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I've got a G&L book, but don't recall any discussion. Do you know what the thinking was about offering or using Mahogany from that time? Had they stopped by the time you started working there?

I'm fortunate. This is a life-long keeper in every way.
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They were still producing them on order.
IIRC the story behind it that Lloyd told me over lunch one day, the stack of Mahogany got dropped off accidentally at the Fender Ave skunk works BEFORE G&L was yet a thing, along with the Alder that was the actual order by the lumber supplier. Leo was upset because he did NOT get his complete order of the alder. So he got the Hog and got the rest of the order fulfilled without any additional charges. :-).
It sat unused until G&L got ramped up.

Any early Music Man Stingrays that had a Hog body (while EB was contracting production though Dale and Forrest) were from that mistaken “free wood”

When EB / Leo relationship soured it again sat unused. Primarily because the finishing process for the hog differs from alder due to the necessary grain filling which took more time and effort.

Early on shortly after G&L partnership launched, where Leo techically still had a Fender 10 year non compete in effect with CBS, A retailer (I’ve forgotten the name) wanted an exclusive run of Hog instruments.
Leo of course accommodated, with an upcharge. Then at a following NAMM show he brought mahogany examples of an L1000 and a Broadcaster. It generated such interest that it became a “secret menu “ item for dealers.

So since it was special order, Hog was still in the lumber room until I left shortly before Leo’s debilitating stroke.
 
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They were still producing them on order.
IIRC the story behind it that Lloyd told me over lunch one day, the stack of Mahogany got dropped off accidentally at the Fender Ave skunk works BEFORE G&L was yet a thing, along with the Alder that was the actual order by the lumber supplier. Leo was upset because he did NOT get his complete order of the alder. So he got the Hog and got the rest of the order fulfilled without any additional charges. :-).
It sat unused until G&L got ramped up.

Any early Music Man Stingrays that had a Hog body (while EB was contracting production though Dale and Forrest) were from that mistaken “free wood”

When EB / Leo relationship soured it again sat unused. Primarily because the finishing process for the hog differs from alder due to the necessary grain filling which took more time and effort.

Early on shortly after G&L partnership launched, where Leo techically still had a Fender 10 year non compete in effect with CBS, A retailer (I’ve forgotten the name) wanted an exclusive run of Hog instruments.
Leo of course accommodated, with an upcharge. Then at the following NAMM show he brought an example of an L1000 and a Broadcaster. It generated such interest that it became a “secret menu “ item for dealers.

So since it was special order, Hog was still in the lumber room until I left shortly before Leo’s debilitating stroke.
Thanks for the interesting and cool backstory, Ray. You see them, but who knew the wood was from back in the Fender days.
 
Thanks for the interesting and cool backstory, Ray. You see them, but who knew the wood was from back in the Fender days.
Not Fender, Fender avenue the original second fender factory, where Leo kept a space (post CBS pre EB contract production ) George and Leo started Music Man amplifiers.
 
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yep....someone told me Gretsch's wood stock in 79 (year of bass on left) was over 30 years old which would make it about 75 years old today....that paired with state of the art Bart pups and pre makes it one serious piece of kit......some serious air moving hardware right there....
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yep....someone told me Gretsch's wood stock in 79 (year of bass on left) was over 30 years old which would make it about 75 years old today....that paired with state of the art Bart pups and pre makes it one serious piece of kit......some serious air moving hardware right there....
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The one on the right is making me moister than an oyster :drool:
 
Happy Thursday my Thunderbird loving sisters and brothers. I hope everyone is having a good week. I am enjoying an Old Fashioned, maybe 2, before going with a close friend to see Jack Casady and Jorma K in a cool old theater. Looking forward to another Old Fashioned and some good music. Have a great evening folks.
Looks refreshing my friend. Go on over and participate in this thread for a bit.
 
Happy Thursday my Thunderbird loving sisters and brothers. I hope everyone is having a good week. I am enjoying an Old Fashioned, maybe 2, before going with a close friend to see Jack Casady and Jorma K in a cool old theater. Looking forward to another Old Fashioned and some good music. Have a great evening folks.
Jelly.
 
Some on here use gig bags and can probably help. What make and model Thunderbird?
Mine is an Epiphone 60's...or thats what GC told me.
The Epi s/n lookup says its a '22 made in Indonesia.
It did not come with a case and I prefer to use gig bags for the schlepability factor. SO:
I need a gig bag asap. Anyone have a recommendation?
How about pickups? Are there any recommended replacement pups? I haven't taken it on a gig yet,.. IDK how these pups will work out...so this is an info only request for now...
 

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Mine is an Epiphone 60's. It did not come with a case and I prefer to use gig bags for the schlepability factor.
I’m not into gig bags, but others here are and should have suggestions. There are some here who have the bag that came with the newer 64’s, but don’t use it. Maybe you can make a deal with someone for one?