Thunderbird Club

[JJR58]

I was going to be a teacher. I went to UCI. I have a History degree. I went to the proper department as I was planning my junior year courses. The counselor there told me that since I didn’t speak Spanish, I would never find a job in California. This was ‘78. Turned out that she was an idiot. I would have been a great teacher. Instead, I became a lawyer. Made a lot more money, but I’ve never felt that what I did was meaningful.

And exactly why i can’t wait to leave my job.
With many other reasons as well.

 

[Rickplaysbass]

Same here. Teachers are leaving the profession at a great rate, including those in their first years.
My wife is now working as a lawyer, and my daughter is now a school councillor. Both did additional study (of course) in order to start new careers but a guy I met recently left to take up a franchise in something completely different.

I did 5 years before I realized I was taking a pay cut every year after inflation. And there's no way to better your position without moving into administration.

 

[MCF]

I did 5 years before I realized I was taking a pay cut every year after inflation. And there's no way to better your position without moving into administration.

Yeah. And that is rewarding.


Not.

 

[Miles_ONeal]

the Dean of Engineering at SJSU told Thomas he would only use about 9% of what he learned in his EE undergrad program….

Part of that is due to specialization later. Certainly not all, but a big part.

 

[Rickplaysbass]

Yeah. And that is rewarding.


Not.

Honestly, if it was just teaching the kids, I probably would still be doing it. But there's so much nonsense involved in it that has absolutely nothing to do with effective teaching.

 

[Stealth57]

Our resident Aussie says hello.

 

[Miles_ONeal]

I started learning to play drums in my mid-50s. I'm not great at it, but it sure is fun.

Yup. Percussion in my early 50s. Bass in my late 50s.

 

[RedVee]

So ugly it's cool!

That’s what I’m going for

I get it, but when I retire, I'm not going to go work in a restaurant.


Possibly become a Docent at the Museum of Flight, yes.

I’ll be a docent somewhere. Most likely Fort Tejon and the Ridge Route Museum. My Mom was a docent for a number of years at the La Purisima Mission.

Ok, I had to look that up. But yes, I could imagine doing that.
I’m going to take a look at the winery nearest home, I could work in their Cellar Door…

Honestly, if it was just teaching the kids, I probably would still be doing it. But there's so much nonsense involved in it that has absolutely nothing to do with effective teaching.

My wife had a huge amount of admin work to do outside of the actual teaching. She was working after dinner every night and most of each weekend for years. Plus hard to get any support when disciplinary action was needed.

It isn’t sustainable.

 

[ectoflanger]

The only other film I’ve seen of his was The Bride Wore Black starring Jean Moreau who was also in Besson’s Le Femme Nikita.

Speaking of French New Eave, have you seen Goddard’s Alphaville?

 

[ectoflanger]

Pray tell what the misinterpretation was? We wait with bated breath-

 

[ectoflanger]

I done seen it too!

Yes, but “pasr” got “past’ me. One of the hazards of typing on the phone half drunk with serious data lag (from recent storms in my area)

 

[Engle]

Hmmm are you opening your services?

Depends on what t

I've been working with Lava for close to 2 months now without even being shown any samples yet.
I get the whole custom thing and the time it takes.
But geeze. i just might throw in the towel on it.
We'll see how long my patience lasts.

What are you doing?

 

[Engle]

I don't recall having that issue with Mark at Spitfire. He has a comprehensive website that has pics of all options. I just picked an option and put in my order - pretty straight forward.

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I like the bridge cover on a J but the pu cover blocks the sweet spot for me

 

[ectoflanger]

As with many occupations in the public sector-

 

[dagrev]

For me, it isn’t so much how they might lean politically. It’s because most of the time they believe they are the smartest person in the room. And they’re not. Not even close.

It may not be true now, but when I took the GRE after college, I was reading the over the the booklet to see what the deal was and there was a listing of professions school and where they ranked. Engineers were the very top of the testing, then bass players, and the very last was teachers. Not near the bottom, but the bottom. And there were likely 25 or more professions listed. Of course it depends on what grade is being taught. I always thought is unnecessary for even a short teaching masters degree to be required for teaching elementary children. That ought to be something that could be addressed with the major since we're talking pretty basic stuff.

(OK, the bass player part was not actually true. But it could be.)

 

[ectoflanger]

I thought Roy Orbison did that movie.... Who knew.

Oddly enough and kind of related to Bradbury, I was at a great nephew's BD party. Likely half of everyone there were HS teachers. I was sitting is a group with one recently retired teacher and a younger nephew (lit teacher) and a few other people. The retired Spanish teacher was talking about some kind of class she took on Orwell's "1984," and how fascinating it was. My nephew has used the book before and they were discussing it. I was dumbfounded at their application of it. They seemed to understand the message, but went in an obvious wrong direction full of a lack of self awareness given what they were saying (essentially that it applied to other people, but nothing they believed). On the way home I mentioned it to my wife (who was also in that group), and a fundamental factual error the retired teacher talked about and then wrongly applied it. She said I should have said something. I told her I was actually taken aback by the educated misunderstanding I heard and was at a loss for words--and it was a kids party not at out house. And they teach kids stuff! There is some really fascinating research on people seeing something and completely going in a wrong direction (things like my side or confirmation bias, etc.).

Pray tell what the misinterpretation was- we wait with bated breath!

 

[dagrev]

Oh yeah RedVee that is indeed a white Firebird Mick Ralphs is playing! Not sure what Overend is playing?
Anyone here know what Bass that is?
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Apparently it requires some tongue technique. May explain my poor playing.

 

[dagrev]

Glen Campbell playing a Fender VI. This is one of his best tunes IMO even though he didn't write it.

I think so many people have no idea how great that song really is. Checks many boxes for being great. People just think of it as another pop song of that era, but it is so much more.

 

[dagrev]

If I do it, it’ll be a food truck thing. I’m not sure you can sell beer here out of one. I need to research that. But yeah. We could partner up. Two retired guys cruising the California Central Coast and Central Valley from San Rafael to Santa Barbara and Tracy to Bakersfield with their food truck and Thunderbirds.

But you can't be drinking the beer along the way.

 

[dagrev]

I was going to be a teacher. I went to UCI. I have a History degree. I went to the proper department as I was planning my junior year courses. The counselor there told me that since I didn’t speak Spanish, I would never find a job in California. This was ‘78. Turned out that she was an idiot. I would have been a great teacher. Instead, I became a lawyer. Made a lot more money, but I’ve never felt that what I did was meaningful.

It most certainly was. Legal matters are important and it's important they are handled with wisdom and skill. That stuff matters.

That's actually what I thought I would do my first year in college. Didn't want to go to school that long and went to work and did band things. Later went back to school and went as long or longer in some cases.....