorhead album too.
Believe me, sir, I have listened to plenty of emo music. Hell, I've studied Mongolian music and listened to those on roadtrips, you don't think I know anything about emo music other than how to make fun of emos with stereotypes?
And saying that emo kids are weak, it doesn't necessarily mean physically can't bench over 100lbs. I mean they are mentally weak. And I said that violence should not be ended in a jokingly fashion given how pathetic I feel emo music makers are.
When I was about to hit puberty, I was given the choice. Penis or feelings. I chose penis.
I've got no problem with emo music in general, in fact I could care less (well actually, technically, no I couldn't care less) My problem is the fanbase, at least around here.
Elitist kids in girls jeans saying that people don't understand real love because I don't kiss other dudes. Its just a simple matter of not swinging that way. I don't care if you do either, I just think its also a bit closeminded to cross off everyone because they aren't bisexual or gay.
I'm not saying that emo kids everywhere are like this, but a good number of them in my neck of the woods are.
I disagree with many of the things in the emo life style. Namely the girls jeans, eye makeup, snake bite piercings, and more Aquanet hair gel than all of White Snake put together. I also don't how a boy wearing woman's clothing is socially acceptable or even considered fashionable. Back in my day, if a dude wore a girls clothes, he was called a cross dresser. Call me old fashioned.
I disagree with emo music insofar as that, to me, it all sounds the same. I'm sure people who like it could tell me "oh thats so and so, isn't it obvious?!" To me it isn't. Every singer sounds the same, and every guitar and bass sounds like its got a mid scoop. A lot of my friends listen to Sunny Day Real Estate, which I guess is considered emo, but I couldn't name a song of theirs or pick them out of a lineup even if you had a gun to my head. And this music is playing all the time around me.
Emo kids are the new metal kids. By that I mean loser kids who try to find solace in other people who are rejected by their peers. (If you think listening to metal makes you a metal kid, you already missed my point) I hope they grow out of it by the time they reach normal society (surprisingly there are very few emo guys in college) but unfortunately, dumb tattoos never fade. Either do ******** lip piercing scars. My theory is that emo kids eventually turn into indie kids, but thats a whole 'nother thread all together.
I had wanted to say something witty and hilarious at the end of this thread, but I just drew a total blank.
On one precious day, May 10th of 1994, the genre known as 'Emo' was born. (This is NOT to be mistaken with the genre 'Emotive Hardcore,' spun by bands like Rites of Spring and Fire Party in Washington D.C. in the 80's). On May 10th, 1994 two albums were released on the same day: Weezer's Self-Titled Blue Album, and Sunny Day Real Estate's 'Diary.' This changed music forever. From here, bands like Fugazi and Texas Is The Reason were able to break through to the underground's idea of mainstream.
From there, 'Emo' went through many changes. Its original occurrence out of Noise Rock (Sonic Youth) and Grunge (Nirvana) roots eventually moved on to a more punk influenced mid-western sound (Cursive, The Get Up Kids). As this became popular, again on an underground level, bands started getting the idea of combining these 'Emo' roots with pop ideals, spurring the first real occurrence of 'Emo' in the real mainstream (Jimmy Eat World).
The next wave turned this idea of Punk-Emo back to the 80's Post-Punk idea of fashion and attitude, while maintaining a completely mainstream act (Simple Plan, Good Charlotte). Meanwhile, the 'Emo' that held true to it's roots broke off to become what is now known as 'Indie Rock.'
Once this new idea of 'Emo' became popular, people started looking back at what 'Emo' originally was, and labels like Sub Pop, Jade Tree, and Saddle Creek starting tossing their acts to the masses, now seeing bands like Bright Eyes and Weezer being head on a nation wide scale, but generally being tagged as 'Indie.'
Recently, things have turned full swing and the break away 'Indie' and the mainstream 'Emo' have been kind of respawning into new acts like Brand New, Say Anything, and Motion City Soundtrack.
The mainstream idea of 'Emo' has again morphed into something different, what is popularly being labeled as 'Scene,' often blending 'Emo' and 'Hardcore,' to produce acts such as Senses Fail and From First To Last. While the underground idea of 'Emo' that eventually became 'Indie' has again morphed and found its own footing in mainstream music with bands like Death Cab For Cutie, Modest Mouse, and The Shins.
Talk all the **** you want about the kids that are slaves to the capitalist competitive dogma, but the history of the music itself is interesting, and I whole heartedly believe that in 15 years we'll be talking about Weezer and how they got to us wherever we are with just as much influence as the Beatles.
From there, 'Emo' went through many changes. Its original occurrence out of Noise Rock (Sonic Youth) and Grunge (Nirvana) roots eventually moved on to a more punk influenced mid-western sound (Cursive, The Get Up Kids). As this became popular, again on an underground level, bands started getting the idea of combining these 'Emo' roots with pop ideals, spurring the first real occurrence of 'Emo' in the real mainstream (Jimmy Eat World).
The next wave turned this idea of Punk-Emo back to the 80's Post-Punk idea of fashion and attitude, while maintaining a completely mainstream act (Simple Plan, Good Charlotte). Meanwhile, the 'Emo' that held true to it's roots broke off to become what is now known as 'Indie Rock.'
Once this new idea of 'Emo' became popular, people started looking back at what 'Emo' originally was, and labels like Sub Pop, Jade Tree, and Saddle Creek starting tossing their acts to the masses, now seeing bands like Bright Eyes and Weezer being head on a nation wide scale, but generally being tagged as 'Indie.'
