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Thunderbird Club

Beautiful bass, love that ebony look, does it have a belly cut? don't know why this vintage gets such a bad sonicI wrap, I think they sound great...probably my most gigged Gibby...
Some just resist change. Like the ‘15 when it was released. There were posts on TB that Gibson “ruined” the Thunderbird. It didn’t sound the same as the TBird+ birds that had been around for years when played through an amp set flat.
 
It has a time and a place, sometime it's just nice to play something different, this one is smooth and really easy to get on with. We tried playing Green Day "Time of your Life" recently, the recording has a bowed DB on it, turns out a Mudbucker can cop that pretty well. - Very glad to own it.

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On that we completely agree. To me SS basses have a time and place, specifically on a very cramped stage or when nursing a torn rotator cuff or dealing with arthritis in the left hand. But to my ears they sound different, even with identical pickups, so typically not my first choice, especially in a Tbird where the magic is in the sound.

I have a few short scale (30”) and medium scale (32”) basses. I really like the ones I have and I am beginning to use them more and more for recording. While they don’t sound as good (even to me) on their own side by side with standard scale (34”) basses, I am finding, for some songs, their unique tone (at least mine, all are custom, pickups, bridges etc.) sits in well in the mix with the rest of the tracking. Next finished recording I have I’ll post, we have many in process right now.

My very favorite SS I have is a 1978 Fender MusicMaster bass on a Warmoth “dinky J” body.

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30”, looks cool, super fun to play. Under the blank pickup covers are some Novak MusicMaster pickups, made to fit under the covers. Single pole per string, very ‘51 P-bass like.



My version of a Mustang, 1978 Fender Mustang neck on a Warmoth “dinky P” body with, again, Novak Mustang pickups:

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Again, 30” scale, super fun to play, and both of these have super low action, no buzz, and really sound good.
 
Forgot to mention the brand of pick guard I used for the recent upgrade on my Candy Cola American Standard Fender P-Bass. It was Music Lily which cost me $ 16.62 on Amazon. Having read reviews on fitting American Standards well and that the most recent ones had the relief notch for the trussrod at the base of the neck, I decided to give it a shot despite some mixed reviews. In my case it was a good fit and saved me around 60 dollars. Pricing on eBay for the new Fender part ranged from 74 to 76 dollars-

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The money you saved is for blowing in a Thunderbird.
 
We’re talking about the one at GC, right? It’s a short scale, only 400 made. I don’t think the ad specifically says it but you can tell by the notches in the pickguard to accommodate the pickups. Looks like they don’t know what they have and It’s a great price. When they come up, they are usually going for $2000-$2200 (lately).
I love mine, and will not likely ever part with it. Fun to play.



One of 400 makes it kinda unique. I went further with mine and changed the tuners to nickel Hipshot USA ultralights, put in some vintage style nickel humbuckers, (Gemini UK), a nickel three point and a custom black pickguard from Irv that allowed for the nickel rings, and also polished off the matte finish.

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I picked up one for somebody a while ago. He was on the East Coast and the 'Bird was in Seattle. As I recall, he also polished it. I played it a bit before sending it, to see what it was like. It was easy to play, as you would expect from a SS. It sounded great, too. I already have an EB-2 for when there is a need for a short bass.
 
On that we completely agree. To me SS basses have a time and place, specifically on a very cramped stage or when nursing a torn rotator cuff or dealing with arthritis in the left hand. But to my ears they sound different, even with identical pickups, so typically not my first choice, especially in a Tbird where the magic is in the sound.
Unless it is an EB-2 with a Dimarzio One. Then is its own unique thing.
 
I have a few short scale (30”) and medium scale (32”) basses. I really like the ones I have and I am beginning to use them more and more for recording. While they don’t sound as good (even to me) on their own side by side with standard scale (34”) basses, I am finding, for some songs, their unique tone (at least mine, all are custom, pickups, bridges etc.) sits in well in the mix with the rest of the tracking. Next finished recording I have I’ll post, we have many in process right now.

My very favorite SS I have is a 1978 Fender MusicMaster bass on a Warmoth “dinky J” body.

