Was there any good punk rock?

[Grinderman]

Here's some comedy gold for you.

What was the price of entry for you? Was that a price from 1976 price or 2022?

 

[monkeyfinger]

Well I have to hand it to them @FryFunk and @Grinderman are the most punk posters here. They are proof that punk is alive and well.

 

[Grinderman]

Well I have to hand it to them @FryFunk and @Grinderman are the most punk posters here. They are proof that punk is alive and well.

Don't move the goal posts.

 

[Grinderman]

It's time for more trashy music.

 

[factory presets]

Or maybe there are multiple goal posts, and you think pointing to the many are "gotcha moments".

There's endless ways the quantify the decline of rock music.

Album sales, average age of listeners, average age of touring bands, number of venues playing the music etc.

It's an exstensive list.

Yeah but it's not because of punk. Gangsta rap and acid house took out a fair old chunk of audience for a number of years after rock got it's equalibrium back in the post punk wash up.

Beyond that, there are so many other forms of entertainment for rock to compete with.

But most of all, rock has splintered into a million subgenres that all think they are the keepers of the one true faith. The days when everyone loved the Beatles and the Stones are long gone and are not coming back. It had started before punk and accelerated after it. Music is no longer an identifier for a world wide youth movement.

That parrot is dead. It is no more.

 

[FryFunk]

You've yet to provide any material evidence or metrics to back (quantify) your assertion that "poisonous" punk rock is the cause or even part of the cause; your first assertion.

You've got yourself hopeless ensnared in your own multiple goal nets.

Alright I can work with this, you agree rock is dying? Year after year by objective measure?

The death of rock objective, and well demonstrated.

I said punk was part of the problem not exclusively the problem.

But it's hard to overestimate it's affect, especially in connection to college rock/grunge/pop punk/numetal.

 

[Grinderman]

 

[factory presets]

Banned in my pirate country. But thanks for trying.

 

[zubrycky]

"They called us walking corpses
Unholy living dead
They had to lock us up
Put us in their British hell".

 

[zubrycky]

Next Up: Someone argues that punk rock is the cause of the decline of eight-track tapes, Betamax, Blockbuster Video, movie theater box office receipts, satellite and cable TV subscriptions, and FM music radio broadcasting.

And why not? Punk rock is the root of all evil...

 

[Grinderman]

Alright I can work with this, you agree rock is dying? Year after year by objective measure?

The death of rock objective, and well demonstrated.

I said punk was part of the problem not exclusively the problem.

But it's hard to overestimate it's affect, especially in connection to college rock/grunge/pop punk/numetal.

False, you said it was the problem, the cause, until you moved your goal posts.

I've got news for you, we're all dying. It's not a problem, it's just how it is, and punk rock or any other genre of music has zilch to do with it.

Feel free to prove causation, beyond your claim of correlation, in what you've been claiming here from the beginning, or don't. I'm only here for the entertainment value.

Perhaps that's a clever wrinkle in your performance art; to kill this thread. Deep.

 

[zubrycky]

Well, Bach, Mozart, Vivaldi, Palestrina and Beethoven died many years ago and classical music still lives...

 

[Grinderman]

Funk might be the ghost of Malcom.

 

[ardgedee]

Well, Bach, Mozart, Vivaldi, Palestrina and Beethoven died many years ago and classical music still lives...

 

[Grinderman]

 

[Grinderman]

 

[monkeyfinger]

Don't move the goal posts.

And yet you continue to prove my point.

 

[Grinderman]

And yet you continue to prove my point.

 

[Grinderman]

 

[prowla]

Next Up: Someone argues that punk rock is the cause of the decline of eight-track tapes, Betamax, Blockbuster Video, movie theater box office receipts, satellite and cable TV subscriptions, and FM music radio broadcasting.

Most of those were fads too.