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The Orville

I've read on the interwebs that Patrick Stewart & Scott Bakula are going to make guest appearances.

The show is pretty good, although a bit puerile at moments, like when Norm MacDonald's character was presenting his worthiness for a date to the doctor.

It's ok once/week, not something I could binge watch, similar to Family Guy. I watch Family Guy once in awhile & it cracks me up, but I couldn't stand a bunch of episodes back-to-back.

I do think the show will go the mile, because the sophomoric laughs dig deep with the lowest common denominator types that are all over the FB groups raving about the show.
 
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Seth's funny bone is pretty sophomoric, but it appeals to the wannabe teenager in me. I was just watching Family Guy & couldn't stop laughing.
He seems to have reigned back most of that for Orville, but drops bits & pieces here & there.
That last episode was full of little things that wouldn't make sense if you were taking it seriously.

For instance, that leg that fell out of the ceiling was a ENTIRE leg & the dude's leg was only missing from the knee down.
It might just be my imagination, but I think those Black Matter balls took on some "mysterious shapes".
 
Third episode already getting into SJW preaching.

I'll still give it a chance, but if it continues, I am out.
So you've never watch any "Star Trek" ever, I take it? (I can list the episodes of every series from the Original series through Enterprise. Movies, as well)

That being said, I like it. I honestly like that it's basically "Star Trek" with humor thrown in. With each episode being an hour long, I knew they weren't going to be able to rely on just gags.
MacFarlane is a Star Trek fan, as was mentioned, has guest starred on several. He got Jonathan Frakes to direct the last episode and Brannon Braga as a producer as well (As long as they reign Braga in from his incessant Time Travel crap that he ruined actual Star Trek with, imo).
 
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I never had an interest in TOS but I did watch TNG regularly until I got bored with it in the last 2 seasons.

Recently I've been watching episodes of TOS and I have the perspective of a first time viewer. Im sorry, but Im very unimpressed. Maybe this was fantastic stuff in 1969, but I think it's utter garbage by today's standards.

One thing that stands out to me is how many TNG episodes have stolen plotlines from TOS. There is an episode where Picard falls in love with a woman who is intended to be an arranged bride for the purpose of uniting two warring factions. She then falls for him but of course, his duty is to his ship so he sends her off to wed some guy who doesn't even care about her. The end. It's almost identical to a TOS plot.
 
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I never had an interest in TOS but I did watch TNG regularly until I got bored with it in the last 2 seasons.

Recently I've been watching episodes of TOS and I have the perspective of a first time viewer. Im sorry, but Im very unimpressed. Maybe this was fantastic stuff in 1969, but I think it's utter garbage by today's standards.

One thing that stands out to me is how many TNG episodes have stolen plotlines from TOS.

Remember, this stuff is 60 years old - of course it is going to seem pretty tame by modern standards. It also was done with a limited budget, even for its time. Trek was pretty progressive for its time:

- first inter-racial kiss on TV,
- minority female in a leading role, and other minority characters

The very fact that TOS plotlines were taken for later series should tell you something.

Compare the effects on the original Godzilla to any film today.
 
Remember, this stuff is 60 years old - of course it is going to seem pretty tame by modern standards. It also was done with a limited budget, even for its time. Trek was pretty progressive for its time:

- first inter-racial kiss on TV,
- minority female in a leading role, and other minority characters

The very fact that TOS plotlines were taken for later series should tell you something.

Compare the effects on the original Godzilla to any film today.


I understand all that. TOS was competing with "Lost in Space" and that makes it a Shakespearian masterpiece by comparison. But I've been sold on the idea that the show had some moral or ideological value to it and I just don't see it.

I feel the same about Godzilla. Way overrated. I get the point that it was more meanigful in the context of the cold war mentality of the time, but I think simple nostalgia has more to do with why people like it today. Frankly, the only value I've ever gotten from Godzilla was the MST3K treatment of the movies.
 
I never had an interest in TOS but I did watch TNG regularly until I got bored with it in the last 2 seasons.

Recently I've been watching episodes of TOS and I have the perspective of a first time viewer. Im sorry, but Im very unimpressed. Maybe this was fantastic stuff in 1969, but I think it's utter garbage by today's standards.

One thing that stands out to me is how many TNG episodes have stolen plotlines from TOS. There is an episode where Picard falls in love with a woman who is intended to be an arranged bride for the purpose of uniting two warring factions. She then falls for him but of course, his duty is to his ship so he sends her off to wed some guy who doesn't even care about her. The end. It's almost identical to a TOS plot.
Yes but Picard's response made the episode. He fell in love with her. And I think she did too. She was designed for that purpose but they really fell for each other and both had to live with that for the sake of duty. Kirk was never that deep or interesting.
 
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