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Exactly!

I used to be a bit of a hobbyist with woodworking. I decided one day to make a pair of sub cabs for our band's PA system. They turned out great and they rocked!

Did I take away potential earnings from sub cab manufacturers? I sure did!

Do I care? I sure don't!

Are those businesses still thriving? They sure are!
Well in all fairness you didn't actively reach out to the customers of another local cab builder and tell them you'd do the same job for half the price. I see what you were going for but doesn't seem like apples to apples...
 
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Well in all fairness you didn't actively reach out to the customers of another local cab builder and tell them you'd do the same job for half the price. I see what you were going for but doesn't seem like apples to apples...

Ah! Very good! That's a good point, and I agree with you! :thumbsup:

Of course, I had zero interest in becoming a cab builder for others, but let's just say for a fictitious moment that I *DID* have that interest, and that I *DID* offer to build cabs at half the going rate, and some of those customers *DID* decide to go with my services rather than the services of other established cab makers. My response to that would be twofold:

1) I didn't force anyone to do anything. Those customers that switched over to my services made that choice for themselves.

2) Those other cab makers just learned a good lesson (the hard way) in free enterprise. A good wake up call, eh? If they want to earn back the business that they lost, they have to up their game and do a better job of providing what the public wants compared to what I would provide the public. That's just how it goes. Welcome to life on planet Earth.

Applying paragraph #2 above to bands, if a particular band feels that they are missing out on potential music money because other bands are playing for less or for free, that band has to up their game if they want some of the pie. They have to "out perform" those other bands. The musicianship and performance has to be on a higher level in order to attract the gigs. And if that band really is that good, then that band will indeed attract the gigs, especially the well-paying gigs. It's all about public appeal. And it's up to the band to earn that public appeal. If that doesn't happen, then that means the public doesn't find that band appealing. That's the band's fault, not the fault of other bands who play for less or for free.
 
I’ll judge your commercial work when I see it. Please share your website and virtual portfolio.
You asked for it. I'm not positive, but I may be the world's preeminent portable toilet photographer. I have no reason to believe otherwise, until I see some potty pics from Clay Blackmore. Or Patty Daniels. Or Morris Wolf. Or Andrew Marcus in NYC.
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I think you may have missed the intended sarcasm of my initial post.
 
You asked for it. I'm not positive, but I may be the world's preeminent portable toilet photographer. I have no reason to believe otherwise, until I see some potty pics from Clay Blackmore. Or Patty Daniels. Or Morris Wolf. Or Andrew Marcus in NYC.
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I think you may have missed the intended sarcasm of my initial post.

Absolutely missed it. Have to change the battery in my sarcasm detector. Sorry I was offensive.

I’ve heard that argument for real, though.
 
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You asked for it. I'm not positive, but I may be the world's preeminent portable toilet photographer. I have no reason to believe otherwise, until I see some potty pics from Clay Blackmore. Or Patty Daniels. Or Morris Wolf. Or Andrew Marcus in NYC.
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Oh yes.......I like how you approached your subject. Good angle. Provocative lighting. Just the right amount of lid opening. A definite winner for the next cover of Toilet Today Magazine! :thumbsup:
 
You speak of freedom, then why are some here trying to restrict the freedom of others who wish to play under whatever pay or non-pay circumstances they choose?
I seriously doubt that anyone is trying to restrict the right to choose. It is called the music business. And is it criminal to consider a different perspective? Sometimes disagreements can lead to enlightenment.
 
You called me out for being wrong and you claimed that there are professional photographers complaining about losing work. Nowhere in your rebuttal did you give examples of professional photographers complaining about losing work. You only gave examples of people that you know lamenting their bad choices.

they're having work taken away by amateurs. it used to be EVERY wedding i knew hired a wedding photographer - every single one. when i went to a wedding, there was a pro with 2 full frame cameras around their necks and sometimes a third for video. now one out of two weddings i go to or am invited to has a relative or friend do the photography or hand out cameras to the crowd.

and there are some photographers talking about it - here's one, a respected guy who's often sourced on dpreview:

Wedding Photography is Dead

and yeah, some are talking about it one way or another

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