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30”, looks cool, super fun to play. Under the blank pickup covers are some Novak MusicMaster pickups, made to fit under the covers. Single pole per string, very ‘51 P-bass like.



My version of a Mustang, 1978 Fender Mustang neck on a Warmoth “dinky P” body with, again, Novak Mustang pickups:

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Again, 30” scale, super fun to play, and both of these have super low action, no buzz, and really sound good.

Not to veer too far off thunderbird topic, but do these warmoth dinky bodies have smaller neck pockets than standard? Or did you have to modify them to fit the mustang and musicmaster necks or can they be ordered without neck pocket? Just curious because I love short scale necks but strongly dislike most small body designs ergonomically because of my lanky arms (sg or guild js body being the only exception I've actually liked). I already have a solution to this within the fender realm, but curious for potential future projects. My aforementioned "solution" below (also a 78 musicmaster neck that I'm quite fond of but paired with a custom one-off body)
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Not to veer too far off thunderbird topic, but do these warmoth dinky bodies have smaller neck pockets than standard? Or did you have to modify them to fit the mustang and musicmaster necks or can they be ordered without neck pocket? Just curious because I love short scale necks but strongly dislike most small body designs ergonomically because of my lanky arms (sg or guild js body being the only exception I've actually liked). I already have a solution to this within the fender realm, but curious for potential future projects. My aforementioned "solution" below (also a 78 musicmaster neck that I'm quite fond of but paired with a custom one-off body)
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We welcome diversions!
 
I picked up one for somebody a while ago. He was on the East Coast and the 'Bird was in Seattle. As I recall, he also polished it. I played it a bit before sending it, to see what it was like. It was easy to play, as you would expect from a SS. It sounded great, too. I already have an EB-2 for when there is a need for a short bass.
Everything is better in twos.
 
but do these warmoth dinky bodies have smaller neck pockets than standard? Or did you have to modify them to fit the mustang and musicmaster necks or can they be ordered without neck pocket?

I ordered them with NO neck pocket cut. The standard cut they would do is too wide for these vintage ‘70’s Mustang and MM necks. These were cut and set up by Geoff at SF GuitarWorks. I’m also using Schaller bridges with roller saddles so I can get the strings narrower and they sit nicely between the edges of the neck.

Another note, I believe they (Warmoth) have another smaller version of the P and J bodies, which I didn’t discover until after buying my third “Dinky”. The dinky is exactly the same size as my Fender Japan medium scale Jazz and P’s. My guess is the Warmoth SS is a smidge smaller that the dinky. My perfectionist is a little aggravated that I missed that, but they still look porportioned ok.

I have one last SS Jazz in process. Another 1968 MusicMaster neck going on a Warmoth dinky J. This one will be black, and the neck with have binding and block inlay so it emulates a ‘70’s Fender Jazz. Also will have MusicMaster shaped pickups in the typical neck and bridge positions, with the next being pickguard mount (like a typical MusicMaster), and the bridge being body mount, but MM shaped too. The pickups are custom, unlike the ones under the covers of my green mini Jazz, that have one pole per string, these are more Jazz like with two pole per string.

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…at this point, I forget who I got these from, it’s been probably over a year. He did customize his stock version of these (I think they are typically for a Bronco Bass?) so they would fit in the covers.

This last project has been with Geoff at SFGuitarworks for a long time, I just gave him the neck, body and bridge, and after he cut the neck pocket, he shipped it out for paint. That was over a year ago. When I left it all with him I had said to do it when he had time. He recently contacted me and mentioned he was about to get started with the binding and inlays and that I should have it back from him by end of year. So we’ll see. Looking forward to getting it, and if it is as awesome as my green one, I may try to sell the green one.

With all 3 of of these (2 MusicMasters and the Mustang), the entire original body, pickups, bridge, etc. are stored, so literally the neck can be stuck back on the original body assembly and it’s still an original vintage Fender Mustang or MusicMaster.
 
Ha! I wasn’t thinking quickly enough!

No Andy, @Nocturnal
It was a croc shank !

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Is that better Donnie?
Though Crocs taste like chicken?
Don’t they?
Thank you! It's a little late, but that's a good one.

The scales don't. I've had people tell me it's good. I think I recall having it once on vacation yrs ago.
 

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