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Thunderbird Club

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There's a reason I have two numbers in the crappy bass players with expensive gear club! Sounds like we have a few others who could raise the 'Bird representation there. I'm all for it.
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Is there a club for me? Crappy player with cheap gear? :)

I suspect that there is little genetics in musical (and some other, but not all) talents. Music is greatly influenced by nurture; if you are exposed early in life and have influences (family and friends of family) that take music seriously and impart that knowledge, it can stimulate the interest and result in sufficient drive to practice enough to develop some skills. As well, music is like a language, and early exposure creates a facility that will not be seen in others that do not share that exposure. That is a brain development issue much more than a genetic issue.

Conversely, there are people that are not well positioned to do things - essentially an antitalent - this includes languages, mathematics, and music. For those people, learning these things will be a struggle. With determination and time, they can develop a facility, but it will never be as easy. These are people that are tone deaf and non-numerate. This could also be a result of nurture, but that is less clear.

Sorry, you hit a hot button for me. I work in science and so am very precise in the way I use words like genetic, clone, etc. because those words have very specific meanings. I recognize that in colloquial conversation those words are used differently but that doesn't make it right :).

My Dad used to say we descend from a family with cloth ears....

I struggle with learning or understanding spoken foreign language even if I get a basic level of written knowledge.

I'm no natural at music either.
 
Some pages back, a few club members had asked about the dirty channel on the Orange OB1-500 and a Thunderbird. I was at our rehearsal space last night and before the other guys arrived, I quickly recorded some sounds. This is the Lollar pickup equipped Thunderbird, through the Orange, a Tecamp 2x12 and an Earcandy 1x2. I play with a pick and basically noodle around for a couple of minutes and switch between the clean and dirty channels. The EQ is a little more treble-y than normal, as I had let someone use the amp at our last gig and had not changed it since. The recording is on a Tascam DR-05 from about 6 feet away.

Dropbox - DR0000_0025.mp3

If I recall the distortion almost all the way up and the gain is about a third of the way up.

Thanks for your effort.
I guess Orange's biggest feature is the gain and fuzz, but i like their clean channel sound :D
 
You guys don't mess around!

Wolf - you need to get your guitarist drunk and take him to a tattoo shop, he's lacking a bit in the ink category vs the rest of the band. ;)
the legit theatre of pain guitar makes up for it.

I've always wanted to hear the Berg 610, gets a lot of raves.
the bass player for my singers other band has one, it is pretty impressive. Has an svt cl on top usually. I got to play through it at moderate volume, no drums, when we had a practice at their lockout. And shortly after that my now defunct band played a show with them and he used that rig so I got to hear it with no support in a decent sized room. I agree it blows an ampeg fridge out of the water.

Man, we were in Hollywood last year, we were all saposed to get tats @ sunset strip tattoo. I ended up getting 3, wife and daughter got one no one else! Lames!!!. Headlined the whisky with bandages on lol.
let me know next time you get out here, maybe work out a direct support thing ;). We won't pay to play, but will play as cheap as $400 ;) pretend like it is 98 when a band like soad would kill to open for the crue. On Thursday we support blink 182 (tribute of course). The Ramones were going to open but they canceled last minute.
 
Yeah, the covers are only on for the picture. I'd never be able to play one with 'em on, both, because I play with a pick and tend to use quite long straps. That all said, I'll let you know if one wants to trickle down somewhere!
From the looks of things, by the time that happens, I might actually be able to afford one (meaning it does not look like you plan to sell, and now you have 5/7ths of them.

I am all too familiar with the collection mentality, I'm guilty myself, though no longer active, however I did have a recent spate with Peaveys, a much lower price point, and even that much got me in trouble. Probably the most expensive thing I used to collect obsessively was high end telescope eyepieces, vintage Japanese ones in particular. I never got into the Zeiss category though. Telescopes are like basses. And Pokemon, gotta catch em all.
 
I suspect that there is little genetics in musical (and some other, but not all) talents. Music is greatly influenced by nurture; if you are exposed early in life and have influences (family and friends of family) that take music seriously and impart that knowledge, it can stimulate the interest and result in sufficient drive to practice enough to develop some skills. As well, music is like a language, and early exposure creates a facility that will not be seen in others that do not share that exposure. That is a brain development issue much more than a genetic issue.

Conversely, there are people that are not well positioned to do things - essentially an antitalent - this includes languages, mathematics, and music. For those people, learning these things will be a struggle. With determination and time, they can develop a facility, but it will never be as easy. These are people that are tone deaf and non-numerate. This could also be a result of nurture, but that is less clear.

