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What about the toaster pickups? When were they issued standard, and on which models? And I know that they have a little less output, and are supposedly more clear/bright, but for those of you who did the swap, can you comment on the overall sound before and after switching to the toaster?

Thanks, Tom.
 
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Chronicle said:
They are issued on 4001 models standard.
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So people swap them out for the individual pole pickups? I have seen a lot of 4001's with the 'non-toaster' pickup, and this kinda confused me, because I thought that the toaster was, indeed, one aspect of the 4001. And the FAQ's and whatnot don't mention this, either.
 
#645
The 4003 hi-gain pickups are like you said, much more output. So people swap the toasters with the hi-gains if i they wanted more low end.

Today, 4001's are now just made as 4001C64 and 4001C64S. They include the toaster and horseshoe pickup and some other unique features.
 
#647
Part of the reason that the Hi-Gains are perceived to have more low end, is that the pickups on 4003's are wired to give the full frequency spectrum that they "hear". This translates to most people as a more "aggresive" sound.

The 4001 treble pickups are wired with a capacitor that cuts a lot of low frequencies off. This was done "back in the day" to get a little more hi-end "oomph" out of the "high-freq-challenged" amps and cabs available then.

I bypassed that cap on my C64S, and believe me... no lack of low end there!

And I don't know whether it's a function of its placement, or how it's wound... but the toaster in the neck position on its own has GOBS of lows to give... as well as a very delicate blend of mids and highs.

I love my Ricky!
 
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bigbajo60 said:
Part of the reason that the Hi-Gains are perceived to have more low end, is that the pickups on 4003's are wired to give the full frequency spectrum that they "hear". This translates to most people as a more "aggresive" sound.

The 4001 treble pickups are wired with a capacitor that cuts a lot of low frequencies off. This was done "back in the day" to get a little more hi-end "oomph" out of the "high-freq-challenged" amps and cabs available then.

I bypassed that cap on my C64S, and believe me... no lack of low end there!

And I don't know whether it's a function of its placement, or how it's wound... but the toaster in the neck position on its own has GOBS of lows to give... as well as a very delicate blend of mids and highs.

I love my Ricky!
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I presume this is the same resistor that is incorporated in the 'push/pull' mod (or standard option, if 2007 model)?

Tom.
 
#649
bigbajo60 said:
Part of the reason that the Hi-Gains are perceived to have more low end, is that the pickups on 4003's are wired to give the full frequency spectrum that they "hear". This translates to most people as a more "aggresive" sound.

The 4001 treble pickups are wired with a capacitor that cuts a lot of low frequencies off. This was done "back in the day" to get a little more hi-end "oomph" out of the "high-freq-challenged" amps and cabs available then.

I bypassed that cap on my C64S, and believe me... no lack of low end there!

And I don't know whether it's a function of its placement, or how it's wound... but the toaster in the neck position on its own has GOBS of lows to give... as well as a very delicate blend of mids and highs.

I love my Ricky!
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Yes this is true. One day i shall save up for a C64 :P

And yes to previous post.
 
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tombowlus said:
So, am I hearing that there is little to be gained in swapping out for a toaster in the neck position if I am having the push/pull mod done?

Or is there?

Again, sorry for being such a Rickennoober. :hmm:
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Not neccessarily. The push pull circuit is on the treble pup, while the neck toaster just adds a warm clean bottom to the bass pup. Well worth the swap if ya like a little warm character with the aggressive treble pup. I like my toaster so much on my 4001, I hardly ever use the other pup at all. Combined with flat wound strings, I get an almost upright bass tone. Btw, my 4001 is a '77, not a newer "C" model. I have left my 4003 stock, and that beast growls. Hope that helps your decision.:bassist:
 
#654
dumbdrum said:
Heads up!

two different azureglo 70's 4001s for reasonable prices.

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you basturd! D: Stop fueling the G.A.S!!!!



I believe you get a little more low end in the toasters- I'm not a big fan of my Neck pickup so if i ever get bored with money i might experiment with different neck pickups for my Rick. I always have the Neck pup turned down :P
 
#655
tombowlus said:
Darnitall, and here I was trying to downsize my collection some!!! :help:
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Chronicle said:
you basturd! D: Stop fueling the G.A.S!!!!



I believe you get a little more low end in the toasters- I'm not a big fan of my Neck pickup so if i ever get bored with money i might experiment with different neck pickups for my Rick. I always have the Neck pup turned down :P
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Don't have funds so I thought I'd help some Tbers...looks like it hurts some while helps others :D
 
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