Since the Cioks gives more current at 9v, that’s probably preferable.
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The Sushi Box FX Secret Society
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I would purely for the reason of: if you mindlessly want to try a different pedal, you don't accidentally feed it 12v.
There's nothing to gain using 12V, but you're getting less current, and a slightly more complex setup.
Welcome to the SushiBox World Steve, although I pretty much only play Thunderbird PUP basses, I bet a Roscoe is to die for through any SushiBox.
Added the slampegg today and I am very impressed. It nails a fat vintage clean tone. But where I’m most impressed is with something in front of it to push the input. It goes to a tube driven sound that’s a little darker than the classic svt tone and very touch responsive.
I’m very confused by the LO and HI switches. The LO switch in the down position gives a low mid boost and takes it to a more 70’s ampeg tone to my ears. Does this mean the up position is “on” and is a mid cut to sound more vintage? The HI switch doesn’t register anything to my ears in either position but that could be my EQ. Never used the high switch on an ampeg anyway.
I’m very confused by the LO and HI switches. The LO switch in the down position gives a low mid boost and takes it to a more 70’s ampeg tone to my ears. Does this mean the up position is “on” and is a mid cut to sound more vintage? The HI switch doesn’t register anything to my ears in either position but that could be my EQ. Never used the high switch on an ampeg anyway.
On the Slampegg Bee mini tube to my ear the deep and brite switches are not extreme but do offer slightly different mid response and knee points.
Roscoe through anything sounds awesome.
I put the Finally at the end of my Nano+ for a couple reasons. First, to “warm up” my HX Stomp. Also, the Stomp doesn’t have a ground lift. It hasn’t been an issue, but just being proactive. I have a Radial Pro DI I could use, but for $230, I thought why not get a tube back in my chain. The pink glow looks cool as well. Attachments
I’m going to keep playing around with them. Thanks for the reassurance. Overall very happy though. I was torn between this and the Underground.
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My new Underground Accelerator (UA) is a perfect addition to my Fender Rumble 100 and DAW. I am running a Fender P with flats into a board with HPF, OD and Compressor.
I had a Slampegg previously but found that, while it did do the Ampeg thing, it wasn't for me.
I want to thank @bassbrad and the following You Tube contributors for what they offered:
I had a UA before but did not realize how important it was to understand the EQ settings. I do now and the UA is a great provider of a tube tone.
I had a Slampegg previously but found that, while it did do the Ampeg thing, it wasn't for me.
I want to thank @bassbrad and the following You Tube contributors for what they offered:
I had a UA before but did not realize how important it was to understand the EQ settings. I do now and the UA is a great provider of a tube tone.
Thanks for posting that, I hadn't seen that first video, or the first in that series before.
My SB looks different than yours (all the knobs are on the left side), but I'm assuming it operates the same as yours. I also figure that the LO/HI switches are 'off' when down and 'on' when up.
Anyway, on 'my' Slampegg (bought earlier this year):
With the LO switch engaged (up), the tone gets very dark and bassey and also loses some volume (not a complaint, just an observation). This is probably the same mid cut that you described when engaging the LO switch. I don't usually engage the LO switch.
I have found that the HI switch gives more of a treble boost the lower the Gain is set, and has progressively less effect at higher Gain settings, This seems to work just like the treble boost switch on my Alembic F-2B, which gives more treble boost at lower volume settings and has no effect at all when the volume is at maximum.
Just as a test, you may try the HI switch at different Gain settings, just to see if it operates the way I've described that mine does (low Gain = more treble boost, high Gain = less treble boost). But even though you prefer a higher Gain setting on the Slampegg (where the HI switch doesn't seem to do as much), you can still get plenty enough treble by simply turning up the Treble knob.
So how clean is the Elementary? All descriptions are that it's the cleaner version of Dr. Watson.
I rolled an NOS 12at7 into my HW Slampegg to get a bit more headroom on the gain side (for upright bass,) and I'm wondering if I can expect same with an Elementary?
Also as stock pedals, are the output levels generally equivalent between the Elementary and SlamPegg?
J
I rolled an NOS 12at7 into my HW Slampegg to get a bit more headroom on the gain side (for upright bass,) and I'm wondering if I can expect same with an Elementary?
Also as stock pedals, are the output levels generally equivalent between the Elementary and SlamPegg?
J
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Elementary is cleaner than Dr. Wattson, but it can get dirty when the gain is cranked. Rolling a 12AT7 into it would certainly clean it up more.
Elementary has a higher output level than Slampegg.
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12AU7 would pretty well guarantee it stays clean all the time no matter what.
I’ve been changing up my two pb’s quite often of late—taking my MORE(s) on/off as real estate/tone dictate. Besides the MORE’s tube effect, I’m finding what a huge advantage having a MORE in my chain provides—loads of clean gain at my disposal. It really allows for optimizing other pedal’s sweet spot, both headroom and tone quality…my Studio One honestly never sounded so good (PC-2A>MORE>S1)…
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At this point, I think I like UA and Elementary equally, which is a high compliment to lay on the later.
They cover a lot of the same ground, but with different voices/personalities.
I run both right on the edge, so clean by-and-large, but break-up with a tasty bite when you dig in.
Regarding the Elementary, I have the stock 12ax7 installed and it has plenty of clean range available.
They cover a lot of the same ground, but with different voices/personalities.
I run both right on the edge, so clean by-and-large, but break-up with a tasty bite when you dig in.
Regarding the Elementary, I have the stock 12ax7 installed and it has plenty of clean range available.
Question?
In general, what’s the difference between running a higher voltage tube at a lower gain setting versus a lower voltage tube at a higher gain setting? Is it just a more gradual slope?
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I’m specifically asking regarding the input gain stage for Sushi Box pedals.
J
In general, what’s the difference between running a higher voltage tube at a lower gain setting versus a lower voltage tube at a higher gain setting? Is it just a more gradual slope?
*edit*
I’m specifically asking regarding the input gain stage for Sushi Box pedals.
J
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