Was there any good punk rock?

[Grinderman]

The Minutemen were on The Blasting Concept with Würm, who wrote (I think) the punkest song of all times.

Time for Redd Kross

 

[5StringBlues]

The Minutemen were on The Blasting Concept with Würm, who wrote (I think) the punkest song of all times.

And named themselves after part of a YES song?

 

[bolophonic]

 

[James Collins]

The Clash is my favorite.

 

[Grinderman]

Some other Ray Washam things.

 

[DJ Bebop]

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[Green Hornet]

Social Distortion...whether or not they are really punk, I don't know but they are in the Punk Section at Streetlight Records

 

[foal30]

I’m a big fan of numerous bands who were influenced by Punk

 

[FryFunk]

Lots of great suggestions here. I find it fascinating and helpful to locate the punk movement within its historical context- a populist reaction to the elitist/self-masturbatory show that rock music had become in the mid 70s, along with economic and social turmoil in the UK.

This gets said, but you have to ask yourself how true it actually is.

Personally I believe punk killed rock music.

I don't mean in some abstract way either, I mean it quite directly told the labels, you could promote people who couldn't sing in key, play on time, or be all that much more original than 1 6 4 5.

If rock made it to the MTV era without punk, I think rock music today would still be alive.

 

[Green Hornet]

Can't get the link to work...
But check out: "Best Punk Rock Compilation' by 'D.J. BILLIE-B' on Youtube.

 

[maxschrek]

 

[Cadillac_Mike]

Some of it is cool but it's never really been my cup of tea TBH... Like "look at me I can fast-pick 3 power chords on a cheap guitar in my parents' garage; how come nobody appreciates progressions that have been done 30yrs prior I'm a cute gurl lol!?"

 

[Durham52]

Tom Robinson Band, one of the most underrated bands to come out of the punk movement. Rebellious and clever lyrics, social comment, anger and some punchy music The messages as true now as in 1979.
*Warning, if the racist, homophobic and similar words that were in common usage in 1979 offend, move along now.

 

[Evanforbass]

This gets said, but you have to ask yourself how true it actually is.

Personally I believe punk killed rock music.

I don't mean in some abstract way either, I mean it quite directly told the labels, you could promote people who couldn't sing in key, play on time, or be all that much more original than 1 6 4 5.

If rock made it to the MTV era without punk, I think rock music today would still be alive.

Were there not amazing non-punk rock bands throughout the MTV era?

I get it. I do appreciate the masterminds of hard rock prog rock etc and all the rock musicians who are technically and compositionally prolific. Pino is far and away my fav bass player—but I love me some Paul Simonon. I also think many branches of the punk constellation are bastardizations and/or commodifications of the original movement(s). Honestly I think your complaint about the swaying of record labels proves the point of a populist sound that was more accessible than the technicality or virtuosity of much of 70s rock. It might be more interesting for you to dig into why punk was so massively appealing to young people in 77-81ish rather than decry the waves it created in the corporate halls

 

[bluearcade71]

Best hardcore punk band, ever. Listened to a lot of this in my mid/late 80's skateboarding days.

 

[FryFunk]

Were there not amazing non-punk rock bands throughout the MTV era?

I get it. I do appreciate the masterminds of hard rock prog rock etc and all the rock musicians who are technically and compositionally prolific.

It's not about being technically proficient.

You don't need to be a ferrari driver to love cars.

But when a manufacturer creates a product line with no quality controls, don't be shocked people lose interest in driving.

Punk rock was the equivalent of flooding the used car markets with lemons.

Pino is far and away my fav bass player—but I love me some Paul Simonon. I also think many branches of the punk constellation are bastardizations and/or commodifications of the original movement(s). Honestly I think your complaint about the swaying of record labels proves the point of a populist sound that was more accessible than the technicality or virtuosity of much of 70s rock.

It has nothing to do with the need to support prog. It's the absurdity of allowing the industry to degrade to people who literally couldn't play their instruments.

Not being a super car, doesn't mean you need to be a suicide wagon.

It might be more interesting for you to dig into why punk was so massively appealing to young people in 77-81ish rather than decry the waves it created in the corporate halls

I was into punk as a kid, it's not a shock why it became so popular, it has a low cost of entry. Literally anyone can be a punk rock musician in 6 weeks.

It's not a question why a 15 year would want to drive a sucide wagon with no muffler.

The question is why on earth would someone be driving a suicide wagon at 35.

Punk because a genre that more or less poisoned people on music.

Punk was hostile to the idea music could be any kind of a meritocracy, instead it became about fashion/anti merit.

 

[bluearcade71]

Everything changes. Music, like life, evolves. Whether punk rock was a good thing or a bad thing, who knows. I enjoyed a lot of punk rock bands. But, now that I am older, I can't relate to all that youth angst. LOL. It sounds very dated, too. Personally, I feel punk rock didn't age well. But, hey, what do I know?

 

[truand85]

Still beats Bon Jovi.

Amen to that.

 

[Michedelic]

This gets said, but you have to ask yourself how true it actually is.

Personally I believe punk killed rock music.

I don't mean in some abstract way either, I mean it quite directly told the labels, you could promote people who couldn't sing in key, play on time, or be all that much more original than 1 6 4 5.

If rock made it to the MTV era without punk, I think rock music today would still be alive.

You really fall for that cliche of ‘punk rock’ ineptness, don’t you? Punk/New Wave/whatever else saved rock from the mediocrity that was going on at the time, at least for some of us. The labels actually ignored it for the most part, because the people running them had too much money tied up in bombastic arena rockers, and didn’t understand the new culture anyway, and were afraid of losing control. It was a grassroots movement, with roots in music dating back to the 60’s, even the 50’s, where the people involved took control themselves, finding the clubs, putting out their own records, setting up their own tours, publishing their own fanzines, and not waiting for corporate tastemakers to tell them what to listen to. That negative criteria you mentioned? That could be used to describe plenty of one hit wonder garage bands of the mid-60’s, or maybe even The Stones. If ‘rock’ has died, it’s from old age. MTV itself killed music in the grand scheme of things.

 

[HolmeBass]

I have no recollection of that but no matter, they are/were entitled to if they did, obviously. Minutemen is punk to me.

Broadly, arguments about what isn't punk are tedious and more often than not flawed, IMO.

It’s not an argument, it’s a simple statement of truth.

Why don’t you watch “We Jam Econo” and then get back to us on this?