Thunderbird Club

[D.M.N.]

Welp, as of today I have passed the 10 year mark on TB. I feel...old...



Edit: I guess actually tomorrow, but I got the notification today, sooo...

 

[GonePlaid]

Welp, as of today I have passed the 10 year mark on TB. I feel...old...



Edit: I guess actually tomorrow, but I got the notification today, sooo...

They wanna give ya time to plan the party. BTW, see the Grumpy Old Farts thread if yer feelin' "olde". Join us, we have prune juice.

 

[Miles_ONeal]

Suuuurrrreee.


And I thought we finished talking about used cars, and now you bring it back up.

Not at all. Didn't you see the queen's used railway car?

 

[TBird1958]

V - very cool!
I'm not very up on train cars, how about some education. So in real life would this type of car be used to haul large tractor tread type vehicles? Would the two ends somehow be positioned as ramps to allow the heavy equipment to drive onto the flatbed? May seem like stupid questions, just an enquiring mind.

The car is one of 4,220 or so built in 1969, by Pullman Standard in Butler, PA. Most of the group were built to haul machinery, as evidenced by the two rails running the length of the cars' center line. About 400 of the total group were modified after they were built with the addition of the large fixed bulkheads like my model has, and the machinery rails were filled in with wood. The modified cars were used to haul pipe and most commonly lumber from the Pacific Northwest to points east - This was huge business for railroads in the '70s, before the "Spotted Owl" decision, it was nothing to have 5 trains of various lumber products leave Oregon every day of the week as eastbound traffic.

 

[JJR58]

The car is one of 4,220 or so built in 1969, by Pullman Standard in Butler, PA. Most of the group were built to haul machinery, as evidenced by the two rails running the length of the cars' center line. About 400 of the total group were modified after they were built with the addition of the large fixed bulkheads like my model has, and the machinery rails were filled in with wood. The modified cars were used to haul pipe and most commonly lumber from the Pacific Northwest to points east - This was huge business for railroads in the '70s, before the "Spotted Owl" decision, it was nothing to have 5 trains of various lumber products leave Oregon every day of the week as eastbound traffic.
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I enlarged the pic because i wanted a closer look at the couplings. Love the attention to detail there V.
I mean, overall your work just has that. But right down to the last little thing.

 

[GBassNorth]

The car is one of 4,220 or so built in 1969, by Pullman Standard in Butler, PA. Most of the group were built to haul machinery, as evidenced by the two rails running the length of the cars' center line. About 400 of the total group were modified after they were built with the addition of the large fixed bulkheads like my model has, and the machinery rails were filled in with wood. The modified cars were used to haul pipe and most commonly lumber from the Pacific Northwest to points east - This was huge business for railroads in the '70s, before the "Spotted Owl" decision, it was nothing to have 5 trains of various lumber products leave Oregon every day of the week as eastbound traffic.
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Excellent! Thx for the info. The floor rails looked like they were purpose built for hauling large equipment or heavy vehicles but the two bulkheads looked fixed in position and that had me confused as to how machinery or heavy vehicles would be loaded. But the lumber explanation makes perfect sense.

I suppose we can dream that at some point one of those cars was loaded with mahogany on its way to the Gibson factory to be converted into Thunderbirds (well, it's just a dream).

So, given your love of the Thunderbird bass, do you have anything on your train layout (regardless of how subtle) that gives a nod to Gibson or Thunderbirds? Could be a figurine of a street performer with a TBird or graffiti on a boxcar that says Kalamazoo, or a freight car from the Nashville area, etc.

 

[PillO]

The bike shop is a front. For some secret underground music works.

Now they have to kill you before you expose the secret...

 

[PillO]

I bet there’s a lot of bells that get rung from the bass!

Ahem.

 

[PillO]

Bells, Vince? This is a very high end road bike shop. Bikes that cost more than a decent used car. Not a lot of bells there

So, not ringing anyone's bell. Got it. Ahem.

