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Thunderbird Club

Yeah, I don’t get it…

If it belonged to Geddy or JPJ, then maybe?
He should have someone else sell it for him. Selling it himself, he just comes off as arrogant. I don’t know him, he could be a nice guy. Decent band, he played with them for about a year. Like twenty five years ago. Him owning it doesn’t do a thing to increase the value of it. It’s a nice Thunderbird in a cool color. $2300 tops.

Now if Nikki were selling her ‘18 Cherry Thunderbird, I’d pay extra for that one.
 
seems like broken headstocks are more prevalent in 60's than 70's Birds.....misconception?...,
Several reasons no doubt, but don't think design or build is much part of the equation. But one is the 60s have just been around longer and had more time to get broken. Maybe like 60s LPs may have more broken HS than 70s. But that may not hold given numbers of LPs likely ramped way up in the 70s.... 70 LPs may actually have more in terms of numbers, but still fewer in percentage. With about 2x as many 70s Thunderbirds (I think), there may be more numbers of broken, but still fewer in percentage. That and by then word was out and headstocks falling off by then.

Edit: V's thought on guitar stands has to be a huge factor as well--if not the most common. Back then how did you safely lean a Thunderbird against an amp? There was and still is no way. Fenders, or even LPs no real problem, though not a good idea.
 
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He should have someone else sell it for him. Selling it himself, he just comes off as arrogant. I don’t know him, he could be a nice guy. Decent band, he played with them for about a year. Like twenty five years ago. Him owning it doesn’t do a thing to increase the value of it. It’s a nice Thunderbird in a cool color. $2300 tops.

Now if Nikki were selling her ‘18 Cherry Thunderbird, I’d pay extra for that one.
Nikki would definitely increase the value for sure, but I can't even her owning it inflating it that much.
 
He should have someone else sell it for him. Selling it himself, he just comes off as arrogant. I don’t know him, he could be a nice guy. Decent band, he played with them for about a year. Like twenty five years ago. Him owning it doesn’t do a thing to increase the value of it. It’s a nice Thunderbird in a cool color. $2300 tops.

Now if Nikki were selling her ‘18 Cherry Thunderbird, I’d pay extra for that one.
And if Nikki were selling a blue one, well, all bets are off.
 
Just a thought, I have nothing to back this up except what would seem to be a reasonable explanation. In the '60s there were no guitar stands made that could actually support a Thunderbird and they likely got leaned up against amps etc., fell over and broke themselves. By the '70s you could at least find a stand that would support a Bird, and, there were more made as well. I don't think there's much, if any difference in the size of the neck or headstock and the construction is the same. "76s are shaped a little different in the upper bout but I think that's about it.

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This is my thought as well. Hardly anyone used stands back in the day.
Several reasons no doubt, but don't think design or build is much part of the equation. But one is the 60s have just been around longer and had more time to get broken. Maybe like 60s LPs may have more broken HS than 70s. But that may not hold given numbers of LPs likely ramped way up in the 70s.... 70 LPs may actually have more in terms of numbers, but still fewer in percentage. With about 2x as many 70s Thunderbirds (I think), there may be more numbers of broken, but still fewer in percentage. That and by then word was out and headstocks falling off by then.

Edit: V's thought on guitar stands has to be a huge factor as well--if not the most common. Back then how did you safely lean a Thunderbird against an amp? There was and still is no way. Fenders, or even LPs no real problem, though not a good idea.
I didn’t have a stand for years. I leaned my Mustang that I had against the amp. It took falls. Just never broke.
 
seems like broken headstocks are more prevalent in 60's than 70's Birds.....misconception?...,
Some people have blamed breaks on the way the neck was supported in 60s & 70s cases. A pressure point if the case was dropped, or somethin along those lines. The newer cases design might make this theory seem accurate.
 
thought I had sent you this one also but maybe I didn't...
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Nope... but it gives THIS PIC that you did send a lot more context, lol.
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So depth of carve is about 0.135 at the deepest, inboard of the edge roundover, compared to bottom bout edge. Bit over an 8th.

That's news I can use!

Thanks, will check it later when I'm home.
 
Nope... but it gives THIS PIC that you did send a lot more context, lol.View attachment 7318929

So depth of carve is about 0.135 at the deepest, inboard of the edge roundover, compared to bottom bout edge. Bit over an 8th.

That's news I can use!

Thanks, will check it later when I'm home.
that was the original intention, glad I checked....
 
Quick question for you TBird gurus: would you recommend moving the strap buttons? I’ve seen people make two changes that look interesting: (1) on the bottom/bridge side: moving the button several inches above the body centerline; and (2) moving the button from the back (where a bolt on neck plate would be) to the top/frontfacing edge. Thanks!
 
Several reasons no doubt, but don't think design or build is much part of the equation. But one is the 60s have just been around longer and had more time to get broken. Maybe like 60s LPs may have more broken HS than 70s. But that may not hold given numbers of LPs likely ramped way up in the 70s.... 70 LPs may actually have more in terms of numbers, but still fewer in percentage. With about 2x as many 70s Thunderbirds (I think), there may be more numbers of broken, but still fewer in percentage. That and by then word was out and headstocks falling off by then.

Edit: V's thought on guitar stands has to be a huge factor as well--if not the most common. Back then how did you safely lean a Thunderbird against an amp? There was and still is no way. Fenders, or even LPs no real problem, though not a good idea.
Smart people laid them down in a case. Assuming they had room for that.
 
Quick question for you TBird gurus: would you recommend moving the strap buttons? I’ve seen people make two changes that look interesting: (1) on the bottom/bridge side: moving the button several inches above the body centerline; and (2) moving the button from the back (where a bolt on neck plate would be) to the top/frontfacing edge. Thanks!
Both are good mods for a bird with some dive. The other mod that some here have done is to add a second strap lock on the butt of the bass to help reduce forward flip. I haven’t tried it yet but others have, they could probably post a pic.
 
Quick question for you TBird gurus: would you recommend moving the strap buttons? I’ve seen people make two changes that look interesting: (1) on the bottom/bridge side: moving the button several inches above the body centerline; and (2) moving the button from the back (where a bolt on neck plate would be) to the top/frontfacing edge. Thanks!
I haven't moved the lower button. I have moved the upper button from the bout to the neck (where a plate would be (or is in some cases)). Moving the upper button further from the headstock will tend to cause/increase dive.
 
Quick question for you TBird gurus: would you recommend moving the strap buttons? I’ve seen people make two changes that look interesting: (1) on the bottom/bridge side: moving the button several inches above the body centerline; and (2) moving the button from the back (where a bolt on neck plate would be) to the top/frontfacing edge. Thanks!

I put a flush mount (Dunlop) about the same distance from the bottom pin as the input jack but on the other side.

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Great thing is it’s not really noticeable when no strap attached.
 
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