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the Traynor YBA-200 thread

#121
Tom
Thanks for answering. The advice is appreciated. Unfortunately the guy who sells Berg and Sadowsky around here is also the guy who sold me the EA, and I was kind of upset with him. Tell me if I was off base here if you would. I was sold the CxL-112 as being adequate for club shows, it wasn't, and since I was invested in EA and I did like the sound I bought a second to get the volume I was after. Minutes after getting it home and hooked up the speaker blew. Admittedly this was not my normal amp (a truly cursed SWR 350x that was AWOL at the time) Instead, I had hooked up a vintage 20w Traynor Bassmate that I was running at about 8. I know about underpowered amps and clipping, and there is no way I can see that 20w of power, even if clipped in a pure square wave (which this certainly wasn't) can blow a 350w cab as it would have no more than 40w energy max to overheat the driver with, which is simply not enough power to do the damage. To make a long story shorter, the vendor would not take the cabinet back but he did repair it free of charge. I had thought he just did a bad repair, but you've now given me reason to think it is the YBA's tube power section (I got the YBA soon after the second cab). I still think he should have taken the thing back and sent it back to EA for a refurb so that I could find something more appropriate to my needs. Since he didn't have anything meeting this description, he knew my money was out the door, so he kept it and repaired the cab instead. Should he have given me my money back? Or am I in the wrong in feeling aggrieved? He runs a very small operation and every sale counts for this guy, so I kind of understand, but I don't think it justifies his not returning my cash. If I have to apologize to him at least I can have a go at the Bergie 6x10 and Sadowsky 4x10 and compare them to the Traynor YBX1510 and XC808 (which intrigues me despite the icky Yorkville-standard finish). The Sadowsky is only about a couple hundred more ($1100) than the 1510 ($850) and 808 ($880). The Bergie is $1400. These are all Canadian dollars. Which would be your pick for a rocker type with an Live at Leeds fetish? One of the boutique cabs or one or two of the Traynor cabs (a pair of 1510's or one of each)? Anything strike you as an especially great deal on any of these prices?
 
#125
burgess said:
Thanks again Tom. Unfortunately the Sadowsky is actually $1049 CDN + 14% tax which works out to about $1200, which at today's exchange rate is around $1025 US. Still a deal? The Bergie 6x10 goes for about $1400 or $1600 including tax which is about $1325 US. Worth the extra $300? Is it substantially louder or better sounding?
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Well, the NV610 has a more visceral punch, is a bit more warm, and offers up a bit more 'texture.' The SA410 can cop a fairly similar tone with the tweeter turned down, but the 10's in the NV610 do go higher, so the upper midrange probably varies the most. Plus, the SA410 is ported, and it kind of projects its sound out away from the cab a bit more. The sealed NV610 tends to offer more 'tangible feel' up close, and is more omni-directional. The SA410 can, of course, cop a more modern tone with its tweeter dialed in. They are actually fairly close in overall volume.

Tom.
 
#129
burgess said:
If I have to apologize to him at least I can have a go at the Bergie 6x10 and Sadowsky 4x10 and compare them to the Traynor YBX1510 and XC808 (which intrigues me despite the icky Yorkville-standard finish). The Sadowsky is only about a couple hundred more ($1100) than the 1510 ($850) and 808 ($880). The Bergie is $1400. These are all Canadian dollars. Which would be your pick for a rocker type with an Live at Leeds fetish? One of the boutique cabs or one or two of the Traynor cabs (a pair of 1510's or one of each)? Anything strike you as an especially great deal on any of these prices?
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I personally like the 1510 quite a bit with the YBA200 and you won't have to spend $850 for one either, they're only $550-580 depending on the dealer. It has a clear and open top end. The XC808 has a bit more visceral punch and the 1510 is warmer with a more "billowy" low end. I agree with you on the Yorkville finishes. That spray-on coating on the XC-series with the bright stamped grille looks like some kind of high-end toolbox. To each his own. Traynor looks good though.

I test-drove a Mesa 2x12 the other night which was $870 @ L&M and I would have chosen the Traynor cab over that one as it is less coloured and more hi-fi (more versatile) than the Mesa.
 
#132
so i know there's been a lot of discussion on this amp and how loud it is. i run mine through a goliath sr and it's plenty loud. i play with an aggressive drummer, a lead guitar that's running through a top hat king royale, and a rhythm guitar/vocalist that's running two hot rod devilles. my gain and master are both around 7 and i have room to turn down and still hear myself. two preamp tubes are 12at7's which is how i get the gain so high. killer tone through this rig too. best amp decision i've ever made
 
#133
I have both the YBA200 and the YBX1510 for about 3 months now and here's my thoughts:

Volume is very loud - I keep the pre around 6 and the master around 6 and that's great for practice and stage volume. If I turn the master up any more it's ridiculous loud and I'm literally shaking the walls of the house where we jam (seriously, you can hear the heating vents and everything shaking).
Tone is good. Maybe not quite at the level of an SVT, but it's really good considering the price point of this amp. The EQ is very sensitive and the fact that it is a passive EQ takes some getting used to. Small changes make a big difference in the sound. Something I don't care for is how easily the knobs turn - could use some more resistance in them because when I move or even touch the head, I've accidentally changed the settings. It took a while for me to really dial in "my" sound on it. The tone is very warm and if you are looking for that snappy punk hi-end then just keep looking. However, the definition is great and the lows are very low. The construction is very sturdy on both the cab and head and I have no doubt both can take a beating. The only thing I noticed is that the tolex is quite thin and I got a nick in the cab the first time I moved it. I added casters to the bottom of the cab and that makes moving it WAAAY easier. The head isn't heavy but the cab is.

Overall, I'm happy with the purchase. I will be keeping this amp and cab probably for the rest of my life!
 
#137
This amp is definitely where the tones at! I bought mine about a month ago and have spent a lot of time gigging at low volumes for musical theater and loud volumes with my rock band. Obviously I wanted clean tone for the musical, and with the help of the house setup the tone was full of presence and round- color me happy with the DI. Of course the amp really shines in a loud setting- with the master at 6.5 and the gain at 7 I get a really nice, compressed, overdrive. Very grindy and helps fill out my trio excellently. Overall, the best amp in the price range hands down.

Still doesnt beat the Mesa, though I like the tone more than an SVT (Im not an Ampeg fan.) But for the 600 I payed... it doesnt get any better!
 
#140
Looks like I've got a minty YBA200 coming my way (for a fantastic price...patience definitely paid off!) in the next week or so. I've got plenty of very nice preamp tubes to work with, so I'll retube it as soon as it gets here.

Not to go over old ground, but I'd love to hear how people are running their EQ's again on this amp to keep the midrange present and the overall gain structure as pleasing as possible in a live, rock and roll venue.

I'm pretty stoked!:cool:

Jay
 

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