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The Mike Lull Club Part 3

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I played my first gig on the Lull M5V Saturday, took my Sadowsky NYC as a backup just in case the Lull didn't work out..I played the Lull for the entire first set, played the Sadowsky on the first song of the second set for comparison.. picked the Lull back up and played it the rest of the night.
This is a great bass..it has an amazing B string and the Seymour Duncan single coil p/ups rock!
I'm already planning my next Lull build!
 

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Yeah, I'm just looking at my bass needs as the The Electric Woodshed starts back up (Allman Bros / Little Feat sort of stuff), and this passive Michael Tuttle J-4 that I have in stock is just crying out to be played in that band! Of course my Lull is bought and paid for, so just putting in a nice set of pickups sans preamp would be less moolah to me than buying a whole new bass.

I always have a hard time A/B'ing active vs. pasive, just 'cause the relative volume difference always favors the active tone (we naturally think louder sounds better). It wasn't until I recorded that passive Tuttle bass in a Shed-like setting that I really heard something I liked... there's just something to the attack that is talking to me. Maybe it's just the bass... I've been such a lunatic with pickup swaps and preamp swaps the past year or so, I guess there's also just something really appealing about finding something with no batteries required that sounds good. I'm such a mess about my setup right now. :rollno:
 
My P4 arrived last week and it was everything I hoped it would be. I was looking for something that would cut thru a fairly dense mix on a live gig.

Wanting to go classic for a change, it is completely passive with only a P pickup. It has an alder body and rosewood fretboard. The only change I made was to exchange the white pickguard for a black one. The bass weighs in at 7.5 pounds.

I purchased it sight unseen but with a recommendation from Mike who had it at the 2012 NAMM. He just said "I wouldn't be disappointed".

I had it at practice last night and I wan't disappointed! Actually, I didn't realize a passive P bass could sound so good. My bandmates, who for the most part are (bass) gear challenged, usually don't notice different basses I bring to practice. After practice, they all commented how the tone was different, in a better way.

In a way, this makes it harder. Which bass to bring now, the Sadowsky J or the Lull P?


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LeonD said:
My P4 arrived last week and it was everything I hoped it would be. I was looking for something that would cut thru a fairly dense mix on a live gig.

Wanting to go classic for a change, it is completely passive with only a P pickup. It has an alder body and rosewood fretboard. The only change I made was to exchange the white pickguard for a black one. The bass weighs in at 7.5 pounds.

I purchased it sight unseen but with a recommendation from Mike who had it at the 2012 NAMM. He just said "I wouldn't be disappointed".

I had it at practice last night and I wan't disappointed! Actually, I didn't realize a passive P bass could sound so good. My bandmates, who for the most part are (bass) gear challenged, usually don't notice different basses I bring to practice. After practice, they all commented how the tone was different, in a better way.

In a way, this makes it harder. Which bass to bring now, the Sadowsky J or the Lull P?

That is what double gig bags are made for!! ; )
 
I've had my Lull V4 since September, and I'm loving it. Thought I'd let you guys hear two recordings of covers my band did about a month ago. We have a 5-track EP on iTunes (all orignials), but we went back and recorded some covers just to use in a press pack for booking purposes. Here's the two covers on YouTube. Let me know what you guys think...

Adam Doleac Band - My Kinda Party (Jason Aldean Cover) - YouTube

Adam Doleac Band - When The Sun Goes Down (Kenny Chesney Cover) - YouTube

And if you happen to want to check out our EP on iTunes, you can find it here...
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I have had my MV5 for a couple of months now...still love the sound! But, I wanted to check out a Sadowsky, too, so I went to a local shop, who sells both Lull's and Sadowsky's. Both are so close that only someone with better ears than me could tell the difference. The necks on both basses felt great.
Anyway, I didn't trade-in my Lull for a Sadowsky, except for one nagging problem; how the heck do I get the batteries out, if I need to change them? It is real simple on my Stingray's but not so with the Lull.
 
Thanks Greg. I checked everything in line. Ended up using another bass through my set up w/ no problems. Came home and plugged the Lull straight into my practice rig and had the same results. Nada. Thanks again for the response.

Got her back yesterday from my tech. It was a bad blend pot but all is well once again. Played her at worship today and was all smiles. I still agree that the battery compartment is way snug.
 
Hey guys, a question...

I've got a Lul M4V which I love. It has (I think) Lindy Fralin hum cancelling pickups and an Aguilar OBP-3 preamp. This is my first bass with Fralins and an OBP-3. I use DR Hi Beams on it (and all my other basses).

The thing I love most about this bass is the even volume and tone I get from string to string. The G string has as much punch and presence as the E - I'm amazed.

Question is this: does anyone have any ideas why this bass has that consistency? Is it the preamp? The pickups? Any thoughts welcome.
 
My guess would be just the opposite. Preamp and pickups amplify the string vibration. That consistency comes from the vibration itself.

If I had to guess, I'd say, quality of woods (both body and neck), construction methods (neck construction, tight fit of the neck in the body pocket, etc.) and hardware (bridge, nut and tuners).

And I'd agree with your take on consistency. My Lull is very even across all four strings.
 
Absolutely gorgeous, congrats on the new bass!

Thank you. And it sounds even better than it looks. ;)

I've had it on one practice and the first gig with it will be this Saturday. My main gigging bass has been a Sadowsky WL. I've avoided the P bass for a while but I think the P's natural eq will sit in the mix very well (not that there was ever a problem with the WL).
 