Recently, things have turned full swing and the break away 'Indie' and the mainstream 'Emo' have been kind of respawning into new acts like Brand New, Say Anything, and Motion City Soundtrack.
The mainstream idea of 'Emo' has again morphed into something different, what is popularly being labeled as 'Scene,' often blending 'Emo' and 'Hardcore,' to produce acts such as Senses Fail and From First To Last. While the underground idea of 'Emo' that eventually became 'Indie' has again morphed and found its own footing in mainstream music with bands like Death Cab For Cutie, Modest Mouse, and The Shins.
Talk all the **** you want about the kids that are slaves to the capitalist competitive dogma, but the history of the music itself is interesting, and I whole heartedly believe that in 15 years we'll be talking about Weezer and how they got to us wherever we are with just as much influence as the Beatles.
Buddy, no band has hit the influence of the Beatles yet, at least to general public.
Your talking about a band that changed the face of music as we see it today.
Zeppelin comes close
so do The Rolling Stones
and Pink Floyd
maybe Black Sabbath
but even those greats who are huge and pioneered the type of music they play, aren't as big as the Beatles
And I'm not a big Beatles fan at all.
I didn't put down the Beatles in any way. And I whole heartedly agree that they changed the face of music forever. Trust me, I've got an even longer rant on that one
Yeah, the Beatles are responsible for music as we know it. This includes Weezer. But if Weezer (not to mention Sunny Day Real Estate and Fugazi. But no one talks about the Kinks or the Zombies and their influence when they could get away with just saying the Beatles) hadn't come around like they did, none of what I wrote about above would have happened. Things would be totally different.
The Beatles abide, but not solely. Their realm of influence will extend indefinitely, but the extra nudges from bands like Weezer along the way certainly didn't hurt. And the 'Emo' revolution that we are now joking about, spawned by bands like Weezer, is just as new and head-turning as plugging in electric guitars and throwing down a Rock and Roll beat in 4/4 was in the 60's.
All things metal would not exist without Black Sabbath. Say what you will, but they are the godfathers of truly heavy metal. And Doom metal (Electric Funeral, to name just one), and Sludge (Children Of the Grave, Cornucopia, St. Vitus' Dance), and Stoner rock(Sweat Leaf, anyone?).
sorry for the random post, but it's late and I'm feeling pretty metal right now.
All things metal would not exist without Black Sabbath. Say what you will, but they are the godfathers of truly heavy metal. And Doom metal (Electric Funeral, to name just one), and Sludge (Children Of the Grave, Cornucopia, St. Vitus' Dance), and Stoner rock(Sweat Leaf, anyone?).
sorry for the random post, but it's late and I'm feeling pretty metal right now.
Yeah, and none of those influences have anything to do with the discussion at hand.
Weezer has a much greater influence in the current scene... at least in high grossing genres.
Which is funny, cause the only album by them I like is the Blue Album...and only a few songs on it, at that.
Tons of people hate the Beatles, but can anyone really say that they didn't have an effect on music as we know it?
For what it's worth, I agree with you, Sabbath probably had the largest effect originally on metal as we know it, but still fairly off topic.
All things metal would not exist without Black Sabbath. Say what you will, but they are the godfathers of truly heavy metal. And Doom metal (Electric Funeral, to name just one), and Sludge (Children Of the Grave, Cornucopia, St. Vitus' Dance), and Stoner rock(Sweat Leaf, anyone?).
sorry for the random post, but it's late and I'm feeling pretty metal right now.
That i agree with but i'm talking even broader, The Beatles influenced sabbath you know?
I'm too old to know any actual emos, but I think the chicks are hot.
With all due respect, the Rolling Stones never contributed anything original to music-- they simply mimic the popular music of the time (very well, though). In the 60s, they sounded like the Beatles, by the late sixties they were sounding like the heavy blues/rock outfits like Hendrix, Cream, etc., in the 70s they actually went disco (ref: Miss You), in the 80s they flirted with punk (miserable) and new wave (dreadful). In the late 80s, I stopped listening to them. I don't hate the Stones, I just lived through 3 decades of them following the fads. And doing it well.
With all due respect, the Rolling Stones never contributed anything original to music-- they simply mimic the popular music of the time (very well, though). In the 60s, they sounded like the Beatles, by the late sixties they were sounding like the heavy blues/rock outfits like Hendrix, Cream, etc., in the 70s they actually went disco (ref: Miss You), in the 80s they flirted with punk (miserable) and new wave (dreadful). In the late 80s, I stopped listening to them. I don't hate the Stones, I just lived through 3 decades of them following the fads. And doing it well.
Well yeah. While we had a rock n' roll explosion over here, the Brits were doing blues, jazz, and what would become R&B. The Beatles were doing some blues stuff, and so was Long John Baldry, who had a no-name kid named MIC JAGGER doing back up vocals, and another kid named ELTON JOHN playing keyboards...
Black Sabbath was called "The Polka Tulk Blues Company".
So you're right, but it wasn't just The Beatles, everyone one was doing it. They just had some serious songwriting ability.
I can respectfully disagree here, I think they were the pioneers of hard rock IMO but to each his own.
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Oh my god! thats was awesome!
specially the part when the kid says "i hate you too, youre not the only one with issues!"
