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Thunderbird Club

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GBassNorth said:
Hey folks, sorry I didn't mean to start a Neil Young war. In hindsight I should have realized he's a polarizing figure and would cause a fair amount of disagreement. But I just focused on his singing voice - which is intolerable to me (actually his guitar playing is fairly lackluster as well).

His politics along with the politics of the rest of the performing world mean nothing to me as long as long as they don't mix those politics with their art. Once that's done, it's ruined, the music can't be enjoyed for what it is vs what the person behind the voice stands for. It's no longer entertainment, it's a political statement put to music. Not my cup of tea regardless of the political leanings of the "artist" now activist.

I don't turn on the news to listen to music and I sure don't enjoy listening to music that represents an editorial opinion (even if I agree with it). Shut up and sing should be every musical entertainers mantra. Let the news media and political pundits divide us into nice neat little waring factions if you will, but music should transcend all that static and be a healing force bringing us together.

Nuff said, I'm going outside now to burn all my Neil Young and Ted Nugent albums - oh wait, I don't have any, I wonder why?
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I agree whole heartedly with your remarks about politics in music... as well as TV, movies, and really any form of entertainment. It's entertainment! It's intended to give you a place to go, to take your mind OFF of all that s#!t. Nowdays, we get hammered with it everywhere all the time. TBH... I've been disheartened by the increasing frequency with which it's been seeping into our little safe-haven right here. Even seemingly insignificant little one liners & stuff, just kinda wreck it. It's a "poisoning of the well". Feel free to take this with a grain of salt... but if you wanna fight about politics... go to FaceBook. This forum is a rose in a field of weeds. Don't let the weeds grow here... please...

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@Count Bassie , with eloquence and style, made me re-think my position regarding the "politics in music" portion of my posting. I suppose it's so obvious that I overlooked it...everyone does indeed have the right to say (or sing) whatever they want... and we, as listeners, have the ability and right to choose not to listen if we don't like what we're hearing. It's as simple as that. (feelin' kinda stupid right now...)
 
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I hope Neil Young will remember/
A southern man don't need him around anyhow.

Springsteen is a blowhard. Morello brought some new tricks to guitar playing but I can't stand Rage Against All The Wrong Things. I hate the Beatles most of all, and the dumbest thing Chad "Nickelback" Kroeger ever did was call out Cory Taylor at the beginning of Stone Sour'a tour cycle. Talk about having the situational awareness of a rock...
 
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Gaolee said:
It looks like the bridge has been monkeyed with. The stop bar was farther away and is now closer to the bridge. Likewise, I don't like the looks of the screws holding the tune-o-matic part on. If you look at the closeup, you can see three holes in the body where I would assume the stop bar was at one time. There are what appear to be trim ring screw holes around the bridge pickup rout. None of this prove anything except that it's had a whole lot of changes in its life.

It's a mess, for sure. But I like it. I still have no idea whether it's a real Gibson or not. The headstock has been sanded down if it is.
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Yea for some reason it was pulled closer to the bridge, I have since put it back in the original spot and filled the holes. Idk what it is about this bass but even in the condition it's in I've started to love it. I want to get it in the best playable condition I can for now and slowly tweak other things as I go.
 
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Nick ciesielski said:
Yea for some reason it was pulled closer to the bridge, I have since put it back in the original spot and filled the holes. Idk what it is about this bass but even in the condition it's in I've started to love it. I want to get it in the best playable condition I can for now and slowly tweak other things as I go.
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In the condition it is in, you don't have to feel bad about changing it in any way. The more I think about it, the more likely it seems that it really is an old Gibson.
 
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Nick ciesielski said:
Yea for some reason it was pulled closer to the bridge, I have since put it back in the original spot and filled the holes. Idk what it is about this bass but even in the condition it's in I've started to love it. I want to get it in the best playable condition I can for now and slowly tweak other things as I go.
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You probably love it because you're bringing a disaster back to life.
 
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Haji said:
I hate the Beatles most of all,...
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Funny thing is that I play in a band that covers a whole lot of Beatles songs. I'm not much of a Beatles fan these days for that reason, if no other. I'm so tired of playing those songs that I can hardly see straight. I like the other guys, though, so that makes it alright. Paul was a very set bass player. I think that's why I don't like that music so much. He started to improvise just a little on Don't Let Me Down, which makes it my favorite Beatles song to play. The rest are all about the set riff. That's fine for a while. Then it's boring.

I always play the Thunderbird in that band. If anybody objects to a Thunderbird in any situation, then that person is just misguided. Nobody in any audience seems to have ever noticed that Paul didn't play a Thunderbird.
 
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Gaolee said:
In the condition it is in, you don't have to feel bad about changing it in any way. The more I think about it, the more likely it seems that it really is an old Gibson.
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Well on my help thread the consensus seems to be that it's a real Gibson that the whole neck has been changed on instead of just the headstock when it presumably broke many years ago
 
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Gaolee said:
I'm more partial to Mingus. The holy trinity - Ellingon the father, Mingus the son, Monk the holy ghost. I can imagine what would happen if you sang Fables of Fabus to the cats.
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Monk is my model for melody on the bass. Mingus is the blood. Ellington, that's how you work.

kat888 said:
NO one likes Nickleback....
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This, unfortunately, is not true. But love reigns supreme...
 
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@GBassNorth - we'll call this 'cultural criticism' [cough]

It might be possible to separate art from politics if art was like pine cones you found just lying around on the forest floor.

Art is made by human beings however, and comes from lived experience and social being. As the Old Man said 'you may not be interested in the dialectic, but the dialectic is interested in you'.

We now return you to your advertised program...
 
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Gaolee said:
In the condition it is in, you don't have to feel bad about changing it in any way. The more I think about it, the more likely it seems that it really is an old Gibson.
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I had an old EB-0 as a youngster that I brought back. It got a Badass I bridge, a DiMarzio Model One p'up and new tuners, as well as a glued-back-together headstock, brass pick guard ( lol) and a marine varnish refin. Was a sweet bass.

Do it up, play it a lot.
 
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kat888 said:
@GBassNorth - we'll call this 'cultural criticism' [cough]

It might be possible to separate art from politics if art was like pine cones you found just lying around on the forest floor.

Art is made by human beings however, and comes from lived experience and social being. As the Old Man said 'you may not be interested in the dialectic, but the dialectic is interested in you'.

We now return you to your advertised program...
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kat888 said:
@GBassNorth - we'll call this 'cultural criticism' [cough]

It might be possible to separate art from politics if art was like pine cones you found just lying around on the forest floor.

Art is made by human beings however, and comes from lived experience and social being. As the Old Man said 'you may not be interested in the dialectic, but the dialectic is interested in you'.

We now return you to your advertised program...
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You bring forth a valid point. I suppose you're right. The best songs are one's that were written out of personal thoughts, feelings, and experiences. It's fairly easy to see how politics would get wrapped up in there. I suppose the line that shouldn't be crossed, is the one where you stop expressing yourself, and start telling others how they should live, or that they are "wrong".
 
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