Sorry, you hit a hot button for me. I work in science and so am very precise in the way I use words like genetic, clone, etc. because those words have very specific meanings. I recognize that in colloquial conversation those words are used differently but that doesn't make it right :).

Totally understood.
 
I can't really find information about it.
What is the metal thing between the bridge and the pickup of the 1965's Thunderbirds?
Looks interesting and a replica would hide well the hole of the 3 point bridge.
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Thanks for your effort.
I guess Orange's biggest feature is the gain and fuzz, but i like their clean channel sound :D

I do too! I think of the built in fuzz/dirty sound as me having a foot switchable option, if needed.

Not having to use stomp boxes which I found killed my low end, dragging a second amp around to handle the dirty sound when used intermittently, extra cords that seem go bad at the worst possible time, batteries/power supplies, pedal boards were all things I was happy to give up.
 
Is there a club for me? Crappy player with cheap gear? :)



My Dad used to say we descend from a family with cloth ears....

I struggle with learning or understanding spoken foreign language even if I get a basic level of written knowledge.

I'm no natural at music either.
It's all about the ratio of talent to gear. If the talent level is low enough, gear you found in a dumpster qualifies. Only problem - if you start getting better, you have to buy more gear you don't know how to use properly in order to keep the ratio properly out of kilter. That's my excuse, anyway. Not that my talent level will ever be stellar enough to justify a whole lot.
 
It's all about the ratio of talent to gear. If the talent level is low enough, gear you found in a dumpster qualifies. Only problem - if you start getting better, you have to buy more gear you don't know how to use properly in order to keep the ratio properly out of kilter. That's my excuse, anyway. Not that my talent level will ever be stellar enough to justify a whole lot.
But don't forget that the correct number of Thunderbirds is n+1
 
I never liked the dot inlays on the fretboard. If you could have any style, what would you have? I'd choose the trapezoids or none at all.

I'll take dots over none. But I do like trapezoids and sharkteeth. I also like rosewood much more than maple.

All depends on the bass. I LOVE the sharkteeth/sharkfin but don't think they'd look good on a Bird. I also love the trapezoids, they'd look badass on a vintage bird that has chrome. Another cool inlay is the offset dots on modern style basses like the Ibanez BTB higher end versions.

Ebony fretboard over anything else for me.
 
All depends on the bass. I LOVE the sharkteeth/sharkfin but don't think they'd look good on a Bird. I also love the trapezoids, they'd look badass on a vintage bird that has chrome. Another cool inlay is the offset dots on modern style basses like the Ibanez BTB higher end versions.

Ebony fretboard over anything else for me.

I think a `bird with shark teeth would look cool. Some pages back, I think there was a bastard bird that had shark teeth (and Ric pickups if memory serves).
 
I suspect that there is little genetics in musical (and some other, but not all) talents. Music is greatly influenced by nurture; if you are exposed early in life and have influences (family and friends of family) that take music seriously and impart that knowledge, it can stimulate the interest and result in sufficient drive to practice enough to develop some skills. As well, music is like a language, and early exposure creates a facility that will not be seen in others that do not share that exposure. That is a brain development issue much more than a genetic issue.

Conversely, there are people that are not well positioned to do things - essentially an antitalent - this includes languages, mathematics, and music. For those people, learning these things will be a struggle. With determination and time, they can develop a facility, but it will never be as easy. These are people that are tone deaf and non-numerate. This could also be a result of nurture, but that is less clear.

Sorry, you hit a hot button for me. I work in science and so am very precise in the way I use words like genetic, clone, etc. because those words have very specific meanings. I recognize that in colloquial conversation those words are used differently but that doesn't make it right :).
There was always music in the house, starting from before our son was born. He was listening to Duke Ellington from the beginning. He had no way to avoid it! And, my wife loves to sing to herself when she does all kinds of things. She's off key, but she's singing. I wasn't playing much when he was little, but there was usually music from records or the radio. We would listen to music and read instead of watching TV. Sometimes being a little odd pays off.
 
All depends on the bass. I LOVE the sharkteeth/sharkfin but don't think they'd look good on a Bird. I also love the trapezoids, they'd look badass on a vintage bird that has chrome. Another cool inlay is the offset dots on modern style basses like the Ibanez BTB higher end versions.

Ebony fretboard over anything else for me.
Whaddya mean "they dont look good on a bird"?.......and whaddya mean bastard?.:(IMG_2038.JPG
 

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