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The Krappy Bassists Klub

Tupac said:
I thought this was a thread for terrible bassists like me, only to find out it's an actual luthier. Lol, who would name their company this? Is that his last name, or is it ironic humor?

Tupac, you want the MEDIOCRE BASSISTS CLUB. Buy yerself a righteous hat and join that club. Good fun over there!

Apologies for the derail, carry on gents.
 
This is a question based on niavity - but would the paired string be tuned an octave apart? I'm trying to visualize (conceptualize?) how this would work and what it would sound like...

Yes, the way I have seen it done, and how this bass will be, the paired string will be an octave up. There are a number of production basses that do this. I played an 8 string Hamer at Truetone music last month. I sounds a lot like playing through an octave up effect, but with perfect tracking, and authentic analog tone.......

I'm sure a YouTube search for "8 string bass" will bring up more octave paired basses than extended range ones.
 
I thought this was a thread for terrible bassists like me, only to find out it's an actual luthier. Lol, who would name their company this? Is that his last name, or is it ironic humor?

Go to Krappyguitars.com, read his manifesto, and decide for yourself.

As far as I'm concerned, Kevin is doing God's work, right here on Earth.
 
I just saw Kevin's video of the EeAaDd bass. Looking and sounding pretty cool!

Yep, even on his camcorder mic, I'm stoked.

I was going to write him soon to ask why no progress shots since the first two days of the build, and then I get this,



and this

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Can't wait to fondle this.
 
My Krappy arrived at work today, and I have had about an hour of playing time. The short story is, I'm very happy.

For those wanting more details, I offer my initial impressions.
For starters, the build I had conceived of, was something new to me. I had never seen or played anything like what I imagined. Kevin had never built anything exactly like this either, so he was somewhat in new territory as well.

34" fretted, 1 4/5" nut
6 string octave course, tuned EeAaDd
Passive Krappy humbucker, volume only
Body based on the Dragonwing by Alembic.
Body sandwich of Walnut, Cherry, and Mahogany
Neck through of Mahogany, Maple, and Walnut
Kustom Krappy adjustable aluminium bridge.

The basic construction is very good, nice wood, neat cuts, tight, gapless seams, and he nailed the body shape, though somewhat miniaturized. Yes, the body is small. (shipping weight was 6.7 lbs! the bass weighs 4.5 lbs.)

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The electronics sound great, low noise, with a very present, articulated, humbucker tone. When I saw the finished bass for the first time, I was a little apprehensive about the pup being so close to the bridge, but hearing it tonight I consider it the best possible placement. Kevin's humbuckers must be pretty bottom heavy, cause it doesn't lack for low end response. By having it close to the bridge, it helps favor the higher strings to present a nice balance between the octaves. I believe that any closer to the neck and the higher octaves might have gotten lost in the boom.

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The bass was set up nicely, properly intonated, decent action, with nice fretwork, considering how fast Kevin works.

He put a nice veneer on the front of the headstock.

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The neck profile is new to me, a very rectangular D profile. This is one thing I may change, but I will live with it for a while before deciding.

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The finish is the barest of coverage of a hand rubbed oil. I am grateful for this, as I will invariably do a little smoothing and oiling myself, so there is not much there to get in my way.

The only thing I would count as a negative in this build is the nut. It was cut too low for the low E string, so in the open position, it buzzed on the first fret. I put a little cardboard shim in place and that fixed the buzz. Additionally, the A strings are closer to the E than the D, which is a little distracting, especially when I am trying to finger two strings at a time. I will also cut the octaves closer together at the nut, in an effort to make the fingering easier.

Still, with the funky nut, the unfamiliar neck profile, and my inexperience at playing an octave course bass, it plays very easily. I tried both pick and fingerstyle, and quickly found advantages to both. It's got a great tone, the octaves sound pretty cool. I will be able to record some samples in a week or two.

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My Krappy arrived at work today, and I have had about an hour of playing time. The short story is, I'm very happy.

For those wanting more details, I offer my initial impressions.
For starters, the build I had conceived of, was something new to me. I had never seen or played anything like what I imagined. Kevin had never built anything exactly like this either, so he was somewhat in new territory as well.

34" fretted, 1 4/5" nut
6 string octave course, tuned EeAaDd
Passive Krappy humbucker, volume only
Body based on the Dragonwing by Alembic.
Body sandwich of Walnut, Cherry, and Mahogany
Neck through of Mahogany, Maple, and Walnut
Kustom Krappy adjustable aluminium bridge.

The basic construction is very good, nice wood, neat cuts, tight, gapless seams, and he nailed the body shape, though somewhat miniaturized. Yes, the body is small. (shipping weight was 6.7 lbs! the bass weighs 4.5 lbs.)

file-14.jpg


The electronics sound great, low noise, with a very present, articulated, humbucker tone. When I saw the finished bass for the first time, I was a little apprehensive about the pup being so close to the bridge, but hearing it tonight I consider it the best possible placement. Kevin's humbuckers must be pretty bottom heavy, cause it doesn't lack for low end response. By having it close to the bridge, it helps favor the higher strings to present a nice balance between the octaves. I believe that any closer to the neck and the higher octaves might have gotten lost in the boom.

file-3.jpg

file-15.jpg


The bass was set up nicely, properly intonated, decent action, with nice fretwork, considering how fast Kevin works.

He put a nice veneer on the front of the headstock.

file-5.jpg


The neck profile is new to me, a very rectangular D profile. This is one thing I may change, but I will live with it for a while before deciding.

file-11.jpg


The finish is the barest of coverage of a hand rubbed oil. I am grateful for this, as I will invariably do a little smoothing and oiling myself, so there is not much there to get in my way.

The only thing I would count as a negative in this build is the nut. It was cut too low for the low E string, so in the open position, it buzzed on the first fret. I put a little cardboard shim in place and that fixed the buzz. Additionally, the A strings are closer to the E than the D, which is a little distracting, especially when I am trying to finger two strings at a time. I will also cut the octaves closer together at the nut, in an effort to make the fingering easier.

Still, with the funky nut, the unfamiliar neck profile, and my inexperience at playing an octave course bass, it plays very easily. I tried both pick and fingerstyle, and quickly found advantages to both. It's got a great tone, the octaves sound pretty cool. I will be able to record some samples in a week or two.

file-4.jpg

file-8.jpg

file-13.jpg

file-6.jpg
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Wow....wish I got paid sooner!!
 
I can't put this down. It took me a while to adapt to the fingering, but I've begun to grok this little beast. I'm obsessed.

I will be experimenting with variations in the nut. I've got a scrap of purpleheart, so I can try a few different things. This octave course is very foreign to me, and I want to try putting the octaves closer together, and also try different sized strings. Kevin delivered it with extra light gauges. The low E,A, and D are 75, 60, and 45 gauge. They actually feel really cool, a little bit floppy, but very playable. I want to see what it feels/sounds like with an 85 or 90 in the E spot.

I found out the pickup is not Kevin's, but some unbranded humbucker. It's working for me. I can't wait to bring this to a jam.
 
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Updated 8/1/2012