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Too Many Knobs vs. Not Enough Knobs

Why is it that when someone posts an active bass that there frequently tends to be an individual or individuals who find it necessary to post a statement like, “too many knobs for me.”? I don’t believe that I’ve ever seen anyone make a statement after a person posts a P bass saying, “Not enough knobs for me.”.
Well as an owner a primarily playing PBs for almost a half of century, well before the advent of active basses, I’ve found mastering the tonal adjustment on an amp works very well in crating sounds I need. As for too many knobs, not that players don’t find them useful in pursuit of their art, have you seen some of the pics of pedal boards that pop up around these parts?

More to the point, there is a sub set of players that would rather their time be spent playing than fine tuning their tone, and that is OK in my book.

To each their own.
 
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Well as an owner a primarily playing PBs for almost a half of century, well before the advent of active basses, I’ve found mastering the tonal adjustment on an amp works very well in crating sounds I need. As for too many knobs, not that players don’t find them useful in pursuit of their art, have you seen some of the pics of pedal boards that pop up around these parts?

More to the point, there is a sub set of players that would rather their time be spent playing than fine tuning their tone, and that is OK in my book.

To each their own.

I totally get where you’re coming from and the last sentence of your post is really the point that needs to be made.
 
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The world has spent a lot of time and effort reminding me recently that there are far too many knobs in it.

Most of them not on basses.

Two knobs good.
Two knobs with three switches better.
Three knobs betterer.
Five knobs more betterer.
 
Why is it that when someone posts an active bass that there frequently tends to be an individual or individuals who find it necessary to post a statement like, “too many knobs for me.”? I don’t believe that I’ve ever seen anyone make a statement after a person posts a P bass saying, “Not enough knobs for me.”.
Joe Dart basses have 1 too few knobs for me. Why did MusicMan delete a tone knob on these otherwise cool basses?
P.S. the original G&L SB-2 had no tone knob either.
 
My perfect bass gets the sound I want without touching any knobs at all. Same with my amp. Sounding great with everything at 12 o'clock is the right amp for me.

On most gigs I only use the master volume on the amp.

I use a similar methodology but I also familiarize myself with the controls on my amps & instruments so that I have the ability to make the necessary adjustments if needed. And, if I’m using an active bass I can normally make those adjustments from the onboard preamp without too much trouble.

Agree with you both. A good amp sounds great as a baseline, and is then tweakable from there. If you have to "make" it sound good, it's not a good amp.
 
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I wouldn’t post a comment like that when someone is sharing images of their bass, especially in a NBD thread or something. If you don’t have anything nice to say, then don’t say anything at all.

But when there is a discussion on active v passive, I don’t frame it as “too many knobs,” I put it more like “needlessly complicated.” But I also fully admit it’s only MY preference because I’m a classic paralysis-by-analysis type. When I’ve gigged with an active bass, I spend all night tweaking the EQ, not enjoying myself or being in the moment.

I’m like those stories about newer pilots learning to fly by instruments, flying through clouds, checking and adjusting, checking and adjusting, and then emerging from the cloud bank completely upside down.
 
Love basses like this, providing a clear drilling canvas for desired knobs and switches in exact preferred places.
I like the way you think. When a luthier friend gave me a new bass a few years ago I specifically requested that he not drill any control or jack holes.
 
Great points but in the discussions that I’m referring to, the “too many knobs for me” response isn’t really relevant to the topic. It seems to be more of an attitude of the responder of an attempt to slight someone or imply that they are somehow better than the person who has more. I used the following example in an attempt to explain.

A person acquires a new bass or has one that they feel really good about. A picture of the instrument is shared along with some commentary related to how they feel about their instrument. They don’t suggest that anyone needs to make a similar acquisition. They’re simply pleased with their bass.

Inevitably someone, and often multiple individuals, will post the knobs statement. Why can’t they just let the person who is happy with their bass live? Now, if someone had suggested that someone needed to add that type of bass I could better understand the response. Personally, I would just avoid saying anything if it wasn’t my preference unless I was asked for my thoughts directly.
Got it.
In your example... I think people respond like that for a couple reasons:

Number one, because they are angry, depressed, bitter, resentful, or maybe they are just "that kind of person." (we can get into a huge discussion about why people are like that... but that's a big can of worms).
When you feel that way inside, someone else's happiness or success is often a reminder of your unhappiness, failure, or lack of success. Rather than reflect on your own feelings (I have 6 basses, why don't I feel happy like the OP?), people lash out in anger.

When people post stuff like: "too many knobs," I think what they are really saying is "I feel unhappy with my own choices, and rather than taking time for introspection and reflection on my own feeling, I'm just going to lash out to try to make someone else feel bad."
When you are miserable, you incorrectly think that you will feel better if everyone is miserable with you.
-- Get down in the hole with me, then my feelings are validated - I'm unhappy, but so is everyone else, so this is normal.

Number two, which relates back to my first post, is that people respond with the "too many knobs" type comments because they don't have the thinking and language to express themselves any other way.
As I said, I am a HS teacher. When I ask my 14yo students a question: "what is better, this or that." All of them can answer "this" or "that",,,, but when you ask them WHY, many can't do it. "That is better than this because _________ ."
That type of response requires deep thinking, organizing my thoughts, putting my thoughts into language, and then making sure that language is accessible to others. Some people never got the skills (formally or informally) to actually have a conversation, which is not actually an easy task.

And, a whole lot of people were never taught - "if you can't say something nice, then don't say anything at all."
 
I wouldn’t post a comment like that when someone is sharing images of their bass, especially in a NBD thread or something. If you don’t have anything nice to say, then don’t say anything at all.

The fact that I saw multiple people repetitively do exactly that on a NBD thread on another platform is what prompted me to post this thread. If it’s your bass and you’re happy with it, I’m happy for you! Now, if you suggest a bass to me I may very well express my thoughts regarding how I feel that it suits me…
 
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The fact that I saw multiple people repetitively do exactly that on a NBD thread on another platform is what prompted me to post this thread. If it’s your bass and you’re happy with it, I’m happy for you! Now, if you suggest a bass to me I may very well express my thoughts regarding how I feel that it suits me…

Well, yeah, assuming that’s a social media channel of some kind, I’ve seen those types of posts too. There’s a reason I choose to focus my bass-related posting and lurking here, where there’s some actual form of community and semblance of respect. Social media sites have become poisonous cesspools.
 
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Well, yeah, assuming that’s a social media channel of some kind, I’ve seen those types of posts too. There’s a reason I choose to focus my bass-related posting and lurking here, where there’s some actual form of community and semblance of respect. Social media sites have become poisonous cesspools.

It happens here as well. And, I can remember times in the past when it was more prevalent. I sort of backed off post in here for a number of years because of some of the vitriol. Just my opinion…
 
It happens here as well. And, I can remember times in the past when it was more prevalent. I sort of backed off post in here for a number of years because of some of the vitriol. Just my opinion…

Eh, people are jerks, the internet just makes them more visible. Plenty of good people here too, some of whom I’ve even met in meatspace.

I also like this place because of the old school linear message board format. I like deciding what content I see, not leaving it up to hyperviralization algorithms and whatever else drives revenue.