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Was there any good punk rock?
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I love how TB seems more conservative than other music websites/message boards, but when you question punk rock's value people come out of the wood work to defend it. Aside from that I really think this thread needs to be closed lol.
Monty Python was prog. The Young Ones were punk.
Did you feel that way at 13?
EDIT: I should have said as a teenager.
I wasn't into punk but I can understand yelling at parents.
Maybe yours weren't as screwed up as some of ours.
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No offence taken. Knew I wasn't the only one.
Too be fair, Mr Newman running his outrage through his biting sense of humour probably is what allows (allowed?) him to sing directly to the people he's upset with. Case is easily made that PR is like Young people shouting at clouds far as social issues go.
Why can't I like beating on a brat in the summer breeze because my mom won't give me a Pepsi?!?
Yup.. and they were a product of the postpunk movement, huge Joy Division fans. War straddles that line between postpunk energy and grander stadium rock
Most memorable show I have ever been to was a punk show
Place erupted as soon as the boils hit the first note. The energy was insane.
Place erupted as soon as the boils hit the first note. The energy was insane.
My thoughts on Costello are purely based on the "three chord" idea.
To me, the sophistication of some of his chords is what separates him in my mind
I was never into rebel music and being against the system. However, We did play a few Clash and Ramones songs in the Mid 1980's with a college cover band I was in. If it sounds good it is good regardless of style or genre.
Lots of great suggestions here. I find it fascinating and helpful to locate the punk movement within its historical context- a populist reaction to the elitist/self-masturbatory show that rock music had become in the mid 70s, along with economic and social turmoil in the UK. Read a Wikipedia article on the rise of the punk movement, and enjoy listening through at least first wave notable releases- Ramones, Sex Pistols, Clash, Wire, Damned, Buzzcocks. The Clash’s first album holds up as a premier example of punk social/political conscience, great song writing, and classic punk energy
I was into fusion and better disco, funk, and soul machine grooves back at that point.
To me punk bands were The Police, the Talking Heads, that's all I can remember until Missing Persons and some of those 80's pop bands which was different and Pop'ish.
To me punk bands were The Police, the Talking Heads, that's all I can remember until Missing Persons and some of those 80's pop bands which was different and Pop'ish.
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Bad Religion, Descendents, and a bunch of other punk bands over the years have had serious musical talent.
One of the most in demand session drummers in the world, Josh Freese, got his start playing for The Vandals.
The objective answer to your question is yes: there were indeed good punk bands.
Whether you or anyone else subjectively enjoyed the music they made is an entirely different question.
I have seen a LOT of shows that have bordered on unhinged, but I never had any desire to see GG Allin. I can not deny that the man accomplished exactly what he set out to do and it has validity as a lifelong piece of art. But I never understood the appeal. A buddy of mine went to go see him in West Virginia in 1987 and got hit in the face with poop.
My favorite memories from the punk years were hangin' out on 48th st in NYC in the old guitar shops and seeing the Ramones shopping and laughing just like me and my high school buddies, guitar geeks one and all passing around the same instruments with no judgement.....
Fair point. Although a section of punk was fairly melodic, IIRC. I do remember using any old major chords to get notes for hooks. Interestingly, worked with a keyboardist who could be quite pedantic about cadences. Which gave some odd chord choices a sense of direction. But sophistication would be way too strong a word for that band.
I think too much from a strictly musical standpoint at times
And certainly many punks played more than basic chords.
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