My guess would be just the opposite. Preamp and pickups amplify the string vibration. That consistency comes from the vibration itself.

If I had to guess, I'd say, quality of woods (both body and neck), construction methods (neck construction, tight fit of the neck in the body pocket, etc.) and hardware (bridge, nut and tuners).

And I'd agree with your take on consistency. My Lull is very even across all four strings.

Every week our sound guys comment on the "balance" of my M4V. They would know.
 
I'm having a lot of trouble deciding on my next bass, which will absolutely be another Mike Lull. I've got my choices narrowed down to three:
1. A passive V5 with a Precision pickup in the neck position (making it a PJ bass)
2. An active M5V with a Precision pickup in the neck position (making it a PJ bass)
3. The standard active M5V with both Jazz pickups

I'm pretty sure I want an alder body with rosewood fretboard (not 100% sure, but pretty close). And if I get an active bass, I'm pretty sure I'm going to get the Bartolini preamp. I'm sort of leaning towards a PJ bass, but I would want it with a jazz body, not a precision body like Mike's standard PJ basses.

I currently play a Lull passive V4 with ash body and maple neck. So I'd like a 5 string bass to compliment my V4, and not sound exactly the same. What are your thoughts? I'm especially interested in knowing what I can expect in terms of sound from each of those three choices.
 
Killens84 said:
I'm having a lot of trouble deciding on my next bass, which will absolutely be another Mike Lull. I've got my choices narrowed down to three:
1. A passive V5 with a Precision pickup in the neck position (making it a PJ bass)
2. An active M5V with a Precision pickup in the neck position (making it a PJ bass)
3. The standard active M5V with both Jazz pickups

I'm pretty sure I want an alder body with rosewood fretboard (not 100% sure, but pretty close). And if I get an active bass, I'm pretty sure I'm going to get the Bartolini preamp. I'm sort of leaning towards a PJ bass, but I would want it with a jazz body, not a precision body like Mike's standard PJ basses.

I currently play a Lull passive V4 with ash body and maple neck. So I'd like a 5 string bass to compliment my V4, and not sound exactly the same. What are your thoughts? I'm especially interested in knowing what I can expect in terms of sound from each of those three choices.

I think you know what you want from reading your post. Get the pj m5v. I talked with Mike a lot about pre choices and he felt that the best thing for a pj is a passive tone with bass/treble. A p pup has naturally great mids and doesn't need the treatment with a mid control as much as a j which gets that slight phase cancellation with both pups up full (which is an awesome tone). Anyway, having the passive tone gives you a bass that will act (and be when set as such) a passive bass. Why not have the active option for just a little more money? I guess only you can decide that.

I think it's smart you want something to compliment a bass you already love. I like getting it done with the fewest number of basses in the stable. Redundancy feels wasteful. That's just me though!
 
Killens84 said:
I'm having a lot of trouble deciding on my next bass, which will absolutely be another Mike Lull. I've got my choices narrowed down to three:
1. A passive V5 with a Precision pickup in the neck position (making it a PJ bass)
2. An active M5V with a Precision pickup in the neck position (making it a PJ bass)
3. The standard active M5V with both Jazz pickups

I'm pretty sure I want an alder body with rosewood fretboard (not 100% sure, but pretty close). And if I get an active bass, I'm pretty sure I'm going to get the Bartolini preamp. I'm sort of leaning towards a PJ bass, but I would want it with a jazz body, not a precision body like Mike's standard PJ basses.

I currently play a Lull passive V4 with ash body and maple neck. So I'd like a 5 string bass to compliment my V4, and not sound exactly the same. What are your thoughts? I'm especially interested in knowing what I can expect in terms of sound from each of those three choices.

I don't own a Lull bass but this year I'm buying myself a new bass and on my short list is either a Mike Lull bass or a Sadowsky Metro. Like you, I also want a P/J on a full size Alder Jazz body (although I'd like a 5 string with a maple fretboard). Is the only difference between the "V" and the "MV" models the fact that the MV has a Pre amp? Also, what pickups do you intend to get in yours?

Sorry for the newbie questions, it's just that I recently just discovered Mike Lull basses and the GAS is starting to get out of control!
 
pauliebass said:
I think you know what you want from reading your post. Get the pj m5v. I talked with Mike a lot about pre choices and he felt that the best thing for a pj is a passive tone with bass/treble. A p pup has naturally great mids and doesn't need the treatment with a mid control as much as a j which gets that slight phase cancellation with both pups up full (which is an awesome tone). Anyway, having the passive tone gives you a bass that will act (and be when set as such) a passive bass. Why not have the active option for just a little more money? I guess only you can decide that.

I think it's smart you want something to compliment a bass you already love. I like getting it done with the fewest number of basses in the stable. Redundancy feels wasteful. That's just me though!

What pre would you suggest for that? Other than the Bartolini, I was also considering a Nordstrand pre, but leaning towards the Bart. Since I would probably be using the bass in passive mode more than active, do you think it would be better to have the volume/blend/treble/bass control configuration, or the volume/volume/treble/bass configuration?
 
Killens84 said:
What pre would you suggest for that? Other than the Bartolini, I was also considering a Nordstrand pre, but leaning towards the Bart. Since I would probably be using the bass in passive mode more than active, do you think it would be better to have the volume/blend/treble/bass control configuration, or the volume/volume/treble/bass configuration?

I have a Bart in mine, but I'm sure the nordy is great as well. Ask Mike when you're about to order. You want to get a passive tone control on there with a stacked T/B knob, I think. VV or VB is up to you.
 
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