 

[PillO]

The car is one of 4,220 or so built in 1969, by Pullman Standard in Butler, PA. Most of the group were built to haul machinery, as evidenced by the two rails running the length of the cars' center line. About 400 of the total group were modified after they were built with the addition of the large fixed bulkheads like my model has, and the machinery rails were filled in with wood. The modified cars were used to haul pipe and most commonly lumber from the Pacific Northwest to points east - This was huge business for railroads in the '70s, before the "Spotted Owl" decision, it was nothing to have 5 trains of various lumber products leave Oregon every day of the week as eastbound traffic.
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You know trains the way some people know wine. I find both to be odd ways to use my limited mental faculties. I have my own odd ways to use my limited faculties and can't spare the resources for additional information.

 

[Miles_ONeal]

I enlarged the pic because i wanted a closer look at the couplings. Love the attention to detail there V.
I mean, overall your work just has that. But right down to the last little thing.

Agreed- gorgeous and amazing! How much time did this take?

 

[Miles_ONeal]

You know trains the way some people know wine. I find both to be odd ways to use my limited mental faculties. I have my own odd ways to use my limited faculties and can't spare the resources for additional information.

So you gonna show us yours since we're showing ours? (AHEM!)
I write. It's fantasy for now (later sci fi, historical detective fiction, etc.) but I do lots of research to keep it real.
Just got my series finale back from the editor for round one. I'll start on it on my way to the Land of the Unicorn tomorrow (a week of work for my employer, then a week of exploration, research, and fun- all the same thing).

 

[TBird1958]

Agreed- gorgeous and amazing! How much time did this take?

Miles, there's about 45 hours into that model, I don't build the vast majority of my rolling stock up like this, I found a good set plans for this particular car and that spurred the model.

 

[Larry V]

Bells, Vince? This is a very high end road bike shop. Bikes that cost more than a decent used car. Not a lot of bells there

Not even this type? I’m kind of surprised TBH. Here in Michigan everyone has one of these for courtesy to others and for our own good.

Letting those were coming up on know we’re coming through accompanies with an, “On your right!”

 

[dukeorock]

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Not even this type? I’m kind of surprised TBH. Here in Michigan everyone has one of these for courtesy to others and for our own good.

Letting those were coming up on know we’re coming through accompanies with an, “On your right!”

Lots of roadies use that type of bell...they just are aftermarket items...no shop is going to put a Parlee or Peggoretti on the showroom floor that way though!

I’m still a “On your left!” kinda guy

 

[Gaolee]

Miles, there's about 45 hours into that model, I don't build the vast majority of my rolling stock up like this, I found a good set plans for this particular car and that spurred the model.

45 hours? I would have guessed more, but then experience makes for faster, more accurate work.

 

[JJR58]

Now they have to kill you before you expose the secret...

“If I ain’t dead already”.....

 

[Gaolee]

Lots of roadies use that type of bell...they just are aftermarket items...no shop is going to put a Parlee or Peggoretti on the showroom floor that way though!

I’m still a “On your left!” kinda guy

So long as you don't yell "hot pizza" and expect people to get out of your way like an idiot out here did. Right before he mowed down some little old lady on a sidewalks. As I recall, he had some injuries of his own, but didn't get much sympathy. Imagine that! He also faced some legal issues. He didn't get a whole lot of sympathy from anybody for that, either. A bell might have been a better idea.

 

[MCF]

You know trains the way some people know wine. I find both to be odd ways to use my limited mental faculties. I have my own odd ways to use my limited faculties and can't spare the resources for additional information.

My brain hurts like a warehouse

You know trains the way some people know wine. I find both to be odd ways to use my limited mental faculties. I have my own odd ways to use my limited faculties and can't spare the resources for additional information.

My brain hurt like a warehouse, it had no room to spare
I had to cram so many things to store everything in there

 

[Larry V]

Lots of roadies use that type of bell...they just are aftermarket items...no shop is going to put a Parlee or Peggoretti on the showroom floor that way though!

I’m still a “On your left!” kinda guy

Hahaha... I guess I should’ve said either of those since I’m a mountain bike guy and not a roadie. I’ll call the pass on whichever side would be easier for both of us going down a trail. On your right, on your left all depends.