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Thunderbird Club

Still out of my league, even if I wanted a Flying V.

A Greco 'Bird popped up for less than $1K locally on Craigslist. It is one neighborhood to the north of me, and I almost called the seller. It looks like it could be a decent one, although I prefer chrome hardware to black.

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There's over 300 T-birds of various brands/years on eBay today, (most over $1k) - more than I've ever seen listed there. Used to only be a dozen or so...
 
I thought you'd like that - colour is pretty close to yours. Curious that the bridge/tail-piece are snugged up to each other. Possibly the bridge was relocated lower prior to the re-fin for proper intonation.
yeah, noticed that as well…def not stock spacing…..’
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I thought you'd like that - colour is pretty close to yours. Curious that the bridge/tail-piece are snugged up to each other. Possibly the bridge was relocated lower prior to the re-fin for proper intonation.
Good eye. That should have been fixed before refinishing, along with the weird routing around the control cavity.
It's pretty janky for the money.
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The block versions I've used do seem to have a boost, but didn't quite nail the soup-y sound I was going for. A bit more quack-y in the mids. The script, at least mine, had a bit of a volume drop, probably due to a bit off low end loss, but the mods fixed that and gave it a boost when on. Trying to remember if I added the "R28" feedback resistor or not. Increased the input cap (maybe output cap as well) from 47nF to 100nF, think it sits somewhere between a Script and Block now.

It's the phaser I used here:




If I ever need to replace mine, I'll grab a Whirlwind.

My brother in law Michael Laiacona was a one of the owners of MXR and went on to found Whirlwind. I have both the original MXR and Whirlwind pedal. Michael very generously gave me a complete set of the Whirlwind pedals.
 
Good eye. That should have been fixed before refinishing, along with the weird routing around the control cavity.
It's pretty janky for the money.
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So they hack it, don't correct their hack - repaint it and attempt to sell it for a ridiculous price. No-one in their right mind would pay what they are asking for that. If you look close at the hs pic - it doesn't look like a "top notch" paint-job to me. Chucky's NR has a top-notch finish.

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How important are Gibson pickups in the Thunderbird tone? I love my Thunderbirds tone, which are hand wound in modern humbuckers. Yet I wonder how much of the Thunderbird tone is the pickups (which I’m missing out on) and how much is everything else (which I have).
 
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How important are Gibson pickups in the Thunderbird tone? I love my Thunderbirds tone, which are hand wound in modern humbuckers. Yet I wonder how much of the Thunderbird tone is the pickups (which I’m missing out on) and how much is everything else (which I have).
It depends. Modern Gibson pickups sound a bit different from original '60s pickups which are different again from '70s Gibson sidewinders. There's also pickup placement that has a hand in it. I don't remember what Thunderbird you have. You let us know, and now I have completely forgotten.
 
How important are Gibson pickups in the Thunderbird tone? I love my Thunderbirds tone, which are hand wound in modern humbuckers. Yet I wonder how much of the Thunderbird tone is the pickups (which I’m missing out on) and how much is everything else (which I have).

You have to experience the originals from the 60’s.
Next best, a Sidewinder from a Bi-centennial.
But then you have Lulls which are practically unobtainable.
 
classic example of seat of the pants engineering……

“we got a noise problem!”…
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“it’s coming from the input!”…
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“quick! we need a grounding shield!”
“start ECO (engineering change order) NO. xxxxx and write up the rework instructions”…
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PROBLEM FIXED! :):):)
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Kudos! bonus in your next check….:hyper:

Sheepishly, oh gawd, is that my amp. :woot: