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The Sushi Box FX Secret Society
- Thread starter kranahan
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5.6 Meg input impedance would be fantastic for doubling with Double! @Sushi Box FX would the proposed GS have a tone stack bypass similar to UA?
It was not my intention to put one in as the design is pressed for space internally, though it would add some gain back in that we're losing on the tonestack and could help with the low output level. I'll think about it.
It would also be great if Furthermore would have the same. Even better if it might be switchable from 1 Meg to 5.6 Meg.
Basically a Finally with a 6SL7 and a HPF, yup.
if you do have a tonestack bypass switch in there, make sure it comes before the HPF so that it can still be engaged without tone in the circuit.
useful for upright.
So I’m wanting to get a more alembic pre amp sound an I’ve been on here and have been told the UA would be perfect. I run a Spector euro 5 Lt an it’s been a little hot lately. I think it’s on the bridge pup or something cause it’s coming in hot. But my question is will adding the pedal add more of the humming an make it harder to dial
In to the house PA? And ideas I’ve also wanted to Change pups to splits form bartiloni but I’ve been told those would be nosier then the passive hums in my Spector now. So I’m told. Thoughts?
also will the tone I get on stage just be heard on stage? I use the DI from my
Genzler magellan 800 head. So if I had a preamp pedal it will no doubt make my tone on stage sound diff but how do you get that tone to FOH?
In to the house PA? And ideas I’ve also wanted to Change pups to splits form bartiloni but I’ve been told those would be nosier then the passive hums in my Spector now. So I’m told. Thoughts?
also will the tone I get on stage just be heard on stage? I use the DI from my
Genzler magellan 800 head. So if I had a preamp pedal it will no doubt make my tone on stage sound diff but how do you get that tone to FOH?
I’ve been here before. But I’ve actually never had the trouble with the feedback. I’ve fixed it to where a good sound man dialed it out. I may have to pay for more shielding but he was mentioning to his partner I was coming in at 10k maybe? I prob misheard it but call me paranoid I just don’t like risking that feedback.
an then again I was just thinking if it’s just a preamp. I won’t get that tone I hear on stage to the FOH. Correct? Not going through my heads DI anyway. Sorry still learning an i really try to research to the max before making a choice like this.
If I’m being honest my band is just getting better an more booked to where we are playing shows where my bass is needing to go through my heads DI. Usually with my Magellan 800 and then 2x10+ 115 cabs I have more then enough volume. But going through more top end PAs an having monitors all that like we have been, it’s been a learning curve I admit.
an then again I was just thinking if it’s just a preamp. I won’t get that tone I hear on stage to the FOH. Correct? Not going through my heads DI anyway. Sorry still learning an i really try to research to the max before making a choice like this.
If I’m being honest my band is just getting better an more booked to where we are playing shows where my bass is needing to go through my heads DI. Usually with my Magellan 800 and then 2x10+ 115 cabs I have more then enough volume. But going through more top end PAs an having monitors all that like we have been, it’s been a learning curve I admit.
What ever you run into that amp is going to come out of the DI. I am assuming your bass has a preamp in it. You will be adding another one on the board that has pretty high gain. You might run into some feedback. Double check the pickups and your power supply to make sure that is not it. You may just need to dial in your preamp on your bass flat and make sure it is not boosted. That may help, but that is all a guess without seeing and hearing it.
Yep you are on it. So I have the darkglass preamp that Spector an darkglass made for the euro model. I’m not a huge fan of it. Tbh it’s giving me more of the Korn or primus sound. It’s not the actual darkglass is a proprietary one but it’s based off their preamp. I turn the mid slider in the Cavity almost all the way down cause the mids make it blah to me. We looked at the wiring we there was some minor loose end which got most the extreme buzzing to go. The sound man that really knew what he was doing dialed me in no problem.
But he did mentioned my signal was hot or feeding back when I when more to the treble or front pickup of the bass. None the less a little dialing and it’s okay. I know it’s going to add some noise for sure. I guess l am wondering will the pedal, tighten up an allow me more clean tube feel a focused treble to cut. While giving the slight breakup a sound of tubed growl. The Alembic pre sounds so nice. I like what the Elricks sound like as well. It’s just a more clean focused sound with a slight growl.
Idk why but one of my trusted bass techs mentioned that adding all this will really only be heard on my cabs not really in the FOH as much as I think going through the DI an that going to the PA? I maybe missed a point he was tryin to make but it didn’t make sense cause like for example my fx pedals “envelope filter”‘works when I play it on an off going through DI? Not sure what was meant there
The amp di has a pre/post but that is either pre amp EQ or post amp EQ. What goes in the front of the amp goes out di. He may be confused. Now, if you run the board into the effects return rather than the amp input, that could change things, but I’m not sure. If you have a Darkglass pre in the bass, I don’t know how that will play with pedals as those have a baked in sound even when set flat. Can you bypass it and run the guitar in passive?
I was wondering about that! I was thinking either pup swap or taking out the darkglass especially if adding the sushi UA but i was advised strongly against it. With the pups I have. The aren’t the highest output from what I’m told. One of the bass players tones i really really dig right now is gooses bass player named Trevor weeks. He uses an elrick with Barts I think I read active pickups no onboard pre an but an rack alembic pre an then an Avalon DI for FoH.
So I’m trying to get similar results with what I have. I will say when turning the slider in the cavity all the way down, it seems to not only back off the mids but the
Preamp itself. An what’s weirder is this maybe normal, but the mid slider is like a 3 prong clip that can be taken off even. So I’m not sure if that just takes the whole preamp out of mix or just the mix and most the preamp. Very weird. So maybe the pedal an the pre on my bass would be okay, but I’m hesitant cause I have it backed off already an still get a hot signals. I’m not against pickups change an loved the sound of the bart splits that could fit in the slots of the humbuckers of Spector but I was told those are naturally louder pups which makes sense in my head. But maybe they’d sound okay with no darkglass pre an the sushi’underground.
A lot of avenues. I shot the idea of the sushi pedal with taking the darkglass out an was told by itself the bass would have no real power like it does now. Tough calls and I don’t live in a area where it’s easy to demo this kind of changes I want to make pre hand. So gota just research like most an do the best there is one video or someone using a sushi UA I think with a Spector like mine but dif pre amp but it sounded great. I’m hoping if I buy sushi it won’t be just to much an unusable with Spector all tho I’m sure someone out there is running this combo just fine.
You should get the UA and give it a shot. If you got the onboard pre dialed back, I bet it will be good. The UA does play well with some other preamps in my experience. I run mine into the front of amps, another preamp, and always have great results. My current amp has a tube preamp section and the UA sounds wicked running into that.
@PhishPhan22
please, you really need your own thread.
personally, i’m here for updates from @Sushi Box FX not reading about your meanderings on your personal setup.
please start a new thread about your setup and please don’t continue to hijack this one.
thanks
please, you really need your own thread.
personally, i’m here for updates from @Sushi Box FX not reading about your meanderings on your personal setup.
please start a new thread about your setup and please don’t continue to hijack this one.
